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#6951 2 years ago

It'll bring a tear to your eye

#6952 2 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

I just went to the local Aldi store for some essential perishables. I wasn't going to go in if it was crowded, but there were only a small handful of cars there, so I went in.
Food was fully stocked, except for bread. Plenty of eggs, milk, canned goods, frozen foods, etc. Toilet paper and paper towels were still all gone. There was a limit of 6 jugs of milk, and a limit on canned goods.
All the cashiers had plexiglass shields. There were signs everywhere to remind people to keep 6 feet away from each other, and stickers on the floor throughout the whole store measured 6 feet apart saying the same thing
About half the customers in the store were wearing masks, about half were not. There were maybe a dozen people, plus 4 staff. Only a couple of customers were wearing gloves. Staff were not wearing gloves or masks.
I also noticed that the divider bars had been removed from all the check-out lanes.
That was about everything I observed.

I had a very similar experience at my local Aldi about an hour ago.

The real question is...what was their price on spiral hams?

#6953 2 years ago
Quoted from Coindork:

go into someplace like a white supremacist bar

White supremacist bars huh... lot of those around your parts, are there?

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#6954 2 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

I just went to the local Aldi store for some essential perishables. I wasn't going to go in if it was crowded, but there were only a small handful of cars there, so I went in.
Food was fully stocked, except for bread. Plenty of eggs, milk, canned goods, frozen foods, etc. Toilet paper and paper towels were still all gone. There was a limit of 6 jugs of milk, and a limit on canned goods.
All the cashiers had plexiglass shields. There were signs everywhere to remind people to keep 6 feet away from each other, and stickers on the floor throughout the whole store measured 6 feet apart saying the same thing
About half the customers in the store were wearing masks, about half were not. There were maybe a dozen people, plus 4 staff. Only a couple of customers were wearing gloves. Staff were not wearing gloves or masks.
I also noticed that the divider bars had been removed from all the check-out lanes.
That was about everything I observed.

The Aldi I goto removed theirs about 2 weeks ago. No tape on floor or plastic barrier up. The cashiers to had no gloves or masks on.

#6955 2 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

I had a very similar experience at my local Aldi about an hour ago.
The real question is...what was their price on spiral hams?

$.95/lb at the Aldi here for a spiral ham, and you can get a whole carrot cake for $8, weekend is looking up!

#6956 2 years ago

Odin , how about this.

#6957 2 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

on behalf of my country, may we at least unite yours

Yes EH - those damn canucks wanting all the masks they can get you would think there is a pandemic or something. The tail of two countries

#6958 2 years ago

I saw packaged bacon at Ralphs for over $10 a pound. They are usually kinda pricy without using their card, but that seemed way out of line.

I'll be going to Stater Bros next week to see what their butcher cut bacon is going for now. Usually $4.99 to $5.99 a pound.

Quoted from chad:

Odin , how about this.

What's that cheese goo doing on there? Fake hash browns too?

That aint no Fantasy Omelet.

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#6959 2 years ago
Quoted from chad:

Odin , how about this.

Bacon not well done, sorry.

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#6960 2 years ago

I don't usually do a whole lot of cooking from scratch, but I had the urge to make bauernfrühstück this morning for brunch. It's hard to go wrong with this dish. I ended up using a smaller pan than I normally would since I just used my larger pan for something else, but it worked fine.

Sliced up a potato, a quarter onion, half a tomato, and cooked in some oil for a little while. Mixed up 4 eggs and milk, poured in the eggs, and mixed occasionally. Added a little salt. Makes enough for 2 meals. You could throw in green peppers and bacon bits too, but that's optional. There's also a few other things you can add--it's pretty flexible, depending on your tastes and what you have on hand.
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#6961 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I saw packaged bacon at Ralphs for over $10 a pound. They are usually kinda pricy without using their card, but that seemed way out of line.
I'll be going to Stater Bros next week to see what their butcher cut bacon is going for now. Usually $4.99 to $5.99 a pound.

What's that cheese goo doing on there? Fake hash browns too?
That aint no Fantasy Omelet.

Only cheese goo on the beef and cheddar for Odin!

#6962 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Also - mac and cheese is NOT a vegetable.

Reported.

#6963 2 years ago

Sorry guys, nothing and I mean nothing beats the seafood omelet from Bayside Skillet in Ocean City MD.

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#6965 2 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

I don't usually do a whole lot of cooking from scratch, but I had the urge to make bauernfrühstück this morning for brunch. It's hard to go wrong with this dish. I ended up using a smaller pan than I normally would since I just used my larger pan for something else, but it worked fine.
Sliced up a potato, a quarter onion, half a tomato, and cooked in some oil for a little while. Mixed up 4 eggs and milk, poured in the eggs, and mixed occasionally. Added a little salt. Makes enough for 2 meals. You could throw in green peppers and bacon bits too, but that's optional. There's also a few other things you can add--it's pretty flexible, depending on your tastes and what you have on hand.
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Kinda reminds me of a breakfast skillet at Ellis Island in Vegas. I like mine with a couple over easy eggs on top. Prob won't be eating one of those anytime soon.

#6966 2 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

Only cheese goo on the beef and cheddar for Odin!

And only American cheese on Filet O Fish.

Time for breakfast. $4.31 for two. Life is good!

Except the few times I have gone out over the last couple weeks, I have seen more and more drivers that must think they really are the only ones on the road now. Even with a fraction of the traffic, it is almost worse now than it was before.

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#6967 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

And only American cheese on Filet O Fish.
Time for breakfast. $4.31 for two. Life is good!
Except the few times I have gone out over the last couple weeks, I have seen more and more drivers that must think they really are the only ones on the road now. Even with a fraction of the traffic, it is almost worse now than it was before.[quoted image]

The local traffic lady was just saying that there are a lot of rollover single car accidents around here lately, people not use to using empty on/off ramps. Idiots just hauling ass.

#6968 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I kind of understand why he got sacked. He broke the rules by leaking his important letter to the media.
Basically, he sacrificed his career for his crew, surely as a last resort to get action, to protect the men and women on that ship. He can be proud of his actions and the crew thankful.

TR Plankowner here, I spent some of the best years of my life floating around on that hunk of steel.

Leadership means making difficult decisions and taking responsibility for your actions. I am proud of Captain Crozier and we can see in the video his crew was too.

#6969 2 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

The local traffic lady was just saying that there are a lot of rollover single car accidents around here lately, people not use to using empty on/off ramps. Idiots just hauling ass

I've got people stopped at stop signs not going anywhere. And others pulling into traffic not looking to see if anybody else is coming. It's like demolition derby out there.

#6970 2 years ago
Quoted from beergut666:

$.95/lb at the Aldi here for a spiral ham, and you can get a whole carrot cake for $8, weekend is looking up!

Same here. .95 cents/lb

We don't eat a lot of pork, but I thought that was too good to pass up.

#6971 2 years ago

Shame on you!

Quoted from Daditude:

Same here. .95 cents/lb
We don't eat a lot of pork, but I thought that was too good to pass up.

#6972 2 years ago

This website lets you map infections by percentage of total population in addition to raw totals. You can then zoom in to the county level and click for stats.

https://infection2020.com/

For example in Georgia:

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#6973 2 years ago

There are still only 1500 confirmed cases in Mexico and I am not finding any info on Catalina Island. Not sure how they are treating pleasure craft showing up from the mainland right now.

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#6974 2 years ago

My mom who lives with us is cranking out these masks like a squirrel on speed. Beer for the guys, pretty floral designs for the women. I love mine.

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#6975 2 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

I just went to the local Aldi store

Mine had everything, but the nuts were all sold out. People go crazy for Aldi's nuts Lemmy tell ya.

#6976 2 years ago

sorry to diverge from the current topic of food ( I am getting hungry)

interview on leadership

NPR's Rachel Martin talks to retired Army General Stanley McChrystal, who commanded forces in Afghanistan, about remote work leadership during a national crisis. He founded the McChrystal group.

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

General Stanley McChrystal says watching the spread of the coronavirus reminds him of another fight, a fight against an enemy that is also hard to predict and detect. In 2004, the general took over the Joint Special Operations Task Force and oversaw operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. And in his book "Team Of Teams: New Rules Of Engagement For A Complex World," McChrystal and several members of his team share what they learned.

General McChrystal joins us now. Thanks so much for being with us.

STANLEY MCCHRYSTAL: Thanks for having me, Rachel.

MARTIN: So you say the current situation reminds you of, in particular, the early months fighting al-Qaida in Iraq. Explain that comparison.

MCCHRYSTAL: Well, that was unexpected because we had been purpose-built as a counterterrorist force to operate as a traditional military unit and do sort of slow, periodic but very precise operations. And we got against al-Qaida in Iraq, which emerged - starting in 2003 - as a completely different kind of organization. It was viral. It was amorphous. It constantly adapted. It was a bit like COVID-19.

And getting your arms around it required us to operate in a fundamentally different way. We had to connect our force and realign ourselves every 24 hours because the fight changed so fast. So the reality was winning that fight was less about barrel-chested commandos going in the door and capturing someone. The reality was, how could you pull information, understand the big picture on a constant basis and then apply your resources most effectively?

MARTIN: How do you lead through unpredictability when there is such a vacuum of information?

MCCHRYSTAL: First is a little bit of management. First, you set up a system that can bring in information, that can cross-level both the information, best practices; what's working and what isn't - and so the entire organization gets smarter. That's critical. The second is the leader has to, first and foremost, be absolutely straightforward with all the people they're leading, has to tell them the truth. Even though the truth can change from day to day, we've got to have a level of candor that convinces people that what they're getting from the leader is the best information available at the time.

The second thing the leader has to do is give confidence. And if you think of Winston Churchill in 1940, Britain was thought to be about to lose the war. And what he didn't say was - he didn't say, we're winning. He didn't say, we're about to win. He said, we'll never surrender. He built their confidence for the long haul. I think that's what leaders have to give at every level.

MARTIN: So how do you come down on sharing public information? I mean, when you're running a counterterrorism operation, there are obviously a lot of things you don't want the public to know because it jeopardizes that mission. A public health emergency is so different. How important is accurate public information even though it might be frightening?

MCCHRYSTAL: I think it's critical because if you think about it, what we don't know leaves a vacuum in our mind, and we fill it with the most terrifying ideas. And so I think it's much better for us to get the best information we can, give transparency as best we can. People can handle bad news or frightening news if it's put into context for them and they believe it's accurate.

MARTIN: Have you given thought to how fear can be used productively, though, in a situation like that? I mean, I imagine, as a leader, you need to use anxiety or fear to motivate. Right? But you can't incite it so much as to cause people to become desperate. But if people aren't afraid, then they don't take the threat seriously.

MCCHRYSTAL: That's exactly right. You have to balance it. You've got to tell them that there's a serious problem, that they need to fear the enemy; they need to respect the enemy. But at the same time, you have to build their confidence that says, if you do this right, we can win this. A lot of people have used the analogy of a war, but we really haven't asked the American people to sacrifice for a war since World War II. I think we could mobilize ourselves for what is a warlike threat from a virus that's producing things. And I think the American people want to contribute. They're already scared. I think what we could do is use that as a unifying idea that says, this problem is big enough it requires everybody to focus - it requires some sacrifice from each of us.

MARTIN: What needs to be happening right now that is not?

MCCHRYSTAL: We should not be fighting COVID-19 as 50 separate fights, 50 separate states and territories and certainly not at individual municipal levels. This needs to be a collaborative, national-level fight. When the president talks to the nation about COVID-19, I wish he'd stand up in front of a map and he'd show what things are and he'd say, America, this is an American problem - it's also a global problem - we're going to fight it as an American fight, not as leaving any city or state off on their own to do as well as they can.

MARTIN: But the president has suggested - more than suggested, he has said outright that this is a problem best managed at the state and local level. You disagree.

MCCHRYSTAL: I disagree fundamentally. I think that there are things that are - execution at the state and local level, certainly people in hospitals are making very local decisions, and they're executing. And you don't want to micromanage that, but you do want to manage the overall effort, particularly when you have a shortage of resources.

MARTIN: We talked earlier about what it takes to lead through unpredictability. But how do you reassure Americans right now who don't know when this is going to be over?

MCCHRYSTAL: The first thing we don't want to do is give people an expectation that we are going to have - on date certain, we'll all go back to the park and restaurants and whatnot because then, if it doesn't happen, that disappointment is crushing. But if we tell the nation this is a long, hard fight, we're not sure when it's going to get better, all we can guarantee you is it's going to get better and we are not going to give up until it does. Then people can calculate differently. It's really important to give people realistic appraisals so that we're not, you know, leading them to big disappointment.

MARTIN: Managing expectations.

MCCHRYSTAL: Yes, ma'am.

MARTIN: General Stanley McChrystal, who commanded forces in Afghanistan and Iraq and founded the McChrystal Group, thank you so much for your time, General. Take good care.

MCCHRYSTAL: You're kind to have me. Take care, Rachel

#6977 2 years ago
Quoted from Nibbles:

White supremacist bars huh... lot of those around your parts, are there?

Shortage on senses of humor in your parts?

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#6978 2 years ago

Here's what I did on Wednesday.

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#6979 2 years ago

Our SC governor is an idiot.

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#6980 2 years ago
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

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What is wrong with these people?

And why don’t we have a national stay at home order yet?

And why am I asking you guys?

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#6982 2 years ago

On the smallish side, but for $3.99/lb I’ll do a little more work.

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#6983 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

What is wrong with these people?
And why don’t we have a national stay at home order yet?
And why am I asking you guys?

Come on, folks....follow the money. Why is there not a national stay at home yet? Because areas not yet affected can still generate economic activity. It’s the same as flattening the curve of the disease. Just inverse. Gotta protect Wall Street. Otherwise, our economy collapses and never recovers.

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#6984 2 years ago

Crazy, just looking back on this original thread from a little over 2 months ago, to see how rapidly things have evolved:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/are-you-buying-flu-masks-or-concerned

I will say that I appreciate everyone contributing to this thread and giving news sources and info that someone may have missed. Things are definitely going to get a lot worse before they get better, as we already know. This is the first time in a long time that I've genuinely been nervous to go out in public. I'm high risk because of respiratory issues and a blood clotting disorder that I discovered when I was hospitalized with a dvt and pulmonary emobilism almost 2 years ago.

I'm a retail manager of a store deemed non-essential and have been furloughed for an undetermined amount of time. I know I'll eventually be going back as long as the company doesn't go bankrupt. I also know that when I do this virus will be far from eradicated. I just hope that we can maintain and implement as many measure that are necessary to eventually have some lower risk, normalized form of life.

I was most impressed with my oldest son's selfless act of deciding to not take hours at his current job so that other full-time employees could have them and he would not risk bringing the virus home to me or his 4 siblings and mom. Knowing that while the restaurant he works for was using social distancing measures with customers, he thought it was unrealistic to maintain those with the food prep, etc. in the kitchen.

All I can think as I read through everything is that I know some of you and I don't know a lot of you, however, the one constant is that I wish none of this on anyone and want to see us all pull through with as little loss as possible. Be safe out there.

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#6985 2 years ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Come on, folks....follow the money. Why is there not a national stay at home yet? Because areas not yet affected can still generate economic activity. It’s the same as flattening the curve of the disease. Just inverse. Gotta protect Wall Street. Otherwise, our economy collapses and never recovers.

You are right for sure.

The idea that "areas are not yet affected" is the most horrific part of their scam. ALL areas are affected, or soon will be, which is exactly why it needs to be shut down immediately, if not a month ago.

It's like that guy who asked 3 weeks ago how he could protect the people coming to his place for a 20 person pinball get together in Idaho. I told him he can't, and he should cancel it.

Hope he did. And I hope the person who suggested I was on "crazy pills" and that a "small pinball gathering is low risk" has wised up by now. I'm sure most of us have.

#6986 2 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

On the smallish side, but for $3.99/lb I’ll do a little more work.[quoted image]

I'd rather pay 23.99 and not work as hard. I even had my son in law bring them home from work at Costco. Gave him a credit card to use for awhile. We have tp.

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#6987 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You are right for sure.
The idea that "areas are not yet affected" is the most horrific part of their scam. ALL areas are affected, or soon will be, which is exactly why it needs to be shit down immediately, if not a month ago.
It's like that guy who asked 3 weeks ago how he could protect the people coming to his place for a 20 person pinball get together in Idaho. I told him he can't, and he should cancel it.
Hope he did. And I hope the person who suggested I was on "crazy pills" and that a "small pinball gathering is low risk" has wised up by now. I'm sure most of us have.

I went to LAX, probably the last pinball show on the planet, had I known then what I know now I wouldn’t have. It looks like we got away unscathed, been 3 weeks.

#6988 2 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

I went to LAX, probably the last pinball show on the planet, I had I known then what I know now I wouldn’t have. It looks like we got away unscathed, been 3 weeks.

Yeah there was a serious feeling of "they got that one in under the wire" with that show, even while it was happening.

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#6989 2 years ago

So what are you guys doing to adapt your immediate world? I have long gotten over the stigma of wearing a face covering and gloves. I've noticed each time out, once or twice a week, more people joining the crowd. Not surprisingly the women have taken more to protecting themselves than men. I've seen couples shopping together with her covered and he is not. Several other examples like that as well. My guess is it's a macho thing which all of us guys can suffer from at times.

I've worked out a system with my elderly neighbor and I'll pick up groceries for her. She texts me her needs before I go, I leave them on her doorstep after I return and later she Venmo's me the money. No contact at all with exception of a smile through the window.

My cleaning lady called today because she badly needs the work. I told her no way that I wanted she and her friend coming into my house but that I would continue to pay her each week. She was grateful when I told her we are all in this together.

There's plenty of bragging in my post and I wouldn't have it any other way. And maybe it might spur some ideas or suggestions from you guys. I'm looking for other opportunities especially close to home.

#6990 2 years ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Was thinking the same thing when I took this picture today. Kind of hard to see them way in the back. They come through just about every evening.
I had just got done planting some peach trees and apple trees.[quoted image]

New picture of the peach tree I plated 7 days ago. Apple trees are just starting to bud also. What will come first. Peaches on the tree or end of lock down?

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#6991 2 years ago

Peaches are very tough, at least in my experience, but fantastic when they come in. I'm cheering for end of lock down first.

#6992 2 years ago
Quoted from hAbO:

I mentioned this before but something like 80% of all our pharmaceuticals are made in China. I'd start with this.

I think there is a lot of Americans onboard with more manufacturing here in the US, but right after that is stated they run right over to the stock market investment thread and talk about their 401Ks not even thinking about where their money is going, what companies it is supporting...

#6993 2 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

Not surprisingly the women have taken more to protecting themselves than men. I've seen couples shopping together with her covered and he is not. Several other examples like that as well. My guess is it's a macho thing which all of us guys can suffer from at times.

Probably most guys don’t get that the masks are more for the protection of others than they are for themselves.

Good on you for helping your elderly neighbor. We should all be helping someone who needs it in these times.

#6994 2 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

So what are you guys doing to adapt your immediate world? I have long gotten over the stigma of wearing a face covering and gloves. I've noticed each time out, once or twice a week, more people joining the crowd. Not surprisingly the women have taken more to protecting themselves than men. I've seen couples shopping together with her covered and he is not. Several other examples like that as well. My guess is it's a macho thing which all of us guys can suffer from at times.
I've worked out a system with my elderly neighbor and I'll pick up groceries for her. She texts me her needs before I go, I leave them on her doorstep after I return and later she Venmo's me the money. No contact at all with exception of a smile through the window.
My cleaning lady called today because she badly needs the work. I told her no way that I wanted she and her friend coming into my house but that I would continue to pay her each week. She was grateful when I told her we are all in this together.
There's plenty of bragging in my post and I wouldn't have it any other way. And maybe it might spur some ideas or suggestions from you guys. I'm looking for other opportunities especially close to home.


We are doing the same for our cleaning person. My wife and I cleaned our house ourselves but the money we normally pay to our cleaner is still being paid. I figure as long as my wife and I have our jobs we can continue to support the people that have been good to us in normal times. I know that pay is not going to make up for all the jobs the cleaner has lost at other houses but at least it is a little and shows someone cares about how they are doing in tough times.
We told her it would be like a paid vacation and to just come to the door to get the money which we sanitized. She came on her normal Tuesday this week to pick up the money and brought us flowers believe it or not. My wife was in tears.

#6995 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

The idea that "areas are not yet affected" is the most horrific part of their scam. ALL areas are affected, or soon will be, which is exactly why it needs to be shut down immediately, if not a month ago.
It's like that guy who asked 3 weeks ago how he could protect the people coming to his place for a 20 person pinball get together in Idaho. I told him he can't, and he should cancel it.
Hope he did. And I hope the person who suggested I was on "crazy pills" and that a "small pinball gathering is low risk" has wised up by now. I'm sure most of us have.

That’s what’s scary..when equipment and supplies are being taken from one area and sent to another, the places depleted will be in some serious trouble if/when the disease explodes there. I know their hope is that the supply chain catches up...but will it? It’s like the hidden little secret..the supply chain. Not one news network has shown who makes the PPE, what the factory capacities are, when we can expect “x” amount of items, etc. All we get is pics of food lines, crying families, Closed restaurants, and concerned Healthcare workers. Show us some solutions and when they will happen. I think they know we are being screwed by China and don’t want to got there.

Also...in the “follow the money” trail. Why were things downplayed and confusing from the start? To let all the big Wall Street power players get their money out of the market before the common folk could change their investments /401k. Because, for both democrats and republicans, they are reliant on those big power players for their campaign funds. If they lose their money, they they can’t feed the monkey. Always follow the money, and one will understand why things are happening.

#6996 2 years ago

good job guys. I know you can't pay them forever but that's certainly the right spirit.

My weed dealer/bartender of course has lost his main job as a bartender along with a lot of his customers. I gave him $100 tip on the last order.

#6997 2 years ago
Quoted from jamesmc:

I'd rather pay 23.99 and not work as hard. I even had my son in law bring them home from work at Costco. Gave him a credit card to use for awhile. We have tp.[quoted image]

Funny thing is I actually prefer the taste of the snow over king, with Kerrygold Irish butter of course.

#6998 2 years ago
Quoted from jamesmc:

I'd rather pay 23.99 and not work as hard. I even had my son in law bring them home from work at Costco. Gave him a credit card to use for awhile. We have tp.[quoted image]

How much actual meat do you get per pound?

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#6999 2 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

Funny thing is I actually prefer the taste of the snow over king, with Kerrygold Irish butter of course.

Speaking of meat.

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#7000 2 years ago

Interesting to see the way people respond to our gov'ts aid package. What bugs me the most is that many of my fellow citizens cry for free-market capitalism, which has it's good and bad points, until the handouts start flowing. It's amazing that people who max out debt, don't save a dime, and bitch about paying taxes are the first in line and the loudest when shit hits the fan.

I do agree that those who need help should get it - those who need things like food and shelter and keeping a business alive - but if irresponsible consumers need to sell some assets to get by, that's life. The government's role is not to support quality of life, especially at a citizen's convenience.

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