Quoted from dpadam450:Maybe. Not sure either are cutting into general pinball sales or Stern's sales. He would have been smart to be under stern pro pricing, like $6,500. Choosing his brand (not just theme), over the established Stern or AP brand is a tough sales pitch. I think it would be easy to walk past BBQ and Ninja at TXPF and subsequently keep $7k safe.
For sure. Neither causes any kind of blip to Stern sales. I played BBQ and Jaws back to back a couple days ago and for me at least they are not even in the same ballpark for even basic enjoyable play. That said, I do understand there is a definable group of enthusiasts who seek out unlicensed games. If that group is maybe 200 people, AP now has to compete even in that niche of a niche at a price point that was thought to be their own.
Quoted from Charlemagne1987:Turner doesn’t have a track record, where AP does. Of course that also means Turner doesn’t have any of the baggage that AP has. And, in my opinion, Ninja Eclipse is a way better theme than BBQ.
Right, no track record first game should be bring a lot of cautious speculation. But they both will be side by side starting at TPF. It will be easy to compare. Just on the face of it, Turner has a more interesting theme, a layout with more mechs, better video assets (unless you have a kink for meat cutting p0rn?), better looking cabinet with powder coating, etc etc. I am buying neither, but am still interested to see how this plays out.