The official Coronavirus containment thread

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#13600 3 years ago

KJS

kstairmantis

Mantis Amusements

Keyser, WV

9y 33,150 85

Biggest thing to remember now is lead time.

The virus takes 2-3 weeks to show up sometimes. So anything today will not show up for a while. With states Opened up, cases will climb but they will not show on the stats until weeks later.

Same thing on our entire supply chain. Appliances, jeans, cotton material, tires, meat...all supply chain. Inventory is just about gone. Factories in China and India are closed or reduced from full output. Thankfully demand has fallen as well with many at home. The lead times have the potential to get nasty.

The secondary problems are going to begin to become issues. We get way too much of our "stuff" from other countries.

Prepare for the worst...hope for the best!

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#13601 3 years ago

KIM

Mr68

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Boulder, CO

12y 150K 8,645

Our Whole Foods store contracted with the local police department and they have officers in full uniform stationed there. The officers love it too as it's overtime pay for any officer that wants it. This actually began over year ago long before Covid19.

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#13603 3 years ago

KCI

KerryImming

Pinside member

11y 43,300 245

Quoted from cottonm4:
I doubt Walmart is getting any swinging deals on the food it sells.

I recommend a book called "The Wal-Mart Effect". It gives a very interesting glimpse into the power of the world's largest corporation.

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#13604 3 years ago

CGE

too-many-pins

Pinside member

Carlisle, PA

11y 97,800 4,485

Quoted from o-din:
The latest news I heard yesterday is they are now predicting 140,000 dead in the US by Aug 1, where as a week ago I believe that was by the end of August.
Any guesses about the end of June now that much of the country is reopening?
The reality is they just wanted to slow the spread and make the pandemic last longer so the medical industry would not be overwhelmed all at once, and in many places the hospitals are yet to be. That might change soon enough though.

I think the main idea of the "two month lockdown" was actually two fold. First they were hoping to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed and second they were hoping to come up with some kind of treatment that might save lives. I don't think anyone ever really expected to stop the spread fully with the lockdown. Sadly after two months people are sick of being stuck at home and are going to start doing "foolish" and unless warm weather helps the Coronavirus will spread like crazy over the next few months. Worse yet is the fact they really have not found anything much that works as far as treatment.

I think 2020 is going to be a "lost year" for most people that live through it. The cost of this virus is going to be huge both on human life and on the world economy. And sadly we are only a couple months into something that will likely last 2 to 3 years (at best) if you look at history and viruses from the past. At this point I am just hoping 2021 is better than 2020. Only time will tell!

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#13605 3 years ago

JMS

swampfire

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Snipped and lightly paraphrased from a long twitter thread:

“Testing programs depend on [...] people being so compliant that they will stay home for 14 days because a health worker told them to. Meanwhile, in Detroit last week a grocery store security guard was shot in the head for asking someone to wear a mask.”

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#13607 3 years ago

OP

TKM

Daditude

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Rockwall, TX

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#13608 3 years ago

HAB

hAbO

Habo's Arcade

12y 271K 19,967

Quoted from wrb1977:
What? 1,400 deaths in 24 hours? When? Not even New York had those kind of numbers. Georgia has 1,441 total deaths since this whole thing started according to worldometers and you are saying 1,400 of them took place on a single day and the other 41 the other two months???
You clearly have misread the data somewhere or there was a misprint. Their daily deaths have been about the same or on the decline since they opened. Yesterday Georgia had 4 new deaths. On average they have had about 50 daily deaths going back to before they opened as I have been following Georgia since they first started talking about being the first state to ease restrictions. This info you provided is a perfect example of the kind of misinformation that is everywhere and that people latch on to.

That was a direct copy and paste from just one source. Not in 24 hours but since reopening. It was in the news today in several places and again on NBC news round up tonight - Up 60% since opening up. Maybe I’m wrong or they are wrong and everything is alright in Georgia.

I’ve been locked up at home so long I could be talking to my water heater thinking it’s Lester Holt.

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#13610 3 years ago

WRB

wrb1977

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Pittsburgh, PA

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Quoted from hAbO:
That was a direct copy and paste from just one source. Not in 24 hours but since reopening. It was in the news today in several places and again on ABC news round up tonight - Up 60% since opening up. Maybe I’m wrong or they are wrong and everything is alright in Georgia.
I’ve been locked up at home so long I could be talking to my water heater thinking it’s Lester Holt.

It was a bad source. There hasn’t been a spike in daily deaths in Georgia since they reopened as I’ve been following their numbers from before they reopened. I appreciate your comments.

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#13611 3 years ago

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o-din

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Quoted from too-many-pins:
First they were hoping to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed and second they were hoping to come up with some kind of treatment that might save lives.

Well, there has never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus, so they are being a little overly optimistic in that department for sure. And there may never be one. A lot of people are going to be guinea pigs for whatever they do stick in their arms.

And now we have inmates trying to get the virus in hopes of an early release.

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#13612 3 years ago

OAK

Oaken

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Quoted from o-din:
Well, there has never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus, so they are being a little overly optimistic in that department for sure. And there may never be one. A lot of people are going to be guinea pigs for whatever they do stick in their arms.
And now we have inmates trying to get the virus in hopes of an early release.

I love your optimism that the arms are where we are gonna get stuck.

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#13613 3 years ago

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ForceFlow

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Quoted from Murphdom:
According to The New York Times 1/3 of all U.S. deaths are nursing home residents or workers.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html

NY issued an executive order on 5/10 requiring nursing home staff to be tested twice a week.

Also, that hospitals are now not allowed to discharge nursing home patients unless the facility certifies that they can care for the patient, and also that the hospital cannot discharge a nursing home patient unless they have a covid-19 test that tests negative.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-20230-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency

https://wbng.com/2020/05/10/cuomo-issues-executive-order-mandating-all-nursing-home-staff-be-tested-for-covid-19-twice-per-week/

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-reverses-nursing-home-directive-to-take-covid-19-patients-requires-more-staff-testing/2410533/

This is after Cuomo insisted on 4/25 that nursing homes have to take back covid-positive patients:

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cuomo-nursing-homes-dont-have-the-right-to-object-to-order-requiring-admission-of-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/71-370ce285-0a0d-4df1-90c5-b5af508444df

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/nursing-homes-cant-reject-coronavirus-patients-cuomo-says/

https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/ny-state-let-coronavirus-infected-nurses-work-in-nursing-home/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-spreads-new-york-nursing-home-forced-take-recovering-patients-n1191811

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-mandates-nursing-homes-take-covid-19-patients-discharged-from-hospitals-11585228215

Additionally, the original directive instructing this appears to have been removed from the NYS site (attached below).

Original link: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2020/03/doh_covid19-_nhadmissionsreadmissions_-032520.pdf

DOH_COVID19__NHAdmissionsReadmissions__032520_1585166684475_0.pdf

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#13614 3 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

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New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from hAbO:
That was a direct copy and paste from just one source. Not in 24 hours but since reopening. It was in the news today in several places and again on ABC news round up tonight - Up 60% since opening up. Maybe I’m wrong or they are wrong and everything is alright in Georgia.
I’ve been locked up at home so long I could be talking to my water heater thinking it’s Lester Holt.

I was watching the same report. Lester holt told me new cases are up 64 percent in Georgia since the big transition back to being great opening up again or whatever are calling it today happened.

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#13615 3 years ago

JMS

swampfire

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I don’t see how anybody can conclude anything about GA. We’ve been opened back up for less than 2 weeks, and it takes a few weeks for the new infections to show up. Plus a lot of us in metro Atlanta are continuing to stay home. At any rate, this chart shows that new cases are (were) falling off. Check back on us in a month.

Source: https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

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#13616 3 years ago

ROB

Rob_G

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Regina, SK

9y 99,300 5,332 3 6

Quoted from too-many-pins:
I think 2020 is going to be a "lost year" for most people that live through it. The cost of this virus is going to be huge both on human life and on the world economy. And sadly we are only a couple months into something that will likely last 2 to 3 years (at best) if you look at history and viruses from the past. At this point I am just hoping 2021 is better than 2020. Only time will tell!

I'm thinking ahead for a time when I can look back on all of this and be glad it is over. I don't know when that will be, but I'm scared it won't be any time soon. In that time, I hope people and countries don't go off the deep end....

Rob

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#13617 3 years ago

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ForceFlow

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NY's metrics for reopening regions of the state.

I'm a little concerned that with a staggered opening plan like this, that some people in closed areas will make a beeline for open areas and cause a cluster of infections, possibly causing an open area to have to shut down again.

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#13618 3 years ago

CRD

chad

Game Guy

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I had no idea costs and fees were this high for restaurants using GrubHub. 46 meals cost over $1000 and they only receive $300 plus. Unreal.

https://news.yahoo.com/much-restaurants-really-order-grubhub-171851427.html

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#13619 3 years ago

JAM

Wolfmarsh

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Quoted from chad:
I had no idea costs and fees were this high for restaurants using GrubHub. 46 meals cost over $1000 and they only receive $300 plus. Unreal.
https://news.yahoo.com/much-restaurants-really-order-grubhub-171851427.html

We've mostly stopped using Uber eats and grub hub because of their fees and business practices. We had Moe's via Uber Eats a few weeks ago and it was $70 for 2 adults and 2 kids. Not happening again.

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#13620 3 years ago

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Gott1978

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Quoted from hAbO:
Georgia is spiking since reopening.
"Georgia started the process of reopening its economy on April 24, something Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms was firmly against. The mayor warned of more covid-19 deaths if the state opened back up too soon. It seems she was right.
On the same day that Gov. Brian Kemp lifted Georgia’s stay-at-home order for most residents, Georgia confirmed that its covid-19 death toll increased by 1,400 within 24 hours, according to figures posted by the Georgia Department of Health, Savannah Now reported.
Georgia’s total number of cases has increased to nearly 33,500, according to Worldometer."

As of May 11th, the CDC reports 739 deaths due to coronavirus in Georgia, with a total of 22,393 deaths from all causes for the period of 1 Feb - 9 May. Deaths from pneumonia, Covid-19, and influenza in Georgia for the same period number 2,082. See: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

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#13621 3 years ago

DVE

Blitzburgh99

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Really just goes to show how the death count is likely much higher than reported.
Here - this being America and all - a campaign is well underway to pretend that the death count is way overstated and a media / political conspiracy to make the people in charge look bad. Nobody is actually dying. It’s fake news.
Sometimes the best 6 seconds of my day is right when I wake up and forget that all of this is going on.

True story...my buddy in Orlando has a neighbor who’s wife battled cancer for years and was declared terminal in the fall. She passed away in April. When she was admitted, she tested negative for covid-19. The death certificate has “covid 19” listed as primary cause of death. The hospital will not return his calls with questions about it.

.... and now for a check of the weather. Yup! The sun came up this morning.....

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#13622 3 years ago

HAB

hAbO

Habo's Arcade

12y 271K 19,967

Quoted from wrb1977:
It was a bad source. There hasn’t been a spike in daily deaths in Georgia since they reopened as I’ve been following their numbers from before they reopened. I appreciate your comments.

I'm not trying to be a jerk about it or anything but there were multiple places I saw it. I went back to find the quoted source from yesterday.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/georgia-verifies-thousands-of-new-covid-19-cases-with-black-body-bags-skyrocketing/

A simple Google search for "Georgia coronavirus since reopening" gave me these "bad sources" also.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-georgia-updates-on-may-11/85-9b44b5bd-ae28-4e94-8086-ab32a15a1531
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/495995-death-toll-rises-in-georgia-as-governor-kemp-reopens
https://www.businessinsider.com/out-of-state-visitors-georgia-re-opened-risking-coronavirus-uptick-2020-5

One source says that Augusta is leveling off as Georgia spikes
https://www.augustachronicle.com/news/20200509/analysis-augusta-area-covid-19-cases-level-off-since-businesses-reopened

Quoted from CrazyLevi:
I was watching the same report. Lester holt told me new cases are up 64 percent in Georgia since the big transition back to being great opening up again or whatever are calling it today happened.

See, I wasn't talking to my water heater after all. I tend to believe that reopening is going to lend to a spike and not a decrease.

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#13623 3 years ago

HAB

hAbO

Habo's Arcade

12y 271K 19,967

Now there are people bringing Doctors notes with them to try and justify not wearing a mask where it is mandated. I think the note was also signed by Epstein's Mother.

Pennsylvania man charged after physical encounter at grocery store over not wearing mask

https://www.whio.com/news/trending/pennsylvania-man-charged-after-physical-encounter-grocery-store-over-not-wearing-mask/6XBU7V3K65H5DDO7X3GD63KEDE/

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#13624 3 years ago

CRD

chad

Game Guy

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Quoted from Blitzburgh99:
True story...my buddy in Orlando has a neighbor who’s wife battled cancer for years and was declared terminal in the fall. She passed away in April. When she was admitted, she tested negative for covid-19. The death certificate has “covid 19” listed as primary cause of death. The hospital will not return his calls with questions about it.
.... and now for a check of the weather. Yup! The sun came up this morning.....

More covid related deaths equals more more money to the hospitals reporting them.
Upto $39,000 for each person on a ventilator. Medicare pays this out....

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#13625 3 years ago

RJW

screaminr

In Memoriam

7y 116K 6,151

Quoted from Gott1978:
As of May 11th, the CDC reports 739 deaths due to coronavirus in Georgia, with a total of 22,393 deaths from all causes for the period of 1 Feb - 9 May. Deaths from pneumonia, Covid-19, and influenza in Georgia for the same period number 2,082. See: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Whether Georgia has had 700 or 1400 deaths , I think maybe you guys and other countries have a stronger version of the virus , even though I know that sounds stupid . My State Victoria , Australia has a population of 6 million and Georgia has 10 million , yet in Victoria we have had " only " 18 deaths and we include nursing home deaths and a quarter of them have been from cruise ships . As far as I recall both countries locked down at around the same time . I find it hard to understand how some countries are hit a lot harder than others , ( percentage wise ) considering we have done the same things .

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#13626 3 years ago

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noob-a-tron

Inactive member

Melbourne

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Got to love capitalism

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#13627 3 years ago

POP

RTR

Pinside+ Frequent

Franklin, TN

11y 118K 3,996 8 6

Quoted from Gott1978:
As of May 11th, the CDC reports 739 deaths due to coronavirus in Georgia, with a total of 22,393 deaths from all causes for the period of 1 Feb - 9 May. Deaths from pneumonia, Covid-19, and influenza in Georgia for the same period number 2,082. See: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

This is incorrect information. Possibly due to reporting lag between GA and CDC. If you go to GA Dept of Public Health website, they have the most complete centrally collected information available for the state.

It comes with a big caveat though - their most recent info (last 2 weeks, rolling) is subject to change as reporting comes in from around the state. Also they only report deaths And infections on people that have had a positive Covid test. Not everyone gets/got tested.

So their recent numbers are under reported in 2 ways. No numbers for people sick or dead if they were not tested and the up to 2 week lag in getting a number at all from around the state into the state reporting system.

The uptick you see reported on the news is likely from local hospital Or health systems reporting very recent information that has not made it to the GA Dept of Health yet.

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#13628 3 years ago

POP

RTR

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Franklin, TN

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Quoted from Blitzburgh99:
True story...my buddy in Orlando has a neighbor who’s wife battled cancer for years and was declared terminal in the fall. She passed away in April. When she was admitted, she tested negative for covid-19. The death certificate has “covid 19” listed as primary cause of death. The hospital will not return his calls with questions about it.
.... and now for a check of the weather. Yup! The sun came up this morning.....

This is anecdotal twice removed. People out there looking for news that fits their perspective are latching on to anything they find.

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#13629 3 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from RTR:
This is anecdotal twice removed. People out there looking for news that fits their perspective are latching on to anything they find.

Didn’t you read?

He started it by saying “true story.”

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#13630 3 years ago

POP

RTR

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Franklin, TN

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Quoted from wrb1977:
Yesterday Georgia had 4 new deaths. On average they have had about 50 daily deaths going back to before they opened as I have been following Georgia since they first started talking about being the first state to ease restrictions.

So, as an example, assuming you were referring to the GA May 10 death number, the 4 deaths reported when you looked yesterday have already been revised up to 10 as of this morning. I only mention this bc it’s probably important not to look at fresh daily numbers as a trend line. It will be super if it turns out that way though!

https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

I have family in GA and am keeping a close eye on the situation too.

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#13631 3 years ago

POP

RTR

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Franklin, TN

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Didn’t you read?
He started it by saying “true story.”

Dammit, you got me. knew I was on shaky ground with that “True Story” lead in....

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#13632 3 years ago

DVE

Blitzburgh99

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10y 111K 4,955

Quoted from RTR:
This is anecdotal twice removed. People out there looking for news that fits their perspective are latching on to anything they find.

You’re incorrect, once removed. I’m not looking for ‘news that fits’ an agenda. This is from my buddy that I’ve known since kindergarten sharing his personal experience during casual conversation this week. Open your eyes....

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#13633 3 years ago

DVE

Blitzburgh99

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This thread stated off as a great place to share information with perspectives from all sides. Then people started getting their feelings hurt because things were posted that didn’t fit their belief system or world view. Then people started insulting each other. And then the moderators started getting tons of heat, and shut the thread down. Then it was reopened with heavy handed moderating and thread ejects. Every post is censored before going live. Then people stopped actively participating, except those who “know it all” anyways. Now, there’s no diversity of perspective and this thread is more closed minded than ever. Damn shame.

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#13634 3 years ago

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PantherCityPins

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While it is true there is a 20% higher reimbursement for a COVID-19 DRG code I can tell you that the system has always paid different amounts for different diagnoses and doctors are not pressured to cite a false diagnosis in order to increase hospital reimbursement. In fact, that’s fraud and is a reason a doctor or a hospital would be investigated and fined or even jailed.

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#13635 3 years ago

WWJ

WJxxxx

WWJ Pinball

11y 87,550 1,211 112

Quoted from screaminr:
I find it hard to understand how some countries are hit a lot harder than others , ( percentage wise ) considering we have done the same things .

There are so many different variables to try and take in to account before trying to make a comparison: Population density being perhaps the most important, usual social practice when greeting people, prevalent working conditions, etc. etc.

trying to compare one country, or even one state with another is a pretty futile exercise.

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#13636 3 years ago

TOD

twoplays25c

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After post #13624:
"Now Available in ALL Italics!"

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#13637 3 years ago

WRB

wrb1977

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Pittsburgh, PA

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@habo...you provided completely false information when you said Georgia’s death toll increased by 1,400 within 24 hours of reopening. So within 24 hours of reopening, 1,400 people got infected and the virus spread so fast within their bodies that they died on the very same day?! Wow...this is some virus. I suggest you use some common sense when reading information before quoting a bunch of nonsense. That is what I was correcting and also why I gave my first downvote since this thread went into post approval mode. You were not offering an opinion I disagreed with, but recklessly quoting completely false information.

Also, there is way too much negativity, doom and gloom, and pessimism in this thread. It’s not the reality and is not healthy for anyone, including myself. As soon as anyone provides some positive news or a glimmer of hope, many immediately try to discredit or contradict the information, explain why the info is bs, and almost seem to go out of their way to disprove any good news. It’s almost as if some of you don’t want things to improve “too soon” for reasons that are not allowed to be discussed. Well things are improving and I’m going to continue to be optimistic that the worst is behind us and enjoy my life as tomorrow is never guaranteed no matter what the situation. Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh is located, is moving to the “yellow phase” along with many other counties in PA this Friday and it’s about damn time! I hope those of you that think the sky is falling can at least find some happiness in your lives by playing some pball.

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#13638 3 years ago

BRI

gweempose

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Quoted from twoplays25c:
After post #13624:
"Now Available in ALL Italics!"

Thanks for the heads-up! We'll look into it.

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#13639 3 years ago

BRI

gweempose

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#13641 3 years ago

POP

RTR

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Franklin, TN

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I think this thread is pretty darn good. It isn't an idea bubble. Various viewpoints from around the world and the political spectrum are all welcome to post. And we have all probably had a post or two that haven't 'made the cut' for whatever reason. It's improved the tone and quality, IMO. Some of the analysis has been super. I love reading posts and perspectives from other countries too. Wish there were even more of those.

Posting information and knowing you may have to defend it a little makes most think twice before hitting that send button. I think it improves the content, although I can see where it could be upsetting to some.

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#13643 3 years ago

TDR

Who-Dey

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Quoted from wrb1977:
It’s almost as if some of you don’t want things to improve “too soon” for reasons that are not allowed to be discussed

You hit the nail right on the head. This is 100% what it's about for most of the people who are still active in this thread.

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#13644 3 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

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New York, NY

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Quoted from hAbO:
See, I wasn't talking to my water heater after all. I tend to believe that reopening is going to lend to a spike and not a decrease.

I agree with you - but Swamp is right it's probably a little early for us to know the true effect. And the Georgia numbers/stats right now and weird and contradictory upon further review. I think it'll be a lot clearer in a few days.

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#13645 3 years ago

HRG

poppapin

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Quoted from Who-Dey:
You hit the nail right on the head. This is 100% what it's about for most of the people who are still active in this thread.

Not only this thread, but also the media narrative.

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#13646 3 years ago

HAB

hAbO

Habo's Arcade

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Quoted from wrb1977:
habo...you provided completely false information when you said Georgia’s death toll increased by 1,400 within 24 hours of reopening. So within 24 hours of reopening, 1,400 people got infected and the virus spread so fast within their bodies that they died on the very same day?! Wow...this is some virus. I suggest you use some common sense when reading information before quoting a bunch of nonsense. That is what I was correcting and also why I gave my first downvote since this thread went into post approval mode. You were not offering an opinion I disagreed with, but recklessly quoting completely false information.
Also, there is way too much negativity, doom and gloom, and pessimism in this thread. It’s not the reality and is not healthy for anyone, including myself. As soon as anyone provides some positive news or a glimmer of hope, many immediately try to discredit or contradict the information, explain why the info is bs, and almost seem to go out of their way to disprove any good news. It’s almost as if some of you don’t want things to improve “too soon” for reasons that are not allowed to be discussed. Well things are improving and I’m going to continue to be optimistic that the worst is behind us and enjoy my life as tomorrow is never guaranteed no matter what the situation. Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh is located, is moving to the “yellow phase” along with many other counties in PA this Friday and it’s about damn time! I hope those of you that think the sky is falling can at least find some happiness in your lives by playing some pball.

I think you may have misread or misinterpreted the post. If you read what was stated - Georgia reopened April 24 (NOT within the past 24 HOURS) and since then there have been 1400 or so deaths. That is what the article said which is what I thought to share.

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Also, there is way too much negativity, doom and gloom, and pessimism in this thread.

Sorry to burst anyone's fantasy but things are not going all that great. What is happening in the US is not the positive puppy dogs and ice cream as some may think. Everyone has a long way to go before there is vaccine. The US has NO plan going forward except to open up and let people die that are going to die. That's not a plan and we knew this was coming in January. Without testing (which not everyone cant get no matter what they say) you cant open up blindly when the guy next to you in the office may be infected. So, I wasn't trying to offend you by posting something contradictory but to possibly discuss. Instead I was downvoted and dismissed.

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I had no idea costs and fees were this high for restaurants using GrubHub. 46 meals cost over $1000 and they only receive $300 plus. Unreal.
https://news.yahoo.com/much-restaurants-really-order-grubhub-171851427.html

That is big bite. But what I am seeing is that even without the big bite this shop only brought in $1,042.63 for the month. That might pay for the lights. But no restaurant is going to be open very long with a monthly revenue of $1000.00.

https://news.yahoo.com/much-restaurants-really-order-grubhub-171851427.html

" In late April, Chicago Pizza Boss owner Giuseppe Badalamenti shared a photo of a March statement from Grubhub, one of the country's biggest food delivery apps. The now-viral post revealed one of Badalamenti's restaurant clients brought in $1,042.63 worth of orders during the month — but only pocketed $376.54 after all of Grubhub's fees were deducted.

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You hit the nail right on the head. This is 100% what it's about for most of the people who are still active in this thread.

I wish people would stop making the issue of trying to survive this virus a political issue.

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Quoted from Who-Dey:
You hit the nail right on the head. This is 100% what it's about for most of the people who are still active in this thread.

I don’t think this is true at all. Everyone on this thread wants this to get better.

Here’s the problem, if you post anecdotal BS that isn’t based in reality and you consider that a “glimmer of hope” it’s not a glimmer of hope at all, it’s anecdotal BS.

In addition, if you then take that anecdotal BS and say it means we should just open up the country you actually are going to make this pandemic have even worse effects than it already has.

That’s what I don’t think the people who are protesting understand. If you remove all restrictions and just let the virus go, we will be back to where we started and probably worse. Now you’ve made the pain of shutting down even worse and caused another spike in infections and thus another shutdown.

But hey, what does science know about viruses and how they spread? Someone has a cousin who says it’s all BS and fake news so let’s just go with that.

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