It ain't Fathom that's for sure, but better than Avengers i spose.

Yes. I have Scott’s artwork on my GOT. Love it.

It even has Bruce Jenner?? Oops I meant Kaitlyn….

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Just when you think you are out they reel you right back in!

I love my Oktoberfest. She ain’t a beauty but she looks a lot purtier when you put your “beer goggles” on

Love the AP quality and cab style. Not really that much in Oktoberfest either, a fun and different layout.

The beer barrel lock “mech” is just a piece of plastic sitting on the rail. The beer meister that collects the plunge is decent but doesn’t do much else. It has great ramps and well placed magnets

This game looks like a winner to me. Gonna watch a little stream, go on Jackbar reviews and pick one up

Got mine yesterday!

That's pretty hot for a Viking woman!
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I think my hang up right now - and this is only based on one stream, so take that fwiw - is that the LCD animations don't seem like they got a major upgrade with the AP involvement. I'm sure there's more to see, but with the static images and same fonts coming over from the proto I'm a little underwhelmed. I haven't played the game so maybe the critique is premature, but I had hoped that having AP involved would mean improvements to the animations - especially at the $8400 price point.

I'm at the point that if it's super fun to play, I don't even care about the art and animations that much. Nobody else around me will have one and I will! But, it has to be super fun to me, or no dice!

I also got one today. Nice piece of marketing collateral and I look forward to reading it.

And this is a totally logical counterpoint to my critique above. If the gameplay is great it's certainly easy to ignore the screen.

Page out of the munsters handbook

Thank you for your support! I know you’ve been interested for a long time and you will be pleased. 4 years in the making!

Is that really true? I don’t know how they can do that when my guess is a lot of the people that bought one of the 300 is because they thought there would only be 300.

Agree.

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Says only 300 on their flyer. Plus distributors still have them available.

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Hell, some of my favorite games have no screen!

If they go back on the deluxe 300 and make an additional 200 I'm grabbing some popcorn cause this is gonna be a fun show to watch.

It’s not like it was a numbered LE….just bling. Doesn’t bother me, congrats to the team.

Nitro still shows ‘many in stock’; hell, they are still selling Ultraman CE spots so I’ll take sellout with a grain of salt.

People have been ripping on GZ artwork (watermelon GZ anyone?), the plastic mechagodzilla thing on the pro is weak, etc etc. I bet that Odin looks much better in person than the pictures. All metal ramps with wireform returns, full RGB, real backglass, player controlled hammer and drop target......

It's an unlicensed property but they definitely have to pay for the 23(!) custom music tracks. I'm looking forward to playing it

Stern and jjp have increased numbers. Nothing new.

Looks atrocious-more fun rubbing one out

Except that their own promotional material actually says: “300 Limited Deluxe Models”

I agree . Once the company sets a number - and sells out in part based on that limited number - upping the production is a douche move because those initial sales were in part achieved through dishonesty . That’s the real thorn to buyers - whether or not they genuinely like the game - they were lied to and thus falsely rushed to purchase .

Could also just be fake news.

Then buy a GZ, F Stern, I’m done with them. Cheap build quality, they feel like shit compared to AP and JJP. I want modern pins that feel like B/W’s, Sterns never do

PS. Not every zombie yeti playfield is a winner in my books, LOV’s art looked great to me today when I played it, lighting was fantastic. Go buy a GZ pro or Prem and have fun with your purchase and stop trolling this thread and every JJP thread.

Geez guys...
The good news is there are 4 healthy companies producing pins in the US. Some bigger, some slower, but as long as we get product, new ideas, mechs, and art....at least we get games.

Pin market is growing. Locations are becoming more solid even during/after covid. Let's all be happy games are coming and competition will raise the bar.

Lets get a killer AIW going...

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Guess not. Kingpin saying 500 on the other thread. That’s dumb. Why stop there? Why not 1,000?

Making unlimited games of a good title is good business . But not after you’ve sold out of a self stated limited run .

That’s totally fucked up for AP to pull that garbage. I jumped in on a deluxe edition because of the fact that it was so limited. Resale value is important to me when I buy a game. The limited versions hold their value much better.

300 was a really sweet spot to create FOMO on this one. If they came out of the gate with 500 deluxe models, I would have likely passed.

Debating on staying in on this game now. I’d imagine that any distributor would have to honor a refund now after false advertising.

I just lost a ton of respect for American Pinball. What a dick move.

Give these guys a break FFS.

I think it’s great they have the demand for this game. So they underestimated it a bit.

If you don’t want it now then get a refund.

At least AP finally woke up and offered an LE

Nope. It’s still bullshit. It’s a bad business move. Just because the big boys have pulled these moves, doesn’t mean AP should be stooping that low.

They didn’t underestimate it a bit. It’s a whole lot. They are damn near doubling the amount of limited editions.

Poor form AP. Poor form…

Yeah, c'mon give American a pass on this, they have not had a big hit game yet.

Let them have a small victory lap.
If an extra 200 LE's helps the overall profit margin for the run of this game, then it's a good thing.

We want American to be a Healthy on going concern.
More competition will pay off for all of us, in the long run.

If your only interested in being a Star Bellied Sneech, than you didn't learn a damn thing from Dr Seuss.

Message from the Freeeek Kingdom.

I was always taught to be a man of my word. It’s much more important than money. If I was AP and I said the limited run was 300, then it’s 300. It doesn’t matter how many people are lined up trying to hand me money.

Don't think the extra money from the extra deluxe additions (if this is a real thing) will be worth the cost in reputation. As far as I know, AP has nothing but a great reputation with the pinball community for doing things the right way.

Like with Spooky, that goes a long way to engendering goodwill with the community. And though it's not like AP will go out of business if that goodwill is tarnished if they're able to to produce games people want to buy for the games themselves alone (as opposed to also wanting to support an upstart company).

But it would affect a shift for some from lovable company to cheer for and even stretch a bit to big business you give money if you want what they make, sometimes while having to hold your nose. Not a strategy I'd favor when trying to turn things around and establish yourselves as a company to trust.

That is a possibility. Ultimately though, its good for pinball and all of us if AP has more sales and turns a larger profit.

Don't get me wrong, it's not ideal..
But it's an outside design, unlicensed, and a first attempt at an LE.
It's easy to see American being nervous, and going too small with the 300.

So, I give them a Pass, this time.
Hopefully they handle things more professional on all future Titles.

That’s my point right there. You said “hopefully”. You’re basically saying you don’t trust what they say moving forward. Why should you? AP already proved to everyone that their word means nothing.

Unless this is all a bad rumor. For AP’s sake, I hope it is.

If you don’t like the move from AP do your talking with your wallet. This is probably the fastest they have sold any of their games and might have come as a surprise to them. I think they are doing more people a favour with this move then screwing people over.

Christ man! That got boring by 8th grade

Ah... Let me remember, munster LE was raised up in numbers, Jersey Jack made a Hobbit LE version, smaug gold edition, back arrow, woz yellow brick, emerald edition etc.

AP could have made a Gold Iron edition with 300 and a different coating metal edition... Or a special additional valhalla edition with 200 more and for sure a

"hello kitty strawberry juice party family friendly viking edition"...

I completely agree. It was a short sighted move. Trust has been eroded so what will happen with the next pin and the initial stated amount of LEs? No one will believe what they say and no one will know what to think. They made the decision on the 300 and now they need to live with it.

That would of went over better if they did an alternate or CE vs just increasing on the day they plastered 300 all over the internet.

I have bought quite a few stern LEs and I haven’t seen them add more LEs after they formally announce it. They have added more from previous titles like Mando and Godzilla were both increased but prior to the formal announcement

Munsters, say no more.

Not gonna lie, I would be tempted to buy that theme just for the novelty of it. Nothing else like it in the whole world.

That was right after I started buying LEs.

So Stern came out and formally said 500 and then upped it to 600? there were flyers and ads made stating a different number?

If so, then I guess it will take time for people to be ok with buying knowing the risk or new folks that don’t know.

300 then to 500 is still a limited run. Not to mention we are still at the beginning now if in 2 years they release Ragnarok Edition that’s when I’m throwing the penalty flag.