Perhaps another reason we are where we are:

White House Blocked C.D.C. From Requiring Masks on Public Transportation

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/health/coronavirus-covid-masks-cdc.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Interesting:

https://gizmodo.com/covid-19-can-live-on-smartphone-screens-for-up-to-28-da-1845346747

Is it at all Possible that your information is coming from Newscorp, with its 142 Newspaper, TV, Sports, and Dominance over AU news?

We have learned here how much of a feedback loop this has here with our govt leaders.
Giuliani, campaigning yesterday, states, "People dont die, of this disease anymore"

My friends in AU and I have gone back and forth, using immediately new news stories, to share how the politics of media come into play. All views.

Our National Debt is a huge Problem. It is estimated, and only an estimate, that US debt has doubled in 4 years.
Its like celebrating the great new TV on the credit card, until the Bill comes in the mail.
In this light, small things, for me, to share.
Notice received yesterday, that my Homeowners insurance is cancelled. Company pulling out because of Hurricanes, and Rash of Roof and other Fraud.
Received my Health Insurance Renewal....OMG! Wait till you see the rates for next year!

I still cant believe we have a Mask vs herd debate. Or that in all this time, so little care and respect for healthcare workers,
and whatever decisions come from the top, show so little concern for them.
Its like, Herd Immunity is great. Either we ignore the sick, or accept the possibility of health care collapse.

Its going to get crazier, I believe.....I see shortages of Adult Flu Vaccine around me....2 out of 8 locations had them, and were running out....

Or How long to Vaccinate 150 Million? Well for some, the 150 Million registered voters are expected to show up in person and all vote in one day. I guess they believe this is possible, so maybe we can share it will take one day or a little more, to vaccinate the whole country, if we can all vote in one day.

We simply still dont know....What percentage of people recovered will be reinfected?
Will this change in a year? What about animals? We lost 10,000 Mink in farms recently.....Any other possible issues, with mutation? Livestock?
We dont know. Im aware of Pediatric studies that are checking Pregnancy issues, with Covid, Miscarriages, as well as any developmental issues we dont know yet.
I see a flat line in China, and a soaring line here.....Perhaps, we have been led down a path that is right, or very wrong.
But "inbetween" seems to be the biggest problem forward.

For my Pinball and Personal friends in AU. Ive been around the Block with dialogue and News on Wildfires/Climate Change,
The Virus, and Minorities (US issues vs Aboriginals). So much of the differences, are media controlled.
Controversies, create viewership, which equals $$$.

I need the days of Walter Cronkite.

Is it Official? Our best plan?

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-embraces-herd-immunity-in-wake-of-his-recovery-from-covid-19-200322727.html

https://gizmodo.com/more-than-1-000-cdc-officials-ask-why-bench-the-cdc-du-1845402712

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It can be a long discussion as to what the National debt was at the end of 2016. From 12.5 Trillion to 18 Trillion.
By the end of 2020. We will be at 22 trillion to 25 Trillion.
This does not include Care Act Loans, to my knowledge, as no numbers have been released, or how much will get paid back.
Estimates are 3 to 6 Trillion given out, as Forbes reports increased wealth during the Pandemic, of 3 Trillion.
Regardless, we have an official 6 Trillion listed in 4 years. and we both agree about printing more money. We should be very concerned about inflation, or even hyperinflation happening, with a debated unemployment number, along a GDP drop of over 30%, all resulting in a very uneven
recovery, and a huge bill to be paid.

Rather than a link, read wherever.
Look up the Crimson Contaigen Report, conducted in 2019, and leaked early in Dec. 2019, before the virus hit, but directly related to issues, actions, inaction, and subsequent rhetoric. The discrepancies and hypocrisy is glaring.

So when the first wave hit, there was political blame on Democrat Cities.
The second wave, where we are now is larger, and in other cities, but the blame is the same, or it is "going away" or " just around the corner".
One must understand unless this mutates, or our vaccines do wonders, we will have 3rd, and 4th waves.
We do not know when this will get better as historical pandemics handled without science and medicine...
...herd immunity.....it can be years and even decades.
I try to be a realist, and even an optimist.
But I won't bet on the uncoordinated direction we are in.

What’s the highest income tax bracket ever put in place? In 1944-45, during World War II, couples making more than $200,000 faced an all-time high of 94 percent. Thats 1.7 million, after that, its 94% to pay for a war.
Eisenhower hit 90%
Today, its 37% over $500,000, but the game is to learn how not to pay taxes. Laws, like Real Estate, and Business Laws give windfalls, if you want to play the game.
Heres what changed this summer.

Under the 2017 tax law, owners of these businesses could only deduct up to $500,000 (for a couple filing jointly) to offset losses in their non-business income. The CARES act strips away that $500,000 cap until 2021 and enables taxpayers to file retroactively on losses, as far back as 2013. May 19, 2020

This means Wealthy Business Owners could refile 6 years of Taxes, and get Millions, hundreds of Millions back.

Whats our National Debt Now, $27-$30 Trillion Before Cares Loans?
Whats Unemployenent? Is Forbes right, or are we still using May Numbers, (Aprils Actual)?

Sometimes, we simply should see what others are experiencing.

https://nltimes.nl/2020/10/26/draconian-full-lockdown-covid-infections-dont-fall-govt-will-warn-week

Gee, I want to gloat.
Does my second week in January thread about buying and wearing N95 masks for the country,
coordinated by gov or us now have meaning?
Or any of the comments by others that understand this, as well as the length of time a "Pandemic" can hang around
and play havoc?

Its Like LEDs, I no longer wear the badge, so I have no valuable opinion.
Our countries direction, opinion, conflict, and all we share here, isnt about a small amount of people who feel they shouldnt wear
a mask, its about politics, and the agenda of one, and Money.

Ask One freaking Question.....WHY dont we have an abundance of US made N95 Masks, and PPE for Hospitals, YET!!!!????
Why was this whole thing put in the hands of a relative, with no experience?
Why the Crimson Report, and all the Work done before, so utterly ignored?

We could be at this for years, and this could become a "vid" thread.

Biggest mask failure.

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Heres a story on Florida.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/atlas-desantis-testing-covid-florida/index.html

As Ive mentioned, testing and numbers are politically lowered.
It is as much for Disney, tourism, as it is to get Seniors out to vote, as the State has Plenty, and making them scared,
and afraid is a platform.
The Hospitals are more full than ever, I hear from 5 family, and many friends working there.
Disney is a mess, only from the employee perspective. Media and guests dont hear about it.
And teachers, well we hear everyday from family, and a teacher here or there out with the virus is an everyday event,
with individual schools closing one or two a week in Orange county. Some should have closed, and teachers, well many are scared, and exhausted already. Minimal learning, regardless of method. Kids feel the stress too.

How are those with children in school handling all this by you?
Are you getting good info in your state?

Its as rough as everywhere else, in Florida, but reducing testing, hiding info, creating false info, all for one persons political gain
is doing no service to the well being of the state.
Its as if the only thing important is the worship of money.

Covid Patients are Quarantined. Does not relate to total Beds Available.

Help me out, its simply for my knowledge. Where did you first hear, see, or read of the link you posted?
I wanted to work backwards.....Keeps an old man busy. Thanks.

Im just pissed. One Platform, including children, media, and Pundits is telling everyone the Numbers are down, hardly anyone
is dying. There are no issues to be concerned.

How does this stand, so its repeated back to me as the "Truth"? Are we really that bad at understanding reality?

Believe in Conspiracy theories?

Heres one that hits home....family has been busy with it all day,

https://www.postbulletin.com/rochester-magazine/6735231-John-Titor-Who-was-the-time-traveler-that-visited-Rochester

On Nov. 2 of 2000, a man calling himself John Titor—actually “Time_Traveler_0”—posted a message on a little-known Internet discussion board, something called the Time Travel Institute Forum.

“Greetings,” he wrote. “I am a time traveler from the year 2036. I am on my way home after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.”

He had, he said, made a side trip to 2000 to pick up some family photos and check in on family in Tampa and Rochester.

That introduction—posted to the kind of paranormal/extraterrestrial/conspiracy theory message boards that were just finding a foothold on the Internet—would set off a four-month flurry of “what-” and “when-ifs,” as Titor answered numerous questions, told readers about his life in 2036, and gave us glimpses into our own future.

Over the next four months, Titor’s 570 or so Internet posts would describe an upcoming “civil conflict over a U.S. presidential election.” Warn us about a Mad Cow Disease outbreak. Tell us about the impending nuclear war with Russia.

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The Article was current because of the Virus, and Election.
It repeats the entire story, info, pictures, and then involves myself and my brothers.
75% of what is out there, is so far off from reality, we, as a family laugh at the "Fake News".
Even a Brother, with a name that doesnt exist as such.

For us, its a reminder about critical thinking, and how much to believe and trust what is read on the net.

In this case, I know this was a Hoax story created to see how far info, fake info would spread, at the beginning of the net.
The reality, is a case study example of how hundreds of thousands of people believe now a small story as truth.
We hear of Worship, Prayer, and Conspiracy theories, threats, I mean all kinds of BS as a result.

It is a strange window into human perceptions, gullibility, and a Mindset that allows for bad info, to be accepted.
Today, on this thread, with just the virus, we see opposing views, and different Truths....Like Almost No deaths happening,
stated by The Presidents Son, or Masks dont work.

Please Read this one. I find it both True, and Important.

https://gizmodo.com/someones-leaked-the-covid-19-hospitalization-data-that-1845539530

See Top Post on Terrie Ritchie, Who Dey, has passed away.

The White House has more cases than the continent of Australia

If you are young, and think this coudnt harm you:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-can-affect-male-fertility-researchers-say

Associated Press origin.

https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2020/11/11/report-children-lose-basic-skills-under-virus-restrictions/24685951/

Florida is Screwed.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247081417.html

Hows our Federal Corona Virus Task Force doing? I havent seen anything.

It was determined NOT to use the Defense Production Act for Masks. It was decided to leave it to the Free market.
Jared is in charge.

60 minutes did A story yesterday about lingering affects, and found small blood clots in major organs in young as well as asymptomatic people. Brain fog was a huge issue.
Indeed, small numbers by percentages, but still very unknown long term effects,
and real people.

Covered in other weekend news was the utter failure of herd immunity in Sweden,
and how they are now addressing it.

So so sorry to hear of this, Mark.
I'm certain I speak for others with heartfelt thoughts, wishes, and prayers for you and your wife.
I am glad you shared, though, as still for many people, this isn't real, because they don't know anyone affected.
I hope you get to share an all clear in a post real soon.

From my best friend last night, writing about his brother:

Family had to make a petition with doctors to keep my brother on life support. Doctors want to take him off, think he is lost. They need the ventilator, room space, and staff for those who stand a far better chance. They have people they can help who are dying in halls until they get enough resources. Sad for doctors. They have to choose who lives or dies based on resources and logic. They don't have the luxury of trying to save everyone, they have to try to save the most, and choose who dies. I am sure they cry themselves to bed each night. It has to be traumatic for them. That is where we are as a nation.

Oklahoma City.

SC just decided in NY for Religious Freedom, supporting the right to gather.
Not sure if I agree with this.

You havent seen anything until you attend a Satmar Wedding.

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A cant find the article, but recent news again shows the Vast majority of Anti Mask info on SM is coming from Russia.
So, I had to check.
Ive refrained from posting info from "Personal Sources", but I did ask family about this, as this is Part of their career on a global level
and indeed, now, after the election, that the huge anti mask sentiment, could be greatly caused by this Propaganda.
Amazing, what people believe, because Facebook said so.

I try to have conversations all the time on Religion, Politics, and The Virus.
Many friends I have have very different opinions on these 3 subjects, but if there are a set of facts to agree on to some degree,
an intelligent conversation occurs.

The issues I face in discussion, where it degrades into an impossibility are often limited to 2 areas.
A lack of knowledge, and the worship of money as the primary force in decisions.

Fortunately, all Good Books throughout time, from all cultures address this.
Its simply sad to me that it is often turned upside down for a perspective, and then quoted as truth.

While I disagree with your perspective, I am interested to know What your solution to the Virus would be?
Say its February, you run the US, and you have just learned all about the Virus from your Experts.
What would you have done as President of the US, to Fix this, that is horrible now, so that this didnt happen and we arent where we are today?

I was tested yesterday, required, as I finally have back surgery tomorrow, and find out.

I started the process in February, and Covid caused it to be kicked down the road.

At the height of all this, Now, is when they will tackle me.

I truly hope I dont catch it, it is a death sentence to me.

Thank you all.

I have Nutella, Movies, books, and Porn.
I should be fine!

Thanks John,

I need to do the I-95 Run and visit you as well!

I hope everyone is well, and in Good Health.

Just seems to be getting crazier!

Up at 5, and back home by 1.
Scary, but had a young energetic nurse that helped me undress, shave my back, and kept me laughing.

All went well, no covid. Now for sleep at home. Morphine and Hydro.

Pinside keeps my sanity!!! Thanks to the great people here!

Our Freedoms in the US are protected by the people.
We will be asked to send our children off to war, to ration food, gas, and supplies.
To donate, to volunteer, or to simply wave a flag.
We sacrifice Lives against others to preserve our perception of "Freedom"

Wearing a mask, shouldnt be a debate about Freedom, In my Opinion.
Everyone should want to wear a Mask, to save lives, the economy, and our country.

Whats the Opposite reasoning? Its an infringement on my Freedom to say, "No"
Sacrifice other lives, and especially the medical community, because your Freedom is so inherently
threatened by a Mask?

This is the reasoning of Political Fodder for an Agenda.

Does anyone really believe this would be an issue, if in January, Our govt said,
"Free Masks to all Americans today!" "Wear them everywhere, do so to save your Freedoms"

Sure some would disagree, but a much smaller amount.

Apparently Freedom, in this area means to me, in my opinion only,
that One cares more about how they feel or look wearing a Mask, then they do the lives of fellow Americans,
Doctors, health care workers, our entire system, and The Economy.

The Freedom you want, is for yourself, and the hell with everyone else.

Same shit ive said since January. Health care workers Lives Matter.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-cell-camera-sars-cov-.html

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OK, Im really pissed. I am Aware of Rebekah Jones work when she was the star of Florida State reporting.
She was fired when she refused to censure the numbers lower, earlier in the year, by DeSantis.
She continued, reported school numbers, and the nation. She often shared how the numbers were being manipulated lower.
Ive shared her work several times here.

Now, Im also aware of how significantly lower all numbers are through a variety of relationships.

This is what happened to her. Her home raided, and her computers confiscated, for "security reasons"

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-police-raid-home-of-fired-data-scientist-who-built-state-covid-19-tracker

A lot better read, and more of the truth, before Fox cuts it up.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/07/florida-police-seize-computer-of-covid-data-whistleblower/

More on jones case, and Gestapo State Tactics:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/florida-gop-official-resigns-protest-raid-covid-data-scientist-i-couldnt-believe-it-075650054.html

So, as family has been checking in after my surgery, I decided to ask them and reach to out to others in the know.

Through the clearing house data change in July, by Presidential orders to Telechek in PA, the estimates are between 25% and 30% UNDERREPORTING of Cases, especially in schools.
Our whole understanding, wherever you are, on how bad it is, has been withheld, and manipulated for Self Gain.

Feel Free to disagree. Best Source to me is knowing the sister and asking, of someone who will be in the Oval Office in January. They havent decided on whether the public will hear of the fraud committed.

I am so sick of the Lies that have divided and worked to destroy the country.

My son received the Pfizer shot today in Orlando. He is in Pediatrics. No Issues so far.

I hope to find out next week, about getting one in early Feb. I hope so.

Next administration is/was deciding on whether to release real US numbers.

Not from the news, but from inside.

So the lead story in the Post is Gov of Ohio, Dewine states 60% of Nursing staff wont take vaccine.
This is repeated from other sources, and its a bit tricky, but apparently what was said or meant was that when
some Nursing homes were offered early/first vaccines, 60% of the staff said they would wait, and to give to others.
before them. It gets chopped to present an Anti Vaccine Story, as needed for its targeted Audience.
Its a NewsCorp, Murdoch/Fox Piece.
I didnt go further.

I didnt know this. From a friend an AU.

A $4000 on the spot fine for crossing Borders in Australia!!

Could you see anything like this in the US??

Some people may not get this until Hospitals cant handle people anymore, and Body Bags pile up on the streets.
THEN they will complain for others to do something.

This morning hundreds of thousands gathered shoulder to shoulder with no masks, to show the country.

Which one?

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Second one, but it fails if you get to close to the edge of the Flat Earth.....Do watch out for Aliens, and Dinosaurs too.
Elvis shows up sometimes to help.

Really good info on Vaccine Distribution,
Truly sad we went from 100 Million doses ready to go in Promises, to something south
of 20 Million. Right now 3.7% have received at least 1st shot.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/01/14/covid-vaccine-distribution-by-state-how-many-covid-vaccines-have-been-given-in-us-how-many-people/6599531002/

It isnt either or. No one is denying there are other issues. There always are.
How one handles bankruptcy, financial loss, family issues. And yes, they have increased. But perhaps there might not be much of a society, if we don't fight this virus. We have seen viruses destroy cultures and societies killing 90%, or even 30% to 50%. Some pandemics can last 30 to 50 years, without action. Others seem minor, and destroy lives 40 to 50 years later, when ones immune system is weakened.
So the answer isn't simply let it roll across the planet, nor might it be lockdowns.
But if we want it to return to " normal", we all have to participate.
Denying its existence, wishing it away, doesn't work. If you have a better solution, please share. Back it up. Look at History.
Read about viruses. If you assume Science and medicine is wrong, without learning, your porragative.
Sharing the other issues as you have is good, but the enemy is the virus, not doctors, and not officials that hear with an open mind.
My 2 cents, and if you wish to talk about opiates, I'm a prescription user for over 12 years, and be happy to cover that too.

Great Link! Thanks!

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Basically, its this. Ignorance of Science and Medicine, is understandable.

It does create "opinions" that some now state as "fact"
After numerous personal discussions with others, this was the wall I hit.

"Science HAS to be Right, Its based on Facts"
If it "changes its position", or it isnt "100% Guaranteed" It isnt a fact, it isnt science, it is wrong.

(Fauci on Jan 21 2020 expressed no need for Virus concern, as instructed......This changed, and therefore he was wrong and nothing else said should matter from him, is an argument)

I have spent countless hours, whether its 6000 year old Earth, Flat Earth, the Virus, or writings,
where the other side works hard to find a single point of contention to claim their opinion is truth and fact.

This type of thinking is taught weekly, and many think this way. The fight is against Higher education is bad, Science and Medicine
is wrong.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, and perhaps you live somewhere not in the US, or focus on specific media for your info,
and that, I feel is a number one source of varying opinions/facts.

I'm afraid of Waffle House
....

Am I losing it? Or Am I in the Twilight Zone?

The position held last year of less testing, less cases, is now complaining there isnt enough testing.
My friends and family that laughed and shunned masks almost always last year are now telling me
how upset they are at others for not wearing masks.
And Pundits that stated it was no big deal, its like the flu, are now complaining how serious it is.

I even heard the proposal of mailing free Masks to all American Households, now finding support
from mask opposition.

????

Its possible Indias rates are related to diet, and fatty foods, sugars, consumed...??

that shifting from a diet high in saturated fats to one with monounsaturated fats will reduce the numbers of those bacteria that produce the most inflammatory endotoxin molecules and thereby reduce the severity of the inflammatory response to a COVID-19 infection in vulnerable individuals, such as in obese

Wife and I got first Shot of Moderna Yesterday at Publix.
Took less than 5 minutes.

We were only able to get appointment by spending an Hour online, at 7 AM, on a Monday, when new amounts have been released.

My Arm hurts like hell, even with scripted pain meds, and a hangover like headache. My wife feels nothing.....
Kinda like the last 45 years....

The Human stress load around the house from her fears, have dropped 80% in one week....I hear laughter again...

It took me 5 days to be back to square 1, after my vaccines, 1st shot.
Day 2 was rough. Brain Fog, Dizzy, Cranky, totally out of it.
The other days were a sore arm.
My wife, zero issues.

Well worth the mental benefit, as my wife is getting back to normal, as "Daily Fear" has made it a rough year.

Today was a good day. My 33 year old daughter received an extra vaccine at Publix, and my 25 year old was too, with 8500 extra vaccines in Oviedo. Drove up, 15 minutes and done.
Extra vaccines all over Central Florida right now.

pure hell for me the last 24 hours after 2nd Moderna Shot.
Comes close to heart attack pain.....Every cell is screaming at me, and stronger than my scripted pain meds.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

Sorry, I havent visited here in a while. If this has been shared already, my apologies.

Lunch today, with 2 Family members, who are ICU Nurses in the Covid Wards in Orlando.
This, I did not know.

The States changes, issued by the Governor, dictate that they are NOT testing for Covid 19, or the Delta variance,
as it was done over the last year and a half.
Therefore ANY Covid numbers related to Florida are completely inaccurate.

A little scary.

The discussion here has been can an employer require a vaccine, and not get shot down by a legal action?

So far, I believe employers can do this.
Any additional knowledge? Is there anything related state to state?

Then our talk went to the Fed, as today an Anti Mask Bill in Public Transport coming from Rand Paul.
Could the Federal Govt change funding so that No Vaccine, No Federal ("Socialist") Health care help if you catch Covid?

Could Health Insurance companies Surcharge or cancel someone Not vaccinated?

Orlando Covid ICU is almost full now.
A story was shared by family working there, that they had a covid patient complaining of slow service!
Imagine that!?
It appears he was waiting longer as a "low risk".
Of course it didnt help that he was carrying on to everyone there for their wearing a "face diaper."
I know the nurses wanted to show the "egress"

Who is "They"?

If its a political Party, the planet is "IN" on

Perhaps a peak at Brazil, at 16% Vaccinated, and how the death rate has happened in that country.
Certainly you dont believe this data is all fabricated by a global media power, to affect a political party here?
(same in India, and across Africa.
In fact the only global MSM with the audience, position, and financial interest is Newscorp.
So its a Global conspiracy that this is real, or a single Global MSM as the ONLY truth?
(include Mercer Holdings)

CDC the "Conspiracy source" is US Only, so I guess they control Global data to "Trick us"?

While children under 12, are not showing any effects on a large scale, My son in behavioral pediatrics are studying latent issues in learning development.

The concern is long term, and flare ups of the virus at future dates, even with zero indication of any infection.

in other words....this bugger hanging in your body for who knows how long, waiting for a system condition to flare up.

All unknowns.

Whats upsetting to me is in Florida, the decisions made the last couple days refer to a report by Brown University.
Its also been used heavily on AntiVax media sites.
Brown issued a warning, but in short, their report ONLY reflects data from Lat year and DOES NOT contain any data from the
Delta variant.
When "Covid" alone is being discussed this way, from the top to the bottom, they are leaving out the changes of Delta.

Local news has called out these discrepancies, but the denying masses cant seem to read or comprehend.

Florida sets new Covid Record! and thats with underreporting.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253168148.html

Florida sets a record with 21,683 new COVID-19 cases reported Saturday, the CDC says

Yup, and family in Covid ICU are burnt out.
14 hour days. Covid patients calling them names for wearing face diapers, yelling its a hoax, asking for a shot when its too late.
They do their jobs, but have given up on ignorance and conspiracy, masquerading as truth.

Did you know?

Meanwhile, I didnt know masks are useless.
Vaccine is useless, unless thanking former POTUS, but then they are useless again.
American children are of no worries, if they get the virus. Only children from the other side of the Rio, are of concern.
Vaccines cause the problems. They are the work of the devil, from a leader here.
A major information source, and our Gov speech from Brown University, uses last years data, and ignores the Delta variance. Its fake.
And finally, my neighbor yesterday shared their Sunday visit, the sermon was against the vaccine.

FDA approval in 2 to 3 weeks is being shared on news.

Thanks for sharing.
There are many different reasons for non Vax views. I get it. But its the lies that bother me most.
Understanding proteins and MRNA, as you shared is beyond understanding for many, so its attacked.
I can't imagine how skepticism, which is always good, is replaced with alt facts, will
ever be changed on this.
I fear, it will take a hospital stance, business stance, and educators to lead the way.
The numbers of Vax and hospitalized keep growing in this wave and variance,
Perhaps just everyone's new insurance bills will even help.

I have heard the plus strain is from India,
and currently about the same as delta.

Well it will be an interesting school year in Florida.
Orange County, to start, will follow states Executive Order, as they work to go around, or test its legality, without a change from the Governor.

So, all teachers are instructed that the discussion, interference, actions, advice, or help on masks is strictly forbidden.
If a student wants one, forgets one, or even disagrees with parents and wanted one to get at school, there is no help, no discussion.
Teachers will no longer be able to even take action that respects parents wishes.
What a Mess!

And pediatric unit beds for Covid kids, is now a huge problem.

But thankfully, lines for vaccines again.

I asked.
Im sure eventually, human compassion will adjust for the young kids that need help.
But if their elastic breaks, the school isnt allowing teachers to offer a new mask. Id imagine this will change too.
They just announced in Orange county that there will be a school wide mask mandate, but parents can opt the children out.
A teacher is not allowed to express any personal views, while teaching through a mask, about wearing a mask.

Talk about the teasing that will happen depending on whether the "bullies" are children listening to their parents, wearing or none wearing.

Genetic issues caused by Lead Poisoning in Northern Europe.
(see 16th century full beer bottles recently found, and compared to lead water pipes used for centuries)

Perhaps we need medical facilities just for the unvaxed.
Since they dont trust Doctors and Science, Im not sure why they would go to a place
for treatment filled with people they dont trust.

Perhaps these locations can be staffed by people who search google and facebook
on how to care for them, for their treatment.

We eradicated smallpox.

Supreme Court ruling. 1908, I think, following Massachusetts state ruling gave
the Federal government the authority under national health, the ability to mandate vaccines.

I stand corrected, as the article I read, had it wrong.

"The U.S. Supreme Court upheld a state vaccine mandate over a century ago, in a case setting out the legal test still applied today. The vaccine mandate in that 1905 case, Jacobson v. Massachusetts"

I think of a family member who is from very rural India.
My niece, Husband and infant child were there in March, and returned just as the Delta Variance was exploding.
Of course, they had the same family discussions about Covid, and the same disagreements.

It wasnt until someone close had died, or gotten severely ill, or the dead were in the streets, to change peoples opinions.

I had this same discussion with a fellow Pinhead just back from Allentown.
Everything last year was under the heading of "No Big Deal, Politics, Just like the Flu".
It wasnt until a family member had Covid for over a month, did he start thinking differently.
Sometimes its experiences, and only experiences that can affect myself or anyone else, into a change of thought or behavior.

Its now 20 months since I asked "Should we wear masks", and Im not sure we are any closer.

I do wonder where we would be if all our leaders from 2020 on, had the same view, and Nationally spoke in one voice on this issue.

https://gizmodo.com/anti-vax-nurse-allegedly-injects-8-600-people-with-salt-1847471826

DeSantis is now all set to Give Monoclonal antibody treatments.

Why would an Antivaxer feel better with this?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/health/florida-covid-rapid-response-teams/index.html

I wanted to share a link with anyone who might be involved in personal medical research.
I want to share that I have nothing but respect and gratitude to anyone and everyone in the medical field,
but sometimes what people might need, isnt coming from the US medical playbook.

Everyone can see the isles of jars of supplements and pills that line our stores shelves.
Too often, we go to the Doc, and simply await the "Take a pill" answer.
We listen, we ignore, but we seem to spend more time researching LEDs or a MOD, to get educated than we do our health.

For myself, just diagnosed with Small Vessel Disease, which can effect any organ, and can be caused by Covid, or any unknown Pathogen.
Google/US Medical searches dont help at all.

So, over the last dozen years, I have found therapy from Prescription Drugs used for 80 years around the world, that are sold OTC.
They fall under the category of Proteolytic Enzyme Therapy. There is minimal on its usage US based. It falls under Holistic, and often
is looked at as added to those that want to use Quartz crystals for healing....it gets dismissed.

For others, this is a link to global medical studies, to see how other countries tackle medical issues.
Their are many Caveats, of course, Diet, environmental, genetics, but if you can wade through this, some might find help
as I did to save a life, or improve a condition.

Look up things like Mircroplastics, Covid research from around the Globe, Homeopathic treatments, like Natto, used for at least 1200 years.

Of course, be prudent, Always check with your doctor, and READ.

For me, and family, I know and see how much recovery, reversal, and changes in quality of life, have come from this research,
If it helps one person only, its good.

https://ma.x-mol.com/paper/search/q?selectSearchType=0&option=lumbrokinase

I'll make this brief.
If you don't live in Florida, you get right and left views of DeSantis. You aren't really hearing a great deal.

If you don't think masks are needed for children, my son in law is in behavioral Pediatrics at Orlando Hospital and working on this since the start.
Covid delta variation is NOT harmless to children, period.
Feel free to believe different. But why would you risk it?

If one feels that masks/vaccines
and it's push is Fascist/Nazi/Socialist
as these words are thrown out, I'd encourage a quick read.
Dr Tim Snyder, " On Tyranny"
is a small book, from a recognized global
leader on the subject.
Ones definitions and perspectives
might be different.
Of course, some just wave their
hands, and insult a " Doctor" and simply
believe they know more.
( if it was appropriate, those that don't know, I'd love to give you an hour with family still alive that you can rub their tattooed number from a concentration camp)

But there is a logic difference.
One view is using collective knowledge, and do somethings routed in science and medicine, and the other is do nothing.
If anti mask anti vax were presenting alternatives, then your point holds more weight.
In fairness, eventually covid will " go away", the consequences would be different.
What bothers me most is the disrespect for our medical community.
For one view, perhaps if the discussion was money, it might be better.
Is everyone ready for double or triple health insurance costs that will come from an unmitigated national health crisis?
Perhaps if someone pays more for being a smoker, insurance companies triple costs to the unvaxed. Maybe That is a greater motivation.

Some people confuse human resuly

I was listening to a group of people, at a dinner table next to mine. Llikely all under 35, and it was very apparent that the dialogue was
from TV, Movies, and Flipping the Phone to share Youtube videos.
The statements derived for "reality" was extrapolated for specific scenes as a kinda "proof".
No reading required to be very smart today. Repeating Movie lines, seems to hold more credibility, especially
if you can imitate the lines, it has the most value.

Could we ask our Florida Governor to do a Public Service Announcement, with our Former President, Celebrating his
effort to create Vaccines in record time, to take the vaccine?

My question further is if this was to happen, how many people would change their view?
(Likely the ansewer here is very little, but think of the masses)

Ive been puzzled by this too. Anti Science, Anti Knowledge, Anti Medicine rears its head every generation or so.
I dive into everything from Genetics, to too much Sugar, to lack of reading, and Youtube or Facebook educations.
Sometimes, like I think now, It can be tied to Politics, and even Religion.
I know, have heard, and read Anti Science/Mask/Vax information coming from some organized worship.
It seems to come down to how and who we view as "right" along with Power and Money.

It behooves me for people to believe that Doctors. Science and Medicine around the planet, are all "IN" on the scam for a specific Political Party, or a Specific Agenda, that is Money, over the reality of Human Empathy, and care, that our medical professionals address on a daily basis with such grace.
If this was true, than you must believe Doctors are bad for everything, and anything if they are "IN" on this conspiracy.

It's information related by choice.
Newscorp, and others close in views,
used pre delta data to make its points.
They simply called it "Covid".
Governors used Brown University (last years data, pre delta)
Report to create No Mask laws.
The media that doesn't support
that decision shared the inaccuracy, as did Brown issuing a statement.
It didn't matter much. The misinformation
Propaganda latched on to " Freedom" and that makes it true.
In agreement with you are those that see
a 4th wave in Israel, even with high Vax rate, and rural India starting up again.