That's all fine and dandy but I can assure you I'm not buying this and putting it on route here in Seattle.

Maybe I'll be getting a Hobbit after all...

Not for me at all. Hope those excited like it.

Yeah same here. Going to pass on this one.

Do you ask TWD fans if they realize it isn't a documentary and people aren't actually killing zombies? It's a lowbrow soap with some impressive athleticism and stunt work. The appeal is pretty clear. I have a good time with it, but it's not a hill I'm going to die on or anything. Like a lot of entertainment, it works best if you take it on its own terms.

Most people know wrestling is acting too! That's why they call it entertainment.
What's your point again?

Hard to believe everyone here would judge a new pin before they even see the playfield, play the game, or know any information. /sarcasm

You people are amazing. I think it's hilarious that this came from way out of left field and basically blindsided everyone. Not every game will be what you want.

See it, play it, give it a chance. Then hate it if you want to.

Chris

It's not about real or fake it's just a white trash stupid theme. Best case for stern is the pro is some amazing game and we can buy an alternate hot chicks wrestinlg translite. But the pro better be fun amazing.
Honestly this theme will turn dollars to everything else.
They really could have stolen the show with everyone being uneasy. Now MMr,TBL and Hobbit dollars are going to be locked in.
Shame

I think that pinheads will shit all over the theme and Stern will sell plenty of them to wrestling fans. (Yea, there are a ton of them)

It's a pretty nerdy hobby, sci-fi and comics do really well on pinside as do rock themes. I'm not into this either but I have a buddy who might be making this his first NIB.

A friend of mine literally had a tooth crack and fall out last week. I'll tell him to get his funding ready.

Fuck me... Here we go.. Stern just switch there coin door... Good news for me is I carry those big ass plates and can put my headphone kits in them

Right, wrestling fans have that kind of money...

All i care is to see the pf and how it shoots.

Stern has not made a theme yet that i like and gameplay is what matters.

Haven't been a fan of pro wrestling since late 80's, but it seems that the popular ticket these days would be a MMA/UFC theme. Not into that either, just from observing the PPV events advertised in recent years.

I suppose it will feature music from KISS and Iron Maiden with a tag team duo named Fast & Furious to satisfy our speculations

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Can you smell what the Gary is cooking?

Why it's not like the sides couldn't be seen.

I live in the south, and trust me some people don't realize that this stuff is completely scripted. I really don't think anyone believes that TWD is a documentary, or that there are hobbits and wizards. If you like WWE - fine. Up to you.

Exactly. And you got a bunch of likes for saying the same thing. I had some clowns give me "thumbs down" posts for saying the same thing. Gotta love it.

Wrestling... They still do that?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/when-will-next-stern-be-announced?tq=wrestling&tu

The 6 owners of this pin can all have their own private discussion about when the code will be finished.

A buck, or 3 games for $2? I'm sure they can put that together.

Agree - I'm not hating on it. Just not a theme I would ever pay money for to be in my basement.
It might be a great playing game, which I WILL insert money into should one ever show up on location.

Most posts are "I'm out" on purchasing if I'm not wrong. How can anyone comment on gameplay yet?

Wrestling fans won't buy a dozen of these pins! Nor do they play pinball (maybe a dozen or so)

Stern is a rounding error on how much money WWE makes, this could be a throw away marketing trinket for somebody at WWE.

Drop in the bucket.

This decision can't be aimed at pinball fans.

Alot of people will be passing on this title.!!

Maybe this is what Vonnie D has been working on.

That IS the Premium - the Pro comes on cinder blocks.

To everyone complaining about wrestling not being the coolest, you do realize that we're on a website talking about, modding, driving insane distances, buying, selling, pinball machines right? While we have fun with it, I doubt that it's generally viewed as the coolest thing in the world by the general public. There's a Star Trek pinball machine and everyone thinks that's ok. Star Trek.

Wow. Zero interest in this theme. I'm always excited to try out a new game but cant imagine ever owning one but very curious to see gameplay and toys.

Sorry dreamtr but after going through enough games we know theme matters to us. I have had fun games where the theme drives me nuts and it has to go. I get that for some turning all that off works but for many of us that's not the case and them trumps!

Harsh. I no longer watch as the characters do nothing for me but I don't consider myself white trash for partaking in the past. One man gathers what another man spills holmes...

It's cool. I was just messing with you. Will pass judgement when I play it. Maybe cool, may suck balls.

It's an automatic BOYCOTT, it's a built in given

No need to even start the protesting!

Whatever we are talking about fake wrestling ugh!

WWE gets large audiences...but they don't get any decent advertisers (car manufacturers, that kinda thing). They just renegotiated their TV deals. Pretty much everyone is getting HUGE increases for live programming, but WWE sure didn't. Advertisers are very hesitant to spend money on WWE since the audience is larger lower income than, say, an NFL game. So that is a strike against this for Stern. I can talk WWE business pretty much all day long (and especially WCW since I wrote two books on why they died), but I won't bore everyone with those details.

That said, I know PLENTY of wrestling fans who'll spend untold amounts of cash on WWE stuff. So it's possible that they'll sell ok.

I suspect it may be the new operating system i saw in an ACDC about 18 months ago.

This pic is from the ACDC, and there is an awful lot of empty space from the small bit of the backbox we can see in the pics on the first page

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Can the op add a poll:
"would you buy a NIB?"
1. Yes
2. Maybe
3. No
4. No way in hell

Maybe the LE will feature the WWE Divas.

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Yeah. I'm pretty sure you don't get boycotting credit for not buying something you weren't going buy anyway.

Not even announced yet and we've already got "garage door" pics.

Looks interesting. Can't wait to play with the interesting playfield design...

It's cool

It is just sad, I have actually seen people fight over this stuff (when people tell them it is fake). It is really sad. I know that there are pinsiders that are WWE fans, and can see it as just playing/entertainment - many (well I will just speak for myself) see it as a comical and silly. But I do like Star Wars and crap like that - so to each his own.

I think if Gary released "Gary Stern's Tanning Salon" pinball I would be more excited than this.

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Since Kaneda is in self-imposed exile, I'm going to chime in here for him:

When do you think they'll release the WrestleMania VE? And will that drive down the value of WrestleMania?

Anybody actually a WWE fan right now? Im not actually even sure who the stars are right now. John Cena? Iv heard that name. Im just about 15 years out of it.

Remember, there are 3 markets that Gary sells to: OPs, Collectors, and Individual owners. This pin in clearly targeted at OPs, so they don't have to actually SELL this pin to those wrestling fans, as long as those fans are willing to pump a bunch of quarters and dollar bills through them on route.

Royal Rumble (the ppv not the pin) is WWE's official start of their "Road to Wrestlemania" which is at the end of this month. I can see them starting to advertise this then. But you also have to remember WWE and Sterns aren't looking for the HUO crowd. They want the Funzones and other amusement places to get these were kids play games at. WWE is PG now and kids love Cena (The guy in the middle of the back glass). WWFRR (the Pin) was late coming out and has a lot of sub-par superstars on it but has great game play. Maybe this one will be fun to play even though the theme is lacking.

Did Stern really show a new pin at CES with the pf flipped up?

Not everyone is the same though.

You said it, "we" know themes, who is "we" anyway? Pinside????

Are you kidding me?????

Shadow, Demolition Man, Dracula. Those are pins based on "terrible" movies. Games are great though.

The "theme" pins for mancaves that people do try and are car based (Corvette/Mustang) are awful awful awful.

If the game is good I could care less what the theme is. I don't play games based on "theme", if I did that should I say no to Kiss because I like Metallica or AC/DC music better if that ever comes out?

No one should judge or say anything about this game because like I said before with Tron you have people that (especially on here) care more about looks than playability and that is where I see a lot of the complaints coming from.

Tron was a great pin. Some people hated the theme and hated the pin because...they didn't like the theme. Then they realized it was a great pin. So now everyone wants one.

Avengers has a great theme. Pin is subpar.

You see what I am getting at? It's never cut and dry. Seeing the complaining about the theme of the pin just magnifies what I have been saying for years about people being judgmental in the pinball community.

Give the game a chance.

You do know what forums you're on...right?

This reaction is nothing new. Happens *nearly* every game.