I'm so over this.....so a one off, great! The licensing trolls are seriously ruining the modding spirit.

No one will ever do anything with this IP but hey don't touch or will send you letter!

Not sure they are trolls, but those that own IP for movies and TV, want a reasonable return on their efforts. Most understand they won't make much money on licensing for pinball, but they still want a minimum guaranteed amount since despite what many think, there is a real cost to them to license their IP. They still have to review and approve every single thing that is uses the IP in the game (and in some cases the actors do as well), there are legal costs, finance costs, administrative costs, etc. and they want some return on that investment of resources, since there is an opportunity cost. So doing a re-theme kit, of a licensed property of this type, would be very hard to do. Based on the number of units of this you might be able to sell, you are probably looking at a licensing cost of $250 to $500 a kit.

I understand what you're saying and that it is what it is. But to me, once an IP has earned HUGE profits they should just "turn the other cheek" on piddly little small market hobby stuff......across the board. But god forbid they miss the opportunity to grab another nickle.

The Matrix franchise has earned $1,632,989,142.

Of course the Star Wars franchise has earned over $27,000,000,000 and now that Disney has a lock on it, it will be even harder for anyone to produce Star Wars items. They paid 4.05 billion.....and that was a steal considering just Star Wars toys and games brought in 1.5 billion last year alone! OK.......now I'm just rambling.

I definitely get your desire to play what looks to be an awesome game (and to get a copy of the code). I think the issue for Pinnovating is they've likely already skated up to (and perhaps well over) the fair use exception with this project. For personal use, there's a fair amount of leeway. Distributing a product incorporating someone else's IP without permission (even as a legitimate gift, and not a "gift" in exchange for an obviously bogus "donation") likely puts you on the wrong side of the law. If they've heard from WB (or just realized that their initial approach could lead to legal trouble) I get why they wouldn't want to distribute any further copies of the code.

Looking at things from another perspective, it's also possible that the current owners were told that only X copies would be made, and might be upset if Pinnovating facilitated additional copies being created.

So, the best way around that maybe to write code automates the stripping process. They have to go buy the DVDs and soundtracks themselves and personally strip the IP material? Sort of like what MAME does.

Ok - it doesn't look like it - but I have to ask - is this JM remake available as a kit?

Nope

I love the sound track in this game, played good at the Chicago Pinball Expo

Stamina ......

I rarely can pull this off on my matrix, but when I do it feels so good!
But peer is still the master of backflip on the matrix.

I never even knew!! I wish I would of tried it when I owned jm.

Uhmmmm....nevermind.

The Holy Grail of my collection! The best looking pin ever!!!

tease

Had a great game on the matrix yesterday and finished the agent smith mode using the backhand to left loop technique 5 times in a row as demonstrated by peer, ultimate thrill and joy.

finished with a 1,2 billion score good for highscore 3.

One of the cooler rethemes out there.

Would LOVE to see this game made available as a kit.

Pinnovating....make it happen!

I am confused as to why they wouldn't seek a kit license? This would be huge.

As a proud owner of a JM, I'd turn it into MATRIX in a blink of an eye!

Because you don't just go out and buy a license and you're done. The entire artwork approval process is a lengthy one and the entire game would likely have to be redone.

Aside from that, they've built a handful of these and sold them at a premium based on that low production number. They can't screw over the folks they sold those to by suddenly producing a larger number. Pinnovating has made it more than clear this project is done. No "kits" ever. Stick a fork in it. If you do get a chance to play one of the handful of these that are out there (about 10?) consider yourself lucky. It was a very well done retheme.

licensing costs I suppose. The kit would probably cost more than a JM :/

I held onto JM in hopes it would happen....but I didn't think it would, so I sold it :/ Great game originally, but odd theme. The Matrix theme would be killer. I'd love if they could actually make the game from scratch and sell I love the matrix.

Yeah... JM has a great game but what bothers me most is the overall look of the cabinet and translite..... I'm currently looking for an alternate translite for mine!

I consider MATRIX the second best movie franchise/trilogy ever! STAR WARS being the first!

Just get the matrix translite People were confused when they played mine...but it looks good and well...besides the dolphin noise, the translite still works with the theme.

I was holding out for a little while but gave up over a year ago. Traded JM for JP and then traded JP for an Apollo 13.....I'm happy.

Fixed that:There is no dolphin.jpg

I don't think there's an alternate trans. Is there?

Unfotunately never seen one either, but hope never dies!

LOL!

Yeah, I would love an alternate translight too - I hate how dark the JM one is.

Recently somebody contacted me about buying my the matrix pinball machine.
Told him to make me an offer but he never did.
But this got me thinking about selling the matrix, not in a rush to sell it but just curious if somebody is interested in buying my the matrix pinball machine and make me a serious offer.

Would you send it to Brazil?

Yes I can ship worldwide but I will say this: if you want it shipped you have to trust me because I will only ship when payment is made.
People in the dutch pinball community know me and some probably will vouch for me but that does still mean that you have to trust that I am a honorable seller.

Well, have any idea on the shipping costs?

As long as your name isn't Kevin!

not really sure on shipping cost but if you are really interested that is something we can find out easyly.

@grumpy
The big difference is that the matrix is already build

I was thinking about the other Kevin!

I've still got Matrix prints available for sale. Drop a line!

matrix.jpg

Then I don't know who you are revering too.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-the-matrix

I would think with pinflation and the going rate for a list WPCs that kits for conversions would easily sell in the 6k range