There's no doubt that you (and Josh when he was with AP) are the most present and responsive rules designer on Pinside. And a big part of why I'm certainly looking forward to the launch of GTF.

This was always something special that they asked people for ideas. I remember the shaker integration in hot wheels... at a point somebody said it would be cool like having the feeling of a starting engine when the race starts.
In the next patch it was integrated in the code.

Damn thats exactly the point were a game is getting really special for yourself.

AP always stayed in touch with the people and always refined the code of older games. Best example is houdini...
This one is still integrating the chinese water chamber mod while during its mode. In the last patch so many lightshows got even better.

I made some 3d buildings for hw and put them on thingiverse free for all and some AP guys liked it on my channel. How great is that... (Btw. never got a single tip from this community for downloading).

It was never a bad communication or interaction with the people and tbh it couldn't be better.

Remembering brenna that always tried to fix your problems. I had a dropped machine and my distributor gave a shit about the cracked cabinet. Without the good service and support of AP this problem wouldn't be solved.

Just one person has a strange way of talking with the community especially in podcasts. Getting people excited... Like having a jump ramp on hot wheels... Making a homebrew contest... criticizing streamers that discuss a game (while promoting it for free)... And so on...

But the guys behind that company are the best.

New teaser just posted to Pinball News

https://www.pinballnews.com/site/2023/03/11/galactic-tank-force-third-teaser/

Factory tour video also posted to their Youtube channel.

I think this trailer is great! AP is going over the top with teasers, which I like. The tank tread attachments, I’m assuming, will be only for the deluxe edition. Keep ‘em coming AP!

OK I'm assuming the turret will be removed and re positioned to become the topper when the head it up? From the peek you can see they have their own version of Expression lights. Honestly I can do without the tank treads, but this game keeps looking like it could be great. Nordman is certainly capable of anything.

One word “disappointment”. No images of the playfield or trailer of the ball flying around the shots. The cabinet looks cool and love the color. It looks like it will be a pain in the a** to raise and lower the back box everytime I want to play. I do not see why no playfield images. Why are they delaying this? This worries me they are not showing anything. I only hope the game play is amazing

Please try to relax.

OMG.... ! LOOOOOKS PERFECT for a DUDE like me !

Damn... i love this, also the teaser was pure comedy ! Hell yeah... this is cool. I am hyped.... !

We appreciate ya being here @Ferret! I followed OKT pretty closely right after release and your interaction with people about that game were / are very similar to the was Josh was with Houdini. The Spooky crew are also very similar and it's one of the many reasons I try to support both companies as much as possible.

ummmmmm…W H A T .

He's a legend and a true asset to the pinball community but I don't think LTG has any official capacity with AP. He did have a support position with JJP until the were idiotic enought to end that and is still officially supporting CGC (I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm inaccurate here) but the support he provides for other games is just out of the kindness of his heart and love of the hobby.

Whole new meaning of "built like a tank"

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American Pinball: our games are built like a tank.

Loving the theme. Not a fan of the side aprons, and what the hell do you do with the turret once you lift up the back box? Great tease cause it leaves me with questions that need answers. Hoping the playfield and game play is amazing, been looking forward to this coming out…hope they crush it!

Even John Popaduik and Bobby Mueller would think this isn't a good use of development time and money.

When the game is set with the head up, the end of the cannon will be pointing straight up and turn into a flashing/rotating light of some sort as a topper.

Now I’m looking at it more this might. Be their top of the line their LE model. At least I hope it is. If this is the entry I could not imagine what the LE would look like let alone the price of this machine.

Looks like something bangerjay would create for the pinball Olympics. Can't wait to see more.

Sure hope they don’t wait until Texas. I think it would be stupid to wait 2-weeks after teasing the cabinet and getting so many eyes on your product. They need to keep accelerating out of the gate by showing the full game, opening orders and orchestrating some great streams right up to TX. Trade-shows are completely overrated for getting actual orders in pretty much every industry.

Yep, Rosh confirmed that in the other thread. I guess it was wishful thinking on my part that the turret would go on top when the head is up and become a MASSIVE topper.

Looks like a redemption game with all of that crap...no way that would end up in my game room.

I must of missed that that would be pretty cool. This cabinet I don’t know what to think it’s so different.

My apologies mate, you do a great job and i'm sorry i left you out. There are some other people here from other companies too that take a role, but less than yourself or Josh that i notice anyway.

It has too many buttons.

Never used them in my P3 and hated them, can't use a magna save to, well, save myself. Reaction times are way to slow for that shit.

Save the extra buttons for video games, pinball is supposed to have two buttons.

If the third button is needed for the gameplay i'll be out.

I don't know if i could use it at this stage. I couldn't use the third flipper button on my P3 except when launching a ball, i was never quick enough to use it at other times.

Other people don't have that problem, and i've seen people use magna save plenty of times, but i doubt i've ever successfully done it.

Shadow has 4 buttons, one of the best games ever made. Pinball is supposed to have 2 buttons is nonsense.

Agree I love the Shadow also. I do wish they had the buttons like the shadow with one in front of the other instead of on top of each other. Just feels more natural to me.

Play several games actively seeking use of the third button rather than missing it and instinct will start to set in. At least that’s how it worked for me…

It's never worked for me before.

I just don't use the other buttons.

Hold the flipper up. Trap the ball. Press the 2nd button. Easy peasy

Not much use for magna save your theory.

Is it ok for me to say i don't like extra buttons and can't use them or do people just want to make out i'm lying?

Move along with your conversation without trying to fix me, i just expressed a view the same as other people here have.

Impressions:

1. Looks like AP is on the hotrail/pinstadium train with this release.
2. No lockdown bar button is bucking the trend.
3. If the tank tread sides are deluxe-only, those cabinet side are going to look very plain.
4. Those squared-off leg tops are not attractive.
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5. AP really needs to spend more than $1.47 on their trailers. I'd bet ZMeny would make them a deal to turn out teasers/trailers with higher (let's be honest - 100x more) production value if approached.

Already have had an order in for GTFo for a while now on the strength of Nordmanite alone, but want to see THE GAME now.

2. AP doesnt use lock bar buttons. They always use a 2nd flipper button.

Bucking.
The.
Trend.

Thought with a pro like Nordman at the helm, they'd get on the train (er, tank?). They've become popular for a reason.

I mentioned it earlier but the SDTM boys did a funny reveal video for Hot Wheels for AP, posted it and then were told to take it down so the Deadflip stream would be the first reveal, it was all a PR mess and I don't think they'll go back to that any time soon, of course water could be under the bridge by now too.

Any mag save button belongs on the side of the game, review the BKSOR thread for how well moving it to the lockdown bar was received.

I'm not disagreeing with that. Using the lockdown bar button for magna save was unwelcome, naked cost-reduction by Stern.

I'm just saying that AP STILL not having a lockdown bar button is ignoring its proven value in location play. Casuals LOVE it to start the game and launch the ball, plus whatever else the code may do with it after that. The worth has been proven on the dime of other manufacturers. If AP is serious about courting operators, all AP machine should have a lockdown bar button going forward.

I totally agree with this. Ever since I started playing pinball, I've hit the buttons a couple of knuckles down from my fingertips. That means my normal playing position puts my fingertips in the area of the second button on Munsters and AP games. This really sucks and I wish it was set up like Shadow instead. Hopefully the purpose of the second button isn't some limited item like a magna save or smart bomb otherwise I will be wasting them by hitting the lower button by mistake...

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Got BKSoR here on loan again and i've never successfully used the button. I've given up on that one too.

If it's a similar function to boom on DP or shoot on NBA Fastbreak i can probably use it, but if it takes reaction time like magna save, third flipper etc i don't stand a chance.

I hate that lockbar button on my BKSOR Premium... they could also save this magnet feature completly. You never hit it in time...

But the funny thing on regional turnaments is to watch people missing it 100% too and still thinking they are to slow

Pedal solves that problem completely. Try it, you'll love it on BK:SoR.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/action-button-foot-pedal-for-bksor-godzilla-etc#post-6616394

Totally forgot about that. Maybe that's water under the bridge, maybe not. I hope it's old news and ZMeny would take the job if asked, because AP CLEARLY needs the help with promotion.

The ball save worked on the original BK because the ball moved so slowly. You had time to think about it and the magnet had a good chance of grabbing the ball because it moved slower. There were times it actually pulled the ball upwards and saved it. On BKSOR the ball moves so fast there is no time to react on 99% of the outlane losses and even if you did the ball would slip by because it was moving so fast. I was one of the first people to install a button on cabinet of BKSOR and even with it right next to the flipped button I was lucky to save one ball in a game.

We're gonna need a bigger magnet.