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I like the theme and the layout with diverters is pretty cool as well. Following this thread 
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Very impressed, you have a lot going on. I really enjoy the layout, magnet, diverters, wall, etc. All of it add up to a very kick ass machine. I hope you finish it.
Quoted from futurepinhead:Is that top right supposed to represent the forest? Really nice addition!
Yes, that's the Hinterland forest with the 7 holiday trees - Christmas, Valentines, St Patricks, Easter, Independence Day, Hallowe'en and Thanksgiving.
They are the 7 lights surrounding the door (between the slings)
we will have to get pinside to add nightmare before Christmas so you can add it to your pinside collection 
Quoted from Rarehero:Dear Pinball Manufacturers:
License Nightmare!
Buy this guy's design!
BUILD THEM!
Thank you.
+1
I love this theme... A must have.
Markinc,
Kudos on all the hard work so far. The images in your Flickr gallery show that you've done an insane amount of work on this!
I must say that I am not a fan of LED playfield lighting (at least as a replacement on older SS machines) but I love the effects you are creating with clear inserts and color-changing LEDs. You'll be able to paint the game with completely different "moods" at will.
Good luck with all the artwork and final details!
I have almost an identical parts list for the whitewood I'm designing. Its great to see that it is possible Great work! The only difference really is I'm going to try using MissionPinball's framework with their new FadeCandy support for the RGBs.
What motor did you end up going with for the 3 motorized drop targets? All the versions I've seen are 24vAC rather than DC. I was looking at the Mousing around motor assembly (same as in ATM and Spiderman/etc). I found this assembly: http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-13095
Looking great and very inspirational to all of us that are considering building a custom game. One question that I have so far. How are you planning on making the ramps? I see they are paper right now. Super cool design but one thing that has always concerned me was how someone could make a one off ramp like that.
Wood molds + your oven + a shop vac. Check out youtube for examples of home-done vac-forming. The longer the ramp the more difficult it becomes because of oven size.
Quoted from Cappi:I have almost an identical parts list for the whitewood I'm designing. Its great to see that it is possible Great work! The only difference really is I'm going to try using MissionPinball's framework with their new FadeCandy support for the RGBs.
What motor did you end up going with for the 3 motorized drop targets? All the versions I've seen are 24vAC rather than DC. I was looking at the Mousing Around motor assembly (same as in ATM and spiderman/etc). I found this assembly: http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-13095
I got the motor at a surplus store here in London. It was about $5 - came with the gearbox!
It's hooked up to 24V, but I ended up using the on/off patter to run it at a slower speed.
My RGB GI is serial neopixels using an arduino nano. Works really well so far.
I send it simple 5 byte commands over USB/comm.
for example:
I can address them all - '255 0 200 100 0' turns them all orange.
Or individually '254 3 200 0 200' turns LED 3 to purple.
I'll have to check the store and see if they have any left, but if they do, I could get one for you. PM me.
Quoted from Linolium:Wood molds + your oven + a shop vac. Check out youtube for examples of home-done vac-forming. The longer the ramp the more difficult it becomes because of oven size.
Does it mention if your oven toxic afterwards or can you still use it for food? I guess it would probably clear out after a cleaning cycle.
Answered my own question. Search "XRobots - How to build a vacuum forming machine including my easy heating solution" on YouTube. He makes a heater out of a space heater and a wooden box with foil. Takes 3 minutes to heat high impact plastic. Shows how to build all the parts of the process. Nice! Looks very doable and not too expensive as long as your ramp isn't a full 45" long
Thanks for the tips!
Great music, art and characters = one of the best themes possible. Been hoping for JJP or DP to grab this licence. Would be a hit for all ages.
Quoted from Atomicboy:Make me one, keep the T2, take the WCS and and one other, and I'll even throw in the FT for David.
Ha! Orders already coming in! Add me to the list
I played this tonight... phenomenal design and play. The ramps need to be made, but all PF shots are very smooth, and 6 orbit shots! (left/right outer, same with inner, and shadow'ish loop, and diverter from the inner loop to allow a loop back to the right flipper. I was seriously impressed with what Mark has done here, it is JAM packed with everything!
Everything but the kitchen sink - but there is a bathtub.
mmmm you must have your WCS now! Have fun with it
Quoted from MarkInc:Yellow card!
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Quoted from MarkInc:My RGB GI is serial neopixels using an arduino nano. Works really well so far.
I send it simple 5 byte commands over USB/comm.
for example:
I can address them all - '255 0 200 100 0' turns them all orange.
Or individually '254 3 200 0 200' turns LED 3 to purple.
Um, what? You're just making stuff up!
Seriously awesome work Mark! Only 141 days to Pinball Expo!
1 month later
Quoted from twinmice:Any updates? Got to keep this thread alive, i want one!!
Yes. Any new progress?
1 week later
Currently programming the rules.
Been working with Kris (Gemini) from our league on rules.
He took a few rough ideas and fleshed them out adding modes for all the characters and holidays and some neat ideas for wizard modes, combos and 2x/3x scoring shots. 43 pages and counting!
Here's a brief overview:
Character Modes
Jack - What's This?
Frenzy mode where all switches award points and some increase the point value
Jack - Where's Jack?
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
Jack - The Scientific Method
Advanced multiball which starts with 2 balls but can be brought up to 4 (excluding add-a-ball)
Sally - Sally's Stitches
Spinner shooting mode
Doctor - A Marked Improvement
Clear major shots to win
Mayor - I Can't Make Decisions!
Must make a travelling shot, but it travels really fast, thus you have to shoot the mayor to hold it in place
Zero - Go Fetch!
Make random shots
LSB - Kidnap the Sandi-Claws
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
.
Hinterland Door Modes
Valentines - Love is in the Air
Increase the spinner value by clearing lit shots/targets
St. Patrick's - Pot o' Gold
Use the pops to fill the pot of gold, then shoot for the Hinterlands to collect, can only collect once in the time limit
Easter - Easter Egg Hunt
Certain major shots will have eggs hidden for points
Independence - Fireworks Festival
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
Halloween - Trick or Treat!
Complete the LSB target bank as many times as possible but don't bug Doctor Finklestein!
Thanksgiving - Harvest Frenzy
An inverse frenzy where only one shot will award points but the value awarded is increased by all other switches
Christmas - Naughty or Nice?
Standard 2-ball mutliball mode where two shots are lit at all times, one worth a few points, the other a lot more
.
Oogie Boogie Modes
Bug Bash
2-ball multiball mode where each standup target starts at a high value and decreases in value each time it's hit
Santa Vs. Oogie Boogie
Try to escape from Oogie Boogie by getting the ball off the playfield down a hole
Sally Vs. Oogie Boogie
Health-bar limited mode where health goes down constantly and must be recharged by making shots
Luck o' the Dice
Roll the dice as many times as you can without going over a cumulative value of 32
Jack Vs. Oogie Boogie
You must clear all the lit shots in a very short time limit while shooting the spinner to get more time
Oogie Boogie's Unravelling
Unusual 3-ball multiball frenzy which can't be completed until you're down to one ball
.
Wizard Modes
Characters - Deliver the Presents
Health-bar limited mode where you must make certain shots while avoiding certain shots
Doors - Holiday Rescue
Find random holiday individuals and return them to their proper realm through the Hinterlands
Oogie Boogie - Mega Oogie Showdown
Battle Mega Oogie with unlimited balls until someone wins
Ultimate - Christmastime in Halloween Town
Timed multiball frenzy where the more different switches you hit, the greater your scores are multiplied
.
Features List
Toys
Running value advanced by the pop bumpers which factors into your bonus, as well as the Deliver the Presents wizard mode
Mystery Award
Gives "random" awards based on the state of the game
Add-a-Ball
All multiballs allow for one add-a-ball, qualified by hitting the mystery target and collected on the graveyard shot
Gate Keeper Multiball
Secret 2-ball multiball where you must bash the gate down with one ball and get the other ball past in the brief moment it's down
SANTA Award
These lights get more valuable every time you complete them over the course of the entire game
2x/3x Shots
The Soup Shot opens the shooter lane diverter briefly, upon getting the ball in you can multiply the scoring of the next major shot you hit
Soup Scoring
Hurry-Up started every 100+ spinner spins where you must make the soup shot for lots of points
Combos
Whenever you shoot one of the 10 major shots, the other 9 will light for a combo potential, with each shot made clearing the combo light
This is Halloween
Video Mode which plays like DDR or Guitar Hero, awarded as the third mystery award (then every 5 following)
.
And here's a more detailed look at one of the modes:
.
Character Mode - "What's This?" Frenzy Page 14
Brief Description
30 Second timed frenzy mode where almost all switches award points. Hitting any of the JACK targets increases the frenzy value. You must reach a target score to complete the frenzy and progress towards "Deliver the Presents".
Scenario
Jack's fallen through the Christmas Town door in the Hinterlands and is wondering what everything is.
Details
To help Jack discover the magic of Christmas Town you must shoot everything! The base value for every switch starts at 40,000, but hitting any of the JACK standups increases this value by 5,000. The mode only lasts 30 seconds and you must score at least 2,000,000 to complete and end the mode.
Scoring
Frenzy Base Value 40,000
Increments to Base Value 5,000 / each
Lighting
The lighting in this mode is mostly just festive and fun and meant to distract the player. The JACK targets will be flashing yellow and will ALL flash green briefly when one is hit to indicate the increase in the frenzy value.
Difficulty Adjustments
Very Easy 40 Seconds - Goal of 1,000,000 Points
Easy 35 Seconds - Goal of 1,500,000 Points
Normal 30 Seconds - Goal of 2,000,000 Points
Hard 30 Seconds - Goal of 2,500,000 Points
Very Hard 25 Seconds - Goal of 3,000,000 Points
Quoted from MarkInc:Currently programming the rules.
Been working with Kris (Gemini) from our league on rules.
He took a few rough ideas and fleshed them out adding modes for all the characters and holidays and some neat ideas for wizard modes, combos and 2x/3x scoring shots. 43 pages and counting!
Here's a brief overview:
Character Modes
Jack - What's This?
Frenzy mode where all switches award points and some increase the point value
Jack - Where's Jack?
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
Jack - The Scientific Method
Advanced multiball which starts with 2 balls but can be brought up to 4 (excluding add-a-ball)
Sally - Sally's Stitches
Spinner shooting mode
Doctor - A Marked Improvement
Clear major shots to win
Mayor - I Can't Make Decisions!
Must make a travelling shot, but it travels really fast, thus you have to shoot the mayor to hold it in place
Zero - Go Fetch!
Make random shots
LSB - Kidnap the Sandi-Claws
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
Hinterland Door Modes
Valentines - Love is in the Air
Increase the spinner value by clearing lit shots/targets
St. Patrick's - Pot o' Gold
Use the pops to fill the pot of gold, then shoot for the Hinterlands to collect, can only collect once in the time limit
Easter - Easter Egg Hunt
Certain major shots will have eggs hidden for points
Independence - Fireworks Festival
Standard 3-ball multiball mode
Halloween - Trick or Treat!
Complete the LSB target bank as many times as possible but don't bug Doctor Finklestein!
Thanksgiving - Harvest Frenzy
An inverse frenzy where only one shot will award points but the value awarded is increased by all other switches
Christmas - Naughty or Nice?
Standard 2-ball mutliball mode where two shots are lit at all times, one worth a few points, the other a lot more
Oogie Boogie Modes
Bug Bash
2-ball multiball mode where each standup target starts at a high value and decreases in value each time it's hit
Santa Vs. Oogie Boogie
Try to escape from Oogie Boogie by getting the ball off the playfield down a hole
Sally Vs. Oogie Boogie
Health-bar limited mode where health goes down constantly and must be recharged by making shots
Luck o' the Dice
Roll the dice as many times as you can without going over a cumulative value of 32
Jack Vs. Oogie Boogie
You must clear all the lit shots in a very short time limit while shooting the spinner to get more time
Oogie Boogie's Unravelling
Unusual 3-ball multiball frenzy which can't be completed until you're down to one ball
Wizard Modes
Characters - Deliver the Presents
Health-bar limited mode where you must make certain shots while avoiding certain shots
Doors - Holiday Rescue
Find random holiday individuals and return them to their proper realm through the Hinterlands
Oogie Boogie - Mega Oogie Showdown
Battle Mega Oogie with unlimited balls until someone wins
Ultimate - Christmastime in Halloween Town
Timed multiball frenzy where the more different switches you hit, the greater your scores are multiplied
Features List
Toys
Running value advanced by the pop bumpers which factors into your bonus, as well as the Deliver the Presents wizard mode
Mystery Award
Gives "random" awards based on the state of the game
Add-a-Ball
All multiballs allow for one add-a-ball, qualified by hitting the mystery target and collected on the graveyard shot
Gate Keeper Multiball
Secret 2-ball multiball where you must bash the gate down with one ball and get the other ball past in the brief moment it's down
SANTA Award
These lights get more valuable every time you complete them over the course of the entire game
2x/3x Shots
The Soup Shot opens the shooter lane diverter briefly, upon getting the ball in you can multiply the scoring of the next major shot you hit
Soup Scoring
Hurry-Up started every 100+ spinner spins where you must make the soup shot for lots of points
Combos
Whenever you shoot one of the 10 major shots, the other 9 will light for a combo potential, with each shot made clearing the combo light
This is Halloween
Video Mode which plays like DDR or Guitar Hero, awarded as the third mystery award (then every 5 following)
And here's a more detailed look at one of the modes:
Character Mode - "What's This?" Frenzy Page 14
Brief Description
30 Second timed frenzy mode where almost all switches award points. Hitting any of the JACK targets increases the frenzy value. You must reach a target score to complete the frenzy and progress towards "Deliver the Presents".
Scenario
Jack's fallen through the Christmas Town door in the Hinterlands and is wondering what everything is.
Details
To help Jack discover the magic of Christmas Town you must shoot everything! The base value for every switch starts at 40,000, but hitting any of the JACK standups increases this value by 5,000. The mode only lasts 30 seconds and you must score at least 2,000,000 to complete and end the mode.
Scoring
Frenzy Base Value 40,000
Increments to Base Value 5,000 / each
Lighting
The lighting in this mode is mostly just festive and fun and meant to distract the player. The JACK targets will be flashing yellow and will ALL flash green briefly when one is hit to indicate the increase in the frenzy value.
Difficulty Adjustments
Very Easy 40 Seconds - Goal of 1,000,000 Points
Easy 35 Seconds - Goal of 1,500,000 Points
Normal 30 Seconds - Goal of 2,000,000 Points
Hard 30 Seconds - Goal of 2,500,000 Points
Very Hard 25 Seconds - Goal of 3,000,000 Points
Amazing! This is going to be fantastic!
Very cool Mark, I will be watching with great anticipation as you continue on the game.
Are you using a DMD or color LCD for the animations, etc?
Will you be making animations from the movie?
Huge possibilities with this theme!
Quoted from luvthatapex2:Very cool Mark, I will be watching with great anticipation as you continue on the game.
Are you using a DMD or color LCD for the animations, etc?
Will you be making animations from the movie?
Huge possibilities with this theme!
There is a list with the very first post covering what he has planned
Quoted from wcbrandes:Just love the layout, sooo much better than MG RAZA or AIW. Also have you thought about possibly using a non license theme and a really good artist
Well, it's hard to think of anything else when the theme has been the inspiration for the past 2 years.
A bit stuck on the artist bit. I talked to Jeremy a few weeks ago, but I'm not sure if license, time & $$ are a problem.
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