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The most reliable DMD/MODERN games

By screaminr

4 years ago


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    #20 4 years ago

    My TZ and FamilyGuy are ready to be put on route, both WPC and SAM system in my experience have been super reliable at home for past 4years. Like BigB said just repair it right the first time and you’ll be fine.

    Quoted from SKWilson:

    For the operators who have responded, your responses have got me to wondering about something. Do you keep a record of "trouble" calls versus number of games played?
    I'll give an example. In the bowling industry, bowling centers use a metric called "frames per stop" - a calculation of how many frames have been bowled on a lane versus how many "stops" it has had. The higher the fps, the better a pinspotter/pinsetter is running thus a better turnover on the lanes. It can also call attention to a troublesome machine. A stop could refer to anything which causes bowlers to have to stop bowling: dead wood, pin out of range, pin jam, etc.
    So, I was wondering if operators keep a record of repairs, stuck balls, coin jams, etc. versus how many games have been played on their machines. To my way of thinking, this would be the only way to tell how reliable a machine really is. I don't know. Your thoughts?

    “frames per stop” is a manufacturer term(Brunswick/AMF).

    Being a 82-70mechanic we do keep a record of calls aka stops but it’s nearly impossible to also keep a record of balls/frames thrown. Also many/most calls aka stops for a well maintained bowling center are not due to machine failure.. But instead due to “off spots” and “respots”- which naturally come no matter what.

    #22 4 years ago
    Quoted from SKWilson:

    Where ever it came from, it is a term that has been used in every bowling center I ever worked in.

    I disagree about it being nearly impossible to keep a record of balls/frames. Balls are usually metered in some way. Either by old-school analog meters or by the scoring system. Yeah, they may not be 100% accurate, but you can get a close estimate as to how many balls have been thrown. And, as I said a stop can be anything that halts play. In pinball, that could be a stuck ball.
    In any case, I was just drawing an analogy as a possibility to see how reliable a pinball machine really is.
    And, 82-70s are pretty awesome machines. I only worked in one center that had them (the others had As or A2s), but they were super reliable.

    Totally get it, different centers use different terms. Both head mechanics st each house I’ve worked under felt it’s not accurate and just keeping track of stops was more than efficient. And I agree.

    Anything is possible but it’s nearly impossible to be accurate enough to measure FPS and have any credibility. Too many factors including lineage, number of lanes, are we counting practice?(10min before each league) usually on strike cycle. Respots and offspots? are calls that need to be immediately addressed and halt play even though it’s not a machine error. Hence, FPS being a manufacturing term because it’s in a controlled environment and it helps them sell you the next model because it does 5000fps compared to the 3500fps model from 10years ago.

    To answer your other question- I highly doubt pinball operators keep a record of a ball getting stuck or a coin jamming etc.

    I assume most good operators will fix the issue as soon as it arises and/or might make a mental note of something they need to adjust later. Seems silly to mark a log of a ball getting stuck or a coin jamming- unless they are unavailable/away- possibly an employee would make a list for the Op. Only thing I can see keeping a record of would be spare parts/parts order for a large route.

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