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The new Stern game is Wrestlemania!


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#951 4 years ago

I hope they finish the code before ending production

#952 4 years ago
Quoted from PlayPin:

I think a Three Stooges theme would have been a much better choice personally. So much great content available from the movies. Pop goes the weasel sounds. A good comedy theme is way over due.

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Out of all the themes I've heard requested there would be two that I would be jumping on an LE for. Those two are The Three Stooges and Ghostbusters. I imagine Ghostbusters might happen when that new Ghostbusters movie happens, but The Three Stooges, unfortunately I just can't see it ever happening.

#953 4 years ago
Quoted from WaddleJrJr:

Out of all the themes I've heard requested there would be two that I would be jumping on an LE for. Those two are The Three Stooges and Ghostbusters. I imagine Ghostbusters might happen when that new Ghostbusters movie happens, but The Three Stooges, unfortunately I just can't see it ever happening.

3 Stooges, despite its ardent fans - is by and large culturally irrelevant. The flop of the recent Farrelly Bros. movie doesn't help matters. It just wouldn't sell. Ghostbusters is still very much relevant and would be a great theme, a great seller, and a great earner on location.

#954 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Ghostbusters is still very much relevant

So are the Brady Bunch.

#955 4 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

aren't you the guy that way overpaid on the secondary market for STLE as the prices continue to slide?

Nobody is hoarding STLE NIB, there are just a ton that never sold and wont for the original prices.
If you want to pay a premium price for your second pin then go for it, but I can assure you that like the vast majority of LEs (400 is still far from limited) the price will drop a grand as soon as you open the box.

Im also the guy who openly admits this is a disposable income hobby and not an investment vehicle...When it comes to pins, i've made thousands and lost thousands on certain titles.

Just in it for the fun and smiles...

#956 4 years ago
Quoted from Razorbak86:

Ever heard of the guys at Giant Bomb? Video game journalists and internet personalities. HUUUGGGEEEE wrestling fans. All of them 30-somethings and smack dab in the heart of...
... WAIT FOR IT...
San Francisco!
http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/premium/
http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/search/?forum_searchq=wrestling&page=1

I believe Jeff of Giantbomb is actually a pinball fan. He has/had an Earthshaker and he reviews all the pinball arcade/FX stuff. I would be awesome if they did a few real pinball reviews.

#957 4 years ago

Another easy mod: Money in the bank briefcase 3d printed in brown ABS with the sticker slapped on it.

#958 4 years ago

I was thinking Stern would follow up Mustang with Edsel. Close enough...

#959 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

So are the Brady Bunch.

No they're not.

#960 4 years ago

Hey, No one is going to like all the themes, no problem with me. I hope the people that love the wrestling thing make it a success. Gives me more time to save money for a theme I will like. Ghostbusters, Definitely.......

#961 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Wrong strategy of course, they used to have a "monopoly", as in the only pinball maker in the world. Now they don't and market share will keep dwindling IF the demand remains high.
The barriers to entry into this market have been smashed and the flood gates are open because of the prices people are willing to pay for quality.
They should have taken the Apple approach, innovation, "first mover", always providing more value to the consumer, be a leader. Sitting back and playing the prevent defense is a good way to lose, and is actually a loser's mentality.
Of course, that is CLEARLY what they are trying to regain with the new system and some form of some kind of video display.
Great strategy, let the competition take market share that didn't exist a few years ago, makes gains and strides while you sit back and copy what works for them. A good way to find yourself F ed.
Go Multimorphic!

I'm not saying it's the RIGHT strategy. I'm just saying it's a TYPICAL strategy for a company in Stern's position.

BTW, there is one HUGE barrier to entry in the pinball manufacturing market that has not yet been smashed. The capital investment in "the beast" itself...

https://plus.google.com/photos/101765089097091765365/albums/5702001551776417649

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#962 4 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

I hope they finish the code before ending production

Since production of the 100 pros they will sell to distros that will be forced to buy them will end next week, I HIGHLY doubt it.

#963 4 years ago

Does theme really matter if it plays well? I've got a SM at home and I've never seen the movie. Looking for a LOTR and never seen that either. If they do a good job with it I don't care what the theme is.

#964 4 years ago
Quoted from wrig54:

Does theme really matter if it plays well?

Hell yes.

That's not to say I won't own a less than stellar theme if it plays well. I've owned plenty of crappy themes because the pin played well. But how much better would the experience be if it also had a great theme?

So yes, of course theme matters.

#965 4 years ago

I have owned fun games but with themes that just annoyed me so much that in the end it was not fun for me regardless. Maybe not for everyone but for me it matters.

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#966 4 years ago
Quoted from Razorbak86:

I'm not saying it's the RIGHT strategy. I'm just saying it's a TYPICAL strategy for a company in Stern's position.

BTW, there is one HUGE barrier to entry in the pinball manufacturing market that has not yet been smashed. The capital investment in "the beast" itself...

I agree with that, but IF the "profits" are there the "capital investment" will be there.

That has yet to be proven out and I believe 2015 will be the year of the shakeout/shakedown for pinball makers.

Before JJP entered the ring, Stern himself said there was only room for one pinball manufacturer. It's just a tiny market and even the "investors" in Stern didn't do it just for pinball, nobody would.

I don't know what the margins are for them but they will have peaked and will begin to erode as the second mover position catches up with them and I suspect that is why they want to move into "gaming".

I feel Consumer Discretionary is in for a rough ride this year and into 2016, to many global external factors that can deflate the 5+ year bubble ride in the US.

#967 4 years ago
Quoted from wrig54:

Does theme really matter if it plays well? I've got a SM at home and I've never seen the movie. Looking for a LOTR and never seen that either. If they do a good job with it I don't care what the theme is.

If you're expected to pay $5k-$8k for a pinball machine, F*CK YES theme matters. Only if a theme resonates with you are you going to spend that much on it. If it repulses you, you're definitely not going to want it! I purchased plenty of "shitty theme" games that are super duper fun...but they were ~$2k or less. WWE might be the funnest game of all time, but since it's not a theme I care about, I'd never buy one at it's "new" price.

BTW how have you never seen Spider-Man, even by accident at this point? Go watch Spider-Man 1 and 2 right now. Skip 3

#968 4 years ago

Does theme matter??? I enjoy POTC haven't seen the movie. My favorite pin is FT and I never touched a fishing rod. I love mustangs but didn't really enjoy the game play of the pin.

#969 4 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

If you're expected to pay $5k-$8k for a pinball machine, F*CK YES theme matters. Only if a theme resonates with you are you going to spend that much on it. If it repulses you, you're definitely not going to want it! I purchased plenty of "shitty theme" games that are super duper fun...but they were ~$2k or less. WWE might be the funnest game of all time, but since it's not a theme I care about, I'd never buy one at it's "new" price.

I feel like you are now my brother from another mother!

#970 4 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

Kiss will sell tens of thousands of units

What!?

#971 4 years ago

Attitude Era, that's all you had to do STERN that's all you had to do..... NEXT!

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#972 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Since production of the 100 pros they will sell to distros that will be forced to buy them will end next week, I HIGHLY doubt it.

I want to buy this game

I have money/space

I do not trust Stern

I start sentences with "I" often

The wife is cool with an LE. When I told her the LE's are signed by Hulk Hogan she laughed & said "that's funny, pretty cool, how much more is the LE". In the sales world those statements/questions are called "buying signals" lol. Of course I lied to her a smidge on my forecasted $ difference but that's what marriage is all about.

#973 4 years ago
Quoted from Mr_Freshie:

My guess would be the license was cheap and it is an affordable gamble. WWE is waning in popularity, the halcyon days of the Attitude era are long gone and they have competition again, something not seen since the Monday Night Wars with WCW. McMahon needs exposure and is willing to give it away on the cheap. WWE still has some pull with the 11-14 year old male audience but has lost most of its 'educated' adult audience.
Only a guess though...

also they can maybe reuse dmd art from the old WWF DE game.

#974 4 years ago

With Stern already shipping these out on MONDAY, I'd still bet on Game of Thrones in April for the series premier of Season 5. Just my two cents. My two -wishful thinking- cents. Plenty of time to get the MMr's and Woah Nellie's through the assembly line.

I'm approaching this as another Mustang I guess. End of the day, I enjoy playing Mustang and the playfield for WWE looks fun. Whatever, I'm just not going to buy one. As I said earlier I think it would do really bad on route up here in Seattle.

#975 4 years ago

They should have done a women of WWE pin instead with lots of T&A. At least it would of had a chance.

#976 4 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I agree with that, but IF the "profits" are there the "capital investment" will be there.
That has yet to be proven out and I believe 2015 will be the year of the shakeout/shakedown for pinball makers.
Before JJP entered the ring, Stern himself said there was only room for one pinball manufacturer.
I don't know what the margins are for them but they will have peaked and will begin to erode as the second mover position catches up with them and I suspect that is why they want to move into "gaming".
I feel Consumer Discretionary is in for a rough ride this year and into 2016, to many global external factors that can deflate the 5+ year bubble ride in the US.

Perhaps? 2015 will definitely be interesting to watch. Stern has so much capital tied up in production capacity, and it is moving into a new facility which will likely expand that capacity even further. It has every incentive to keep that capacity utilized, even if it means lowering price. If Stern does that, then what is JJP going to do? Is JJP liquid enough to survive a price war?

For new entrants in this industry, competing directly against Stern is like betting against the house in a casino. The odds are always stacked in favor of the house. Unless you have a competitive advantage (e.g., photographic memory, accomplice), if you just play the odds, you run the risk of gambler's ruin over time, due to the magnitude of the house's bankroll.

#977 4 years ago
Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:

in all honesty, this sounds sick!!
Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan will individually autograph each of the numbered WWE Legends of Wrestlemania Limited Edition (LE) machines on a bottom arch mounted gold plaque. With only 400 autographs available, this collectible must be limited to that number of games. The LE game art features classic WWE stars, of course including Hulk Hogan. Actual WWE wrestling action is projected on the LE’s replica “Titantron” playfield level 5.7 inch LCD directly above the ring. The ball is always wild when it comes into contact with the LE’s exclusive "Chaos" spinning DISC while a third “Wham! Arm” flipper allows players to knock the ball off a wire ramp.
Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/More_Details_on_Stern_s_New_WWE_WrestleMania_Pinball_Game_Hulk_Hogan_Limited_Edition.html#uAwkwthOf3UtVqtE.99

Those 400 will be gone immediately. Bank on it.

#978 4 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

Of course I lied to her a smidge on my forecasted $ difference but that's what marriage is all about.

exaggerated, not lied - that's what marriage is all about.

#979 4 years ago
Quoted from SuperPinball:

They should have done a women of WWE pin instead with lots of T&A. At least it would of had a chance.

Yeah, but sadly a thread on the subject wouldn't

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#980 4 years ago
Quoted from RDReynolds:

Those 400 will be gone immediately. Bank on it.

I am not sure about that. Very few Wrestling fans are going to drop that kind of cash for a pinball. And since no premium was announced, pinball collectors that normally spend the big bucks for an LE, will be a little hesitant after the TWD issue.

#981 4 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

The wife is cool with an LE. When I told her the LE's are signed by Hulk Hogan she laughed & said "that's funny, pretty cool, how much more is the LE".

Here, I'll save you $3000.
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#982 4 years ago
Quoted from cantbfrank:

I am not sure about that. Very few Wrestling fans are going to drop that kind of cash for a pinball.

Just to throw this out there, a wrestling fan spent $6010 a on a shirt worn by Paige (meaning there was at least one other rich pervert lined up for $6000). It's not all rednecks of no means.

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#983 4 years ago

Not sure if I am as pumped about this title as this guy would be

#984 4 years ago
Quoted from wrig54:

Does theme really matter if it plays well?

It does to some pinball enthusiasts and ME!!

#985 4 years ago
Quoted from cantbfrank:

I am not sure about that. Very few Wrestling fans are going to drop that kind of cash for a pinball. And since no premium was announced, pinball collectors that normally spend the big bucks for an LE, will be a little hesitant after the TWD issue.

A dude once offered my WrestleCrap co-hort and I $2,000 for the Katie Vick outfit we had. If you don't know who or what Katie Vick is, google it.

Trust me, those 400 machines will easily be sold.

#986 4 years ago
Quoted from wrig54:

Does theme really matter if it plays well?

It does for $8000 brother!

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#987 4 years ago

now picture this,

a super line up of BBB, TOTAN, AC/DC, MET, MM, TRON, insert whatever you want and finally .............. ... Wrestlemania, you just f*ck up everything!

#988 4 years ago
Quoted from beatmaster:

a super line up of BBB, TOTAN, AC/DC, MET, MM, TRON, insert whatever you want and finally .............. ... Wrestlemania, you just f*ck up everything!

I'd take Wrestlemania over all but one of those. I'll let you figure out which one.

#989 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I'd take Wrestlemania over all but one of those. I'll let you figure out which one.

ac/dc.

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#990 4 years ago

Lol at everyone complaining about theme.

A bunch of 45 year old men complaining about theme as home owners when we are less than 10% of the buyers. WWE is a massive IP and the CEO is a marketing legend...

This will work out in favor of stern and pinball overall. It's that powerful.

Stop thinking about your own personal collection and look at the bigger picture...

Plus the layout is innovative and unique! LE is going to knock socks off just wait until you guys see the pics and the LCD screen.... You'll see...

#991 4 years ago

part of me thinks there is a silent majority here on Pinside re: this theme. especially the LE with the classic wrestling artwork. i am not an LE NIB buyer by any stretch (just getting my collection going) but as an early 30's something male i can definitely connect with the LE theming. having a new Stern that looks like a DE Royal Rumble definitely appeals to me! kind of surprised to see the reaction here i would have thought more people would have connected with the classic WWF theme/angle...

but really, pinball has its fair share of what people think are TERRIBLE themes but have fun layouts and gameplay. this is nothing new!

also i'd be curious to see what Pinsiders were saying about themes when WOZ was released? Elvis? Shrek?

#992 4 years ago
Quoted from Jared:

A bunch of 45 year old men complaining about theme as home owners when we are less than 10% of the buyers

Happy birthday! When did you turn 45?

#993 4 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

Kiss will sell tens of thousands of units.

hahaha... that's comedy gold right there

hahaha... that's comedy gold right there

#994 4 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Well what theme (if any) do you like. A serious question not a jab.

Good question. Love real sports, cult movies (TBL, for example), cards, mostly unlicensed themes. A few exceptions would be Rolling Stones (great theme, shitty pin), Family Guy (love MacFarlane and would have loved a Ted themed pin), Matrix, comedies (Happy Gilmore would have been great). Love Shadow, too. Tron floats my boat. PoTC, LoTR, Simps, all good.

#995 4 years ago

I have no clue about modern WWF/WWE. When I first saw this I thought what a waste. Now I see the play field and changes to the platform I'm thinking this might be good. An LE with Legends would be the one to get. Don't judge a book by the cover.

#996 4 years ago

Below is a photograph taken at Wrestlemania 29 on April 7, 2013.

80,676 fans packed MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, making this the 2nd highest attended event in the history of WWE.

Tickets went on sale on November 10, 2012, during which WWE set a first-day sales record of 52,029 tickets, beating the WrestleMania X8 record of 51,620 tickets. Partly due to increased ticket prices, WWE also set a first-day revenue record of more than $10 million, which topped WrestleMania XXVIII's previous record of $6.3 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_29

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FYI, Wrestlemania 31 is coming up (March 29, 2015 - Levi's Stadium - Santa Clara, CA).

Tickets are still available and the prices are VERY reasonable:

---> 3,126 ticket listings offered from $93 to $12,540 each.

http://www.ticketsnow.com/InventoryBrowse/WWE---World-Wrestling-Entertainment-Tickets-at-Levis-Stadium-in-Santa-Clara-3-29-2015?PID=1563093&GCID=1377&keyword=wrestlemania%20ticket

#997 4 years ago
Quoted from RDReynolds:

Trust me, those 400 machines will easily be sold.

I agree and this licence may also bring in new pinball people.

I'm off to Google Katie Vick!

#998 4 years ago

And it's the METLE debacle all over again.

#999 4 years ago

Looking forward to seeing game play footage and more details tomorrow

#1000 4 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

I'm off to Google Katie Vick!

LMAO and OMG

Katie Vick!

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