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Here's a story in the NY Times about a poultry plant in the South, and how the conditions are deteriorating there. We need to address these issues at food processing plants throughout the country or we are in trouble.
Some plants are paying workers a $500 bonus, but it's really an attendance bonus. By doing this they are incentivizing sick people to come to work:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/coronavirus-chicken-meat-processing-plants-immigrants.html
This is where I would start carrying a box of rocks and start making some midnight runs and practice my window pitching skills. Either that or start ramming potatoes up some tail pipes.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/tech/instacart-shoppers-tip-baiting/index.html
Quoted from Wickerman2:Good one!
Sorry but I don't know how it works in the US, I thought if you were not insured you had to pay, So if I was one of the 10 million that just had been laid off and have no money why would I go get a $2-3k Covid test.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:Sorry but I don't know how it works in the US, I thought if you were not insured you had to pay, So if I was one of the 10 million that just had been laid off and have no money why would I go get a 2-3k Covid test.
It’s a mix of all that...you aren’t far off really.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:Sorry but I don't know how it works in the US, I thought if you were not insured you had to pay, So if I was one of the 10 million that just had been laid off and have no money why would I go get a $2-3k Covid test.
Well on the bright side depending on where you live, odds are there wouldn’t be one available for you not to afford anyway.
Global Plasma Leaders Collaborate to Accelerate Development of Potential COVID-19 Hyperimmune Therapy.
Plasma industry alliance to develop one, unbranded hyperimmune immunoglobulin to accelerate a reliable, scalable and sustainable option for caregivers to treat patients suffering from the impact of COVID-19.
https://www.cslbehring.com/newsroom/2020/covid-19-hyperimmune?utm
Quoted from cottonm4:This is where I would start carrying a box of rocks and start making some midnight runs and practice my window pitching skills. Either that or start ramming potatoes up some tail pipes.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/tech/instacart-shoppers-tip-baiting/index.html
I can't believe someone would actually strip a tip away from someone who is helping them out by going grocery shopping for them. That's pretty low and down right evil.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Sweden has reversed that and admitted it was a mistake.
I must have missed something essential, what has it been reversed and who admit its a mistake?
Quoted from darkpinball:what has it been reversed and who admit its a mistake?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/%3famp=true
Doing nothing and trying to get herd immunity when they don’t know if you become immune. I don’t think they’re admitting it really, they have some restrictions which sounds new.
Saw that the new expected peak for WI is 4/13. I'm guessing that doesn't factor in the effect of our idiotic election.
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Dude still owes me that kiss
Here in Michigan the stay at home order is being extended through the end of the month. Also, as of this Saturday the governor is now banning people from going to see friends and family even in small numbers. I'm not sure how they are going to enforce that one.
I saw a friend the other week who lives on his own, his folks have the virus, and another is hospitalized by it so he literally can see no one from his family in person. We sat outside 15ft a part at his house where I brought my own lawn chair. Not sure what the harm is with continuing to do that but I'm sure some people wouldn't be that cautious so instead any visiting is being banned.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:Sorry but I don't know how it works in the US, I thought if you were not insured you had to pay, So if I was one of the 10 million that just had been laid off and have no money why would I go get a $2-3k Covid test.
It seem like the U.S. has decided, all of a sudden, it needs to be a socialist government in everything---but health care. Four yeas ago we were told Obama Care would be replaced with "something great". We are still waiting for health care greatness to happen.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:Sorry but I don't know how it works in the US, I thought if you were not insured you had to pay, So if I was one of the 10 million that just had been laid off and have no money why would I go get a $2-3k Covid test.
Many insurers in the US are now covering Covid 19 tests and any treatment as a result of the virus. I'm not sure if the US stimulus plan recently passed is covering Covid 19 tests and treatment for those uninsured.
Quoted from cottonm4:It seem like the U.S. has decided, all of a sudden, it needs to a socialist government in everything but health care. Four yeas ago we were told Obama Care would be replaced with "something great". We are still waiting for health care greatness to happen.
Not sure who's going to pay the $30 - $60 trillion for a universal health care system in the US and if people want to see their taxes go up 20-30% to pay for it.
Edit: Sorry, I know no political talk!
Quoted from Wickerman2:Doing nothing and trying to get herd immunity when they don’t know if you become immune. I don’t think they’re admitting it really, they have some restrictions which sounds new.
Restrictions and recomendations are still the same and herd immunity has never been a strategy in Sweden because the goal is unidetified, this seems to be a common mistake by the press.
The main strategies in Sweden is to flatten the curve so that healthcare can handle the infected and protecting the elder, they admit that protecting the elder has failed in Stockholm since 40% of the death cases in Stockholm has been in retierment homes, we will see how it is handled in the rest of the country which is about two weeks behind Stockholm.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Not sure who's going to pay the $30 - $60 trillion for a universal health care system in the US. I rather not see my income taxes go up 20 - 30% either to fund it.
I'm genuinely curious how the math works out for others. I'm self-employed so health insurance for my family of 4 isn't subsidized in any way and costs us $25k~. Last year our federal income tax paid was $22k~. I'd take a 20-30% increase to pay for universal health care all day, our tax bill could DOUBLE and my family would still be money ahead.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Not sure who's going to pay the $30 - $60 trillion for a universal health care system in the US and if people want to see their taxes go up 20-30% to pay for it.
Edit: Sorry, I know no political talk!
Not political; our current "for-profit" system is very bloated, inefficient and offers all kinds of opportunity for cost savings regardless of politics.
this sounds.... not good
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/coronavirus-may-reactivate-in-cured-patients-korean-cdc-says
Coronavirus May ‘Reactivate’ in Cured Patients, Korean CDC Says
The coronavirus may be “reactivating” in people who have been cured of the illness, according to Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
About 51 patients classed as having been cured in South Korea have tested positive again, the CDC said in a briefing on Monday. Rather than being infected again, the virus may have been reactivated in these people, given they tested positive again shortly after being released from quarantine, said Jeong Eun-kyeong, director-general of the Korean CDC.
Quoted from Wickerman2:Day in the life type article about NYC. Crazy.
https://apnews.com/43f86972baffe88bcfc953d98016a3a0
That woman is bad ass. So many “can do” people in the world.
Quoted from cottonm4:This is where I would start carrying a box of rocks and start making some midnight runs and practice my window pitching skills. Either that or start ramming potatoes up some tail pipes.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/tech/instacart-shoppers-tip-baiting/index.html
That’s such bullshit! Some people are such assholes!
I’m waiting on an instacart delivery as I type. I always increase the recommended tip on the app by a few bucks and always tip at least $10 cash upon delivery. The tip usually factors out between $22 -$25. It’s not mad money, but I think it’s fair and definitely worth it.
Quoted from darkpinball:I must have missed something essential, what has it been reversed and who admit its a mistake?
I read a report that Sweden reversed its decision to not enforce more stringent social distancing. They felt - at first - that they didn’t need to worry about it for certain populations and decided that was a poor decision. If I’m misinformed please set the record straight.
Quoted from Wickerman2:https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/%3famp=true
Doing nothing and trying to get herd immunity when they don’t know if you become immune. I don’t think they’re admitting it really, they have some restrictions which sounds new.
Changing their policies is tacit admission.
It’s just freaking amazing how this has broken out Nationally. Fact is, New York remains the gateway to the country. That combined with population density and sheer volume if human beings in NYC - 300k airline passengers a day through our airports! - means that we were sitting ducks.
NY essentially took one for the entire country. Complain all you want about an economic shutdown, but if New York hadn’t shut down the rest of the country Would. Be. Hella. Fucked.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Here in Michigan the stay at home order is being extended through the end of the month. Also, as of this Saturday the governor is now banning people from going to see friends and family even in small numbers. I'm not sure how they are going to enforce that one.
I saw a friend the other week who lives on his own, his folks have the virus, and another is hospitalized by it so he literally can see no one from his family in person. We sat outside 15ft a part at his house where I brought my own lawn chair. Not sure what the harm is with continuing to do that but I'm sure some people wouldn't be that cautious so instead any visiting is being banned.
You’re behaving responsibly and supporting a friend who needs it. Good job!
Quoted from swampfire:I think our cat is taking the social distancing just a little too far.[quoted image]
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Not sure who's going to pay the $30 - $60 trillion for a universal health care system in the US and if people want to see their taxes go up 20-30% to pay for it.
Edit: Sorry, I know no political talk!
Change the insurance laws and it’s not that big of a deal. Think of it this way. EVERYBODY that really needs healthcare should get it. They NEED to get it! And they should have to pay for it. In privatized healthcare, people pay way more than they should have to - because its a freaking sellers market! with healthcare, that’s not cool. Because health care has enormous social and economic implications for everyone.
Then you have the people that need healthcare bad, but don’t get it, because they can’t afford it. In a pandemic, unfortunately, a lot of these people just die. Or put massive strain on the system. Negatively impacting the people that do pay. But the broader issue is that by not getting healthcare they put the greater society and ECONOMY (for those that respond better to that word) at much greater risk...because they negatively impact health and productivity for everyone.
Bad healthcare is the ULTIMATE trickle down. In the worst way.
Quoted from metallik:Posted that same link yesterday
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-coronavirus-containment-thread/page/170#post-5582281
It's a good link so I won't report you for "broken record"
Single-payer healthcare isn't an "if", but a "when" for the USA. The COVID economic shock is exposing many of the longstanding fissures in our "sink or swim" system. Which, for many, still consists of "work, or die".
Actually, come to think of it, lately it has been more like "work *and* die".
I thought the Great Recession would've been enough of a wake up call, but maybe this will finally do it.
Anyway, seeing the curve flatten is good, but overall the count is still going up... and in places like Mexico, India, and Russia... it's gonna go WAY up. :/
Quoted from littlecammi:Doesn't the state of Illinois stick out in the middle of the country, with every surrounding state showing lower gas prices?
Gotta love the taxes they pile on at every level (state/county/city) here in Illinois.
Take a look at the gas taxes out in Washington state. Might make Illinois seem not quite so bad. However, I have not looked at the gas taxes in Illinois in about 10 years, so maybe that has changed.
Quoted from JodyG:Someone in China ate a bat and then 10% of the US was laid off. There, you're caught up!
Actually, I saw an interesting story that says there's a working theory that a Wuhan farmer was gathering bat dung to use as fertilizer for his crops, he was then at the wet market, where things are really filthy, and that's how this all got started. Did anyone else see that article?
Follow up on the feds seizing Massachusetts masks. Turns out they aren’t the only ones.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-07/hospitals-washington-seize-coronavirus-supplies
My wife’s clinic had an order of oximeters seized of all things.
Quoted from arcademojo:My new official covid-19 bier. This stuff is really good. And I usually hate any kind of fruit flavored beer. Of course I’ll probably be sick of it after a case.[quoted image]
Tired of drinking. Ran out of beer and went through half the whiskey. I don't like whiskey no more, the taste brings back bad memories. Tapped into the Dark Rum, it was OK but made me feel tired. Bout a few cases of Keystone Utility Beer. Just enough, closest to water I have found.
Gonna give it all up in a few days. Enough is enough.
Quoted from phil-lee:Tired of drinking. Ran out of beer and went through half the whiskey. I don't like whiskey no more, the taste brings back bad memories. Tapped into the Dark Rum, it was OK but made me feel tired. Bout a few cases of Keystone Utility Beer. Just enough, closest to water I have found.
Gonna give it all up in a few days. Enough is enough.
If you want to quit drinking just buy a 6 pack of Bud. You'll never finish it. LOL
I think I still have some bud lime left over from a pinball party 3 years ago. Worst stuff there is. Can't even give it away.
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