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Post #1907 Service bulletin noting lock down bar change Posted by Jarbyjibbo (6 years ago)

Post #4404 The Valinor Strategy Video Posted by CLEllison (4 years ago)

Post #5383 LOTR documentation for silicone rings and LEDs Posted by Daditude (4 years ago)

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#941 7 years ago
Quoted from BeaglePuss:

You are the man!
I have some other things to order through Pinball life regardless, so this works out nicely.

The original screw has a serrated face, I assume so it will not vibrate loose. You might want to throw a lock washer on there.
https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Washer-Finish-0-1500-0-2950/dp/B000NSGQK2

Pinball Life also has these screws if you don't care which style screw head you use.
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=235

It may not matter much since Balrog doesn't have the same vibration a flipper would.

1 month later
#1048 7 years ago

I think the Balrog led is 12v so the fire led would not work. Comet sells this bulb, http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/5smd12vba9s.htm. If your machine is early production and you still have the 89 socket you can probably use any flasher bulb.

#1050 7 years ago

If the 13 SMD tower will fit height wise I don't see why not. You will have to change the lamp socket to be an 89 which is just the reverse of this stern service bulletin, http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/downloads/sb148.pdf.

4 months later
#1441 7 years ago

The manual lists the bushing for balrog as part #545-5070-00.
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/545-5070-00

4 months later
#1691 6 years ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

Thanks, agree with you on the cards thing: found one good single card I liked, but no pair that was great....

You might have seen these but this is my favorite set so far. The quality is great and I think the colors fit well with the machine.
http://pinballboy.com/rulecards/lotr-v1?rq=lord%20of%20the%20rings

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#1693 6 years ago
Quoted from horseflesh:

If you are card shopping, here are the ones I made.
Hmm, looks like the forum resizes the files... I can find another place to post them if anyone wants.

Those look great. I'd love to print a set and see what they look like on my machine. When you upload the images there is a drop down box where you can select Original Size (no rescaling).

Note: I downloaded the images you posted and they look like they will print correctly once I rescaled them to 300dpi to get the size correct.

2 months later
#1920 6 years ago

The wireform over gollum is mounted to two posts at the front with a washer and locknut. Mine would bounce out because one of the nuts had loosened and the wireform moved around, it needed a new 6/32 locknut. Loosen the two nuts, visually align the wireform with the center of the vuk hole and re tighten.

2 months later
#2095 6 years ago
Quoted from Da-Shaker:

Please help,
I think I have an easy Balrog question. I just replaced the wiring that goes to Balrog's switch and lamp socket. It seems to be working fine, but the light keeps blowing. The manual says it needs an 89 bulb, but the socket appears to be for a 44 bulb. I was trying to use a Ghost Busters led 44 bulb, but I've blown 2. I thought 89 bulbs are wider at the base and wouldn't fit into the socket? I believe it's either the bulb or I wired it poorly. Balrog's light works for 1 game and then blows. Any help is appreciated.

Balrog takes a special 12v bulb with a 44 base.
https://www.cometpinball.com/mobile/product.aspx?ProductCode=5smd12vba9s&404;https://www.cometpinball.com:443/product-p/5smd12vba9s.htm=

#2097 6 years ago
Quoted from Da-Shaker:

Thank you! It looks like they're out of stock and I haven't been able to find another good source for a nice 12v /44 bulb. Is there anybody else you'd recommend.

Looks like cointaker has a similar bulb.

https://cointaker.com/products/balrog-flasher

Here's the service bulletin for balrog incase anyone wants to see it.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/downloads/sb148.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjZ8YK-0eDXAhUm0oMKHevHAXEQFggmMAA&usg=AOvVaw0FIpJwuO4z9TXqKdcoNGpE

#2106 6 years ago
Quoted from PinballTilt:

Is a new socket needed? I bought the coin taker bulb but now I’m wondering if i need a new socket too

The service bulletin is dated April 29, 2004 so if your LOTR was built after that you should have the newer lamp socket.

Does anyone know if you have the larger lamp socket if you can just use a led tower flasher bulb? Would something like these fit and work?
http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/5smdflash.htm
http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/8smdg18tower.htm

#2134 6 years ago
Quoted from pipes:

Mine has the same and I've been wondering the same thing. It looks really faded when lit up and pretty crappy to be honest. It doesn't match the rest of the plastics. Looks like I need to find an original then.

Retro Refurbs has a repro arwen plastic. Little shop of games used to sell one as well but it's out of stock, maybe if you email them they will be getting them back in.

https://www.retrorefurbs.com/shop/arwen-plastic-lord-rings/
http://littleshopofgames.com/product/lord-of-the-rings-arwen-plastic-with-protector-plastic/

#2136 6 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

$45 seems like a lot of money for a single plastic...

I agree. Mine has a hairline crack that no one else notices and it bothers me, but not $45 bothers me. If anyone does have a scan and would share it that would be great.

1 month later
#2386 6 years ago
Quoted from PinballTilt:

I'm so confused when looking at eBay for the figures. Does anyone have a picture of the box or ad of what they bought? I have surfing gandalph and missing a few factory characters. Plus I heard you can buy the army of the dead on there

Search for "armies of middle earth". That is the series from play along that the figures came from.

Gandalf on Shadowfax
ebay.com link: Lord Of The Rings Gandalf the White on Shadowfax Armies of the Middle Earth

3 months later
#2838 5 years ago
Quoted from ryandimx:

Trying to do up my path of the dead. Got these post lightups but they are 12v and the potd interactive lights are 6v.
Probably not possible but is there anyway to bump up the signal or get something brighter than a 6v that would fit under the figures?
I'd like them interactive and not just on the 12v always on.
Below are pictures from my test bench run off a power switcher. They look a little brighter in the picture than how they really are.

Can you use the 6v led signal and a transistor to switch 12v for the lights. There are boost converters that would let you go from 6 to 12 but I don't know what issues if any that might cause running off of the switched lamps.

I wired up that circuit on a breadboard, the switch would be the light going on and off.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ajPW7UfXjB6-jtRiBTZx6ATNQ9JQ903L
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Boost Converter
https://www.amazon.com/MT3608-Voltage-Regulator-Step-Up/dp/B01N9ZVXTR/ref=sr_1_8

#2846 5 years ago
Quoted from ryandimx:

Hmmm... If I would have tried a booster I would probably need one for each signal then?

Yup, one for each led.

2 weeks later
#2972 5 years ago
Quoted from Junglist:

Ok seems to in fact be a bad bulb - I'm thinking of just trying these as the Balrog flasher as they would be cheaper than trying to ship to Canada from the US. Would these work? They look pretty damn close to what I think I have removed currently.
amazon.com link »

Those should work, they look just like the Comet bulb for Balrog. #44 and Ba9s are the same bulb base and they are 12v.

http://www.bulbtown.com/44_Miniature_Bulb_BA9s_Base_p/44.htm

2 months later
#3205 5 years ago
Quoted from Damien:

Cool, thanks!
Can anyone help with this. Was trying to take Balrog apart, and the top of the bulb snapped off. When I tried to remove the base, it's attached by a thin wire.
What should I do?
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The part that's stuck is a blob of solder. Try grabbing it with pliers. If it won't come free you can melt it with a soldering iron.

3 months later
#3501 5 years ago
Quoted from RGAires:

Need some help...
I have an EPROM chip Burner and i was trying to download the code to update my LORD, display and cpu, im still on the V6.00.
Any of you can send me the files, cant find them no more.
Thanks

I have a burner coming for christmas and would also like a link or files if someone has them.

#3512 5 years ago
Quoted from jedi42:

Are they not available on the Stern site?

There's a listing here but I get a 404 error when clicking on download.

https://sternpinball.com/?post_type=game_code&s=lord+of+the+rings

#3524 5 years ago
Quoted from Damien:

Trying to find details on what was changed in older code versions, but can't seem to find any information on it.
Anyone know where to look?

This link has the version 10 roms in a zip file and the readme with the code changes that were made for the different versions.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BqwQFkoWqZMtW6cr-q9MA2fhnzjUZl2O?usp=sharing

2 weeks later
#3569 5 years ago
Quoted from ktownhero:

Who says LEDs ruin the look of this game? [quoted image]

Looks good. What bulbs did you use for the gi?

1 month later
#3888 5 years ago

Are people using the LED OCD GIzmo with led's in the GI? Do they look fine without it?

2 months later
#4275 4 years ago
Quoted from Spacemanratso09:

Looking for some advice.
Looking at a LOTR to buy from a non pinhead
Only machine they own and made a claim it has only been played 15-20 times ever
If anyone can take a moment,was wondering how exactly I could be completely sure of that during inspection.
Obviously the game will be in nice shape and I will ask if they have a receipt as they also say they bought the game “long time ago for the basement”
What would a good price on this game stock and in that kind of condition
I have to pay a friend to help and we are in the middle of negotiations
I hate asking here just looking for specifics on this particular game since I’ve never owned one but always have wanted to
Thanks

Good price 5k. Probably more like 5.5-6k in today's market. I would assume original rubbers so it's going to need a shop job and don't forget to check the batteries.

1 month later
#4432 4 years ago
Quoted from CLEllison:

Funny amazing story. I bought a complete LOTR replacemt plastic set specifically for the shire plastic. Somehow I managed to.lose this piece. A couple years later I'm taking a load of crap to the dump. As Im unloading the crap, I look down and I'll be damned if the shire piece wasnt laying there. Couldnt believe it. I have NO freaking clue what happened let alone how it got there. I appreciate the adding posts and rubbers post. Very helpful. I do believe the shire plastic gets hammered from a poor Aragon ramp shot where the ball ricochets off the rubber posts and slams into the shire. I'm considering doubling the plastic and using belly button style pop rivets to secure with.

Have you installed it yet. If not any chance you could scan it?

#4457 4 years ago
Quoted from CLEllison:

No I have not installed it yet. Was considering trying to reproduce these just not sure how to go about it.

Get a good scan of the plastic so you have the artwork. Trace the outline of the plastic and any mounting holes on a sheet of paper and scan that as well, you can use that to create an outline file to have the plastic laser cut. It always helps to have something next to the plastic for size reference, a ruler works well. The scanned art will probably need to be cleaned up but then you can print it on water slide decal paper and apply it to the plastic. The results usually look pretty good. There are options for direct print to plastic but I've never looked into them since they seem expensive.

2 months later
#4820 4 years ago
Quoted from Gogdog:

Well, learn something every day. I wouldn't have assumed that flashers needed high power but...you were right!
Yeah, just a dead flasher bulb. I still don't see the use of the witch king switch...besides lighting that flasher. Aren't ramps counted as successful with the switch on the sword lock anyway? Oh well.

If I remember correctly that switch adds to the souls you can collect from one of the switches on the path of the dead. They start at 100 and can be bumped up to 250 or 500 by hitting the white switches in the shire, palantir, spot ring, and the sword ramp.

4 months later
#5564 4 years ago
Quoted from K1ngFiasco:

That's certainly the feeling I got. I have no idea what constitutes low or high amounts of play on a game that is about 14 years old (seller claims to have had it since '06). I just wasn't sure if I was missing something that would be obvious to a more seasoned eye. Just a bummer to have a grail game be about 20 minutes away from my house but at a price that seems to be over $2k above market value.

The Arwen plastic above the shire looks cracked, it's common but not at this price. There are also no pictures of the cabinet by the flipper buttons which is a common wear spot even on home use machines. A $5800-6200 offer is perfectly reasonable on that machine, let the seller know your best offer and they can call you if they change their mind.

2 months later
#5792 4 years ago
Quoted from Yodamingus:

Hello
Picked up the palantir mod from AUKraut
A wile back .. it’s awesome and I love it ..
But It has an LED installed behind it
And when it’s activated it flickers on and off
Not the absolute worst ..but I’d love it to fade in and out as I believe should ?
I have incandescent bulbs
I prefer them on this game
Is there a way to have this one LED
.. actually I do have a LED Gandolf staff
So make that 2 LED mods
Fade nice like an incandescent??
I know there’s led ocd unit that I will look into but figured I’d ask for options and opinions
Thanks

You can put a resistor and some capacitors inline with the led. The resistor will control your fade in time and the capacitors your fade out. Easiest place is probably under the playfield where it connects.
Strait power
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470ohm resistor on the + and 320uf cap across both sides. You probably also want a diode in there to keep power from going the wrong way once the lamp turns off. The led will be a bit dimmer than normal.
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#5796 4 years ago
Quoted from Yodamingus:

sorry Im not so quick to understand how i might wire this ..
Is there any way you could draw it out ?
what voltage should the cap be?
is there a particular value of diode i should use?
i guess the reduction in brightness is a small price to pay for no flicker
Really appreciate the advice
Thanks !!

You can probably get away with a 16v cap since the lamps are run on a pulsed 18v and it doesn't burn out a 6v led but I would use 25v to be safe. I think the standard diodes on lamps are 1N4004. You might not need the diode, I haven't looked to see if lotr has diodes at the lamp socket or remote. I was originally thinking of using this same setup to smooth out the flasher above the sword ramp but I haven't had time to play around with it.
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#5803 4 years ago
Quoted from Yodamingus:

I see that you have a 220uf 16v on the bread board
Im having a hard time finding 320uf 25v that you suggested i see a 330uf 25v but im not sure of what that difference would be? 220-320-330?
I understand the voltage tolerance aspect but im not certain of what a difference in uf would mean in this application
i am now searching the internet i hope to gain some knowledge about it
But of course ill have to ask

The 220 was just what I had laying on the bench for illustration. The resistor controls the fade in by limiting how fast the caps charge, larger value = slower charge/fade in. The capacitor value controls the fade out, larger uf value = slower fade out because there is more power to dissipate through the led. You will probably have to play around with the resistor and cap value to get what you want, my source for that test was only 6v so the machine may charge things quicker. If you can't find the exact cap you want you can solder capacitors in parallel which will add their uf values together to get larger values. You could also use a 1k variable resistor which should give you some room to fine tune things without having to resolder multiple times.

#5871 4 years ago
Quoted from WizardsCastle:

Anything I can do to keep that post from continuously coming loose? I tighten and it lasts about 5 games.

Blue loctite
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Heavy-Duty-Threadlocker-Single/dp/B000I1RSNS
A drop of clear nail polish should hold it for a while if you can't get loctite for a bit.

5 months later
#6526 3 years ago
Quoted from DystopicPinball:

Self made and 3D printed with clear resin.
Added inside a rgb slow fade led by Comet Pinball
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Looks great. Are you going to sell them or would you be willing to share the stl?

9 months later
#7370 2 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

Are you timing your plunge with the middle light in the shooter lane? The 3 inserts select your skill shot. Orthanc only awards a skill shot if the center insert is lit when you plunge.

A long time ago someone in this thread mentioned that the skill shot locks in when the ball comes off the shooter lane switch. You can bump the shooter rod to lock in you skill shot selection and then take your time plunging.

4 months later
#7861 2 years ago
Quoted from Gogdog:

Sad.....the top plastic ring of my barad-dur broke off. I don't remember seeing any comments/posts about broken barad-durs in this thread. Am I mistaken? Anybody have an idea how to creatively reattach this without buying another one for $50?
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Take it to the hardware store and see if you can find a finish washer or cupped washer that is a little wider than the hole.

1 month later
#7920 2 years ago
Quoted from blizz81:

My sword lock plunger started acting up after a recent light cleaning of my machine. Intermittent on firing to where when there are two balls locked and I hit a ring shot, on return it counts as a third ball lock & starts multiball.
Other symptom is it has tried to release a locked ball, plunger goes down, but comes back up quickly. Game eventually sat with a sword lock malfunction.
Hand-testing the plunger, it seemed to catch some, and I noticed a little sleeve here that appears to be cracked. When I shifted that a bit, operation got smoother and the game was playing better. I assume this should look different? If so what is the original part / what do I replace with? Did a little bit of searching but no dice yet.
(Should note that I don’t see any sign of trouble with the switches in testing with 1/2/3 balls there)
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The nylon bushing is 545-5418-01, it's supposed to have a split but it still might be heavily worn. I had a worn one on my ngg slam ramp and it wouldn't move smoothly. I'd take it apart, replace the bushing and coil sleeve and polish the plunger to see if that makes it operate correctly.
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1 month later
#8060 2 years ago
Quoted from PBFan:

I remember seeing a mod recently that helps stop the light bleeding from the LEDs on the ring board so that it was easier to determine which ones were lit but for the life of me I can’t find it again. Would anyone have the link? Thanks folks.

Looks like it's out of stock at the moment.
https://www.pinballlife.com/light-puck-for-lord-of-the-rings.html
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-mod-for-lotr-led-puck

#8068 2 years ago
Quoted from F-2NIRO:

Hello
is anyone knows where i can find the both hex spacer with the bracket ( red arrow on picture )
seems hard to find
Thx[quoted image]

The bracket is 515-6508-00,https://pu-parts.com/metal-hex-spacer-mounting-bracket.
The spacer is 254-5008-13B. Marco has one, https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/254-5008-13B, but it's just a 1&5/8 hex post covered in heat shrink to make it black. You could just order a 1&5/8 spacer and paint it or cover it yourself.

#8078 2 years ago
Quoted from WizardsCastle:

First time for everything!
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Never anger an Ent.
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10 months later
#9215 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinkitten:

Ok LOTR friends. I goofed and broke a prong on my (White Star) sound board trying to install Pinsound. It’s the microprocessor at U209. Are these available anywhere, or do I need a skilled person to repair it? The chip refused to come out after 19 years in place, and I bent a few prongs. After straightening they wouldn’t cooperate, and one got brittle and broke off. Ugh. No sound for me for awhile.
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Do you have a pic of the front with the part number? Is it 6809EP. There's some used ones on ebay.

1 month later
#9347 1 year ago

If anyone needs replacement switches for the flat y fork vuk's, the now discontinued Cherry E63, someone on ebay has lots of 5 for $9. You just need to swap the y actuator onto the new switch.
ebay.com link: itm
ebay.com link: itm

#9362 1 year ago
Quoted from LOTR_breath:

I always assumed those type of switch arms were not swappable. Is there a way to easily do it?

There's a small notch you can use a flat screwdriver to twist in and the arm falls off. The screws through the body press it all into place when you install it.
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Old flat actuator on the left, newer replacement using a cherry dB series switch on the right. The dB has the actuator tabs you can pry off to switch them.
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11 months later
#10052 51 days ago
Quoted from Marten:

My Gimli VUK fork switch stopped working. It's part number 180-5116-01 and everyone says I should have a few spares at home.
They are quite expensive with the fork but I figured I could just swap that over from the old switch onto a new body.
Does anyone know what the part number is for just the switch body alone? Thanks.

The old switches that worked with the flat fork actuator were Cherry E63: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-lord-of-the-rings-journey-begins-members-club/page/187#post-7459098

You might want to check and see if yours has the old flat actuator or the newer style. The newer style switches are cherry db5 which you can find on most online parts stores.
Here's a picture of the two side by side. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-lord-of-the-rings-journey-begins-members-club/page/188#post-7468437

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