Quoted from kapsreiter:
my last panel 85,- euro inclusive shipping !!
Quoted from DCFAN:
Is this it? Superbands clear flipper rubbers are close to crystal clear so I would assume the post sleeves would be as well.
Thanks, I emailed Terry and asked if the transparent mini post rubbers were crystal clear.
Quoted from lb1:
Nice one. How do you make the decals printing wise?
Thanks, normally I use the vinyl matte inkjet stickers and then I laminate over the top with a laminate film. For the Shire hole I used a removable sticker then laminate because there was a clear protector underneath. Also, in case I want to change it out later it would be easier.
Quoted from TimeBandit:
The ring-collection LEDs, between the flippers. They are SMD all on one board.
Ahh, then you need the ledocd.com board to customize that LED array. A costly upgrade for that one issue but if you are going to trick out your LOTR with LEDs it might be worth it. I have one in mine but I have not tinkered with it yet. If interested I would check with him first to make sure it actually controls that array as I do not see it listed in the CSV file for the LOTR config.
Quoted from Razorbak86:
Just put a thin piece of opaque diffuser film between the LED ring board and the playfield. Or use a blank piece of white paper, for a quick and cheap fix.
Simple and elegant, there I am overthinking it again. I saw some people had issues with that round piece that has the ring artwork on it, so approach with caution Bandit.
Quoted from joeraptor2003:
I like the way yours came out.
Here is a die cut decal we have to offer also if anyones interested.
Cool, yours was the inspiration for my custom.
Quoted from Yelobird:
Hawknole Thank you So much for this post! I was just putting all my pieces together to do the same setup next week. Just couldn’t pull the trigger on paying $250 for this mod. All in with the Pinbits setup and a flexible eBay seller I should have this done for roughly $75 with your helpful pictures. I do love the Comet Matrix setup, opens up many simple solutions. Thanks for the post and sharing your work! One question, in attaching it to the bulbs did you use their clamps or direct wire it? I was thinking to direct wire each lighted figure to their own bulb (3 of 4 green). Just curious how you made your final connection. Thanks!!!
Hey Yelobird, I used a bayonet matrix quick connect into a bulb hole with a 6" matrix extension. That bulb was basically hidden in the rear left of the playfield, under a little plastic piece. I then tucked the wire with a velcro wire strip behind the ring back panel. The lights flash with the playfield so it works well. I also drilled some holes (not pictured) in the 2 brown bases aligned with 2 or 3 of the matirx LEDs, no need to drill all 4 and be careful of placement due to the stand and light. I might diffuse the light a little in the front figure.
Also, those cables need to be taped to the top of the clear acrylic so the ball can fit. I then tied the 3 way splitter wires to the back of the left rear figure to keep them tight to the acrylic. If you have other questions feel free to PM me. Thanks.
Quoted from Dbaum88:
And then...I was in the club!
Found this virtually untouched LOTR on Atl Craigslist. In an incredible mansion basement 5 miles from me. Owner said it was bought new by house seller, who sold it with the house back in 2003-2004. Couple hundred plays. Looks brand new.
So...what do I need?!? Code? Fixes? Mods? I do notice that balls in left lane on Path of the Dead stays left and fall into left trough area instead of hitting rail ramp.
Welcome to the club. I really do enjoy this machine. The pin looks good. Not sure on code. Mods are solely up to you. My guess is it does not have LEDs so some warm whites from Comet should do the trick. I added some colored ones here and there for effect, most noticeably I colored the fellowship members like others have. I added Legolas, Gimli & Boromir figures above the playfield near their spots. I also added the POTD acyrlic and figures. There are a couple options you have for the ball travel on the Paths of the Dead. There is a plastic diverter that will always send it to the habitrail. I did not go with that option as I like the ball randomly dropping in the Shire hole. Instead when I got my LOTR the final screw in the POTD plastic closest to the Shire along the cabinet was replaced with a longer screw and 2 clear bumpers. I really like the way this plays as I have removed this twice and put it back in both times. I also added the clear ramp from Australia over Arwen.
Quoted from Jarbyjibbo:
It's supposed to. There is a souls payout when it lands there which you miss when you ride the rails. There should still be a plastic/drop protector out there for purchase, I read someone else bought the mold and rights.
Yep, Mike from Australia makes the new & improved POTD/Arwen ramp now. His pinside name is Time Bandit.
Quoted from Neal_W:
While the sound quality overall of LotR is not high, mine does not crackle like that.
A previous owner installed Flipper Fidelity speakers on my LotR, but I don't think that affects crackle greatly. It just gives me a lot of bass and probably a little extra range.
It seems like a poor connection would give crackle like that. Check the solder connections at all 3 speakers, and reseat the speaker connector at the board.
I had poor sound quality on my front panel speakers when the volume was low, then read through this thread:
I verified all plugs then installed a mono LPAD with volume control for the fronts, turned the volume to about 35% and it is much better. Added a pinnovators pinsub board and a Polk sub and my sound is now greatly improved. I am still looking for the dual plugs that connect the front speakers to the audio board to clean up my install, I just don't know the correct size to order from GPE.
I confirmed a noise with the switch next to my ring ramp (aka Frodo ramp). That micro switch makes a strange noise occasionally when activated. It is a low buzz, almost sounds like a short. It doesn't happen every time the switch is engaged and nothing seems adversely effected, just the noise doesn't sound right. Does anybody else have such a noise? If this is normal then I won't bother to replace the switch. Or is there some adjustment I can make to the switch?
Quoted from DCFAN:
I have not seen any mods for that but note that the bulb should be a red coated flasher bulb rather than a clear flasher.
I tried an SMD red flasher there and I went back to the red coated flasher because I thought it looked better. It is the only incandescent bulb in my LOTR. As for a mod, I have not seen one either, not really sure how you could tie something into the bulb socket.
Quoted from gcmess:
I have one at the end of my path of the dead. Helps the ball into the habitrail and from dropping on the plastic. Doesn't stop all the drops but keeps them to a minimum. Not sure it's suppose to be there but I like it. It is a little tight to the wall...but not a big deal.
I just have 2 crystal clear rubbers on a longer screw at the end of my POTD and am very happy with the way it works. I have taken them off twice and missed them both times and quickly put them back on. As a side note, I am also using the Arwen clear ramp and the ball still goes down the ramp into the Shire on occasion.
Quoted from fnosm:
Could you post a picture of your setup that you described ? Both the 2 crystal clear rubbers on a longer screw at the end of my POTD and the clear ramp. I am having a hard time picturing how this would work.
Here you go, double crystal clear rubbers from Pinball Life circled in yellow and the Arwen ramp.
Quoted from pipes:
Based on what I’ve read on this forum over the past year that I’ve been here, it seems that the vast majority of people that get rid of their LOTR end up regretting it. I hear that with this particular game more than any other. IMO, it’s a special game that was made at a special time. It doesn’t feel as though any corners were cut and I get the sense that every effort was made by Stern to produce a quality game. That’s something you can’t really say about most games. This one is a keeper.
Agreed, LOTR is a great game. Deep rule set, satisfying shots, excellent software and super callouts.
Quoted from RobKnapp:
I bought my LOTR 500 Limited edition in January 2010 from JJ . I let it sit in GEX warehouse for a year in the box before I picked it up. Lazy. I scoured the internet for figurines. I was (one) and done basically . I bought like 25 'Play Along Toys' LOTR figurines. I had great intentions . Crappy follow through . I wanted to mount all of them with hobby screws and gold stand offs .
I mounted Gandalf on Shadowfax direct to the plastic With help from the manager of Hobby Town . Look great . But the rest are still in the boxes. I will add that I did mount on the Plastics above the right sword ramp the larger Wrath on a evil horse with Velcro as a TEST and the plastic would bounce from the weight of the Figurine . I was annoyed . Took it off and that was the end of my Play a Long toy LOTR mounting adventure Need onwallst to fire up his Porsche and road trip to Co. Springs for assistance !!
Let me know if you need some pics
Quoted from canea:
Cool, thanks. Figured it was more of a combo shot that I was overlooking.
Glad to join the club on this awesome game. Really does feel more like a quest than an average game of pinball.
Only thing I don't like about it is the Shire upkicker sound. GROINNNNNNNNK. Shire pig? haha
I think it is a Cave Troll grunt, my dog makes that noise so it makes me laugh
Quoted from AUKraut:
The finishing touch: sillyoldelf's art blades for my LOTR!!
Here is the list of things done since the day I bought her last July 4th:
Power Driver Board repair - Done
Ring Mode Opto - Done
Diverter adjustment - Done
Translite lift channel - Done
Replace Backbox lock - Done
Replace Ring plastic - Done
Replace Tiltbob - Done
Replace Palantir Target - Done
Flatten playfield plastic - Done
Replace yellow dome - Done
New Ball Trough - Done
Clean and polish playfield - Done
Refinish metal lane guides - Done
Cliffys Protectors - Done
Titan Silicone Rings -Done
LEDs - Done
LEDOCD - Done
LED GIZmo - Done
NVRAM - Done
Pinbits Plastic Protecters - Done
Arwen protector - Done
Path of the Dead Arwen Diverter - Done
Flipper Coil upgrade - Done
Ring cone plastic - Done
Ring Ramp Post Kit - Done
Army of the Dead - Done
Target Decals - Done
Sword Tip Decal - Done
Missing Gimli, Legolas, Boromir - Done
Solid Lock bar and Lollipops - Done
Black T-Molding - Done
Palantir Mod - Done
ColorDMD - Done
Invisiglass - Done
Flipper Fidelity Speakers - Done
Speaker Ring and Lights - Done
Backbox LEDs - Done
Backbox Flasher - Done
Spare Driver Board - Done
Side blades - Done
Well, almost done, been thinking about Pinsound........LOL!!!
Looking good. Gimli, Legolas & Boromir were not included in any LOTR pin, they are mods. You may consider a Sauron figure in the back right. The Uruk Hai back there bothered me because they are not part of Barad Dur but rather Orthanc.
Quoted from AUKraut:
Correct, that's why I have them in the Mod list, since they were missing from the figures included by Stern...
Hadn't considered Sauron, may do that swap.....
Gotcha. I moved that Uruk Hai at Barad Dur down near the shooter lane as he was better IMO than the other one with no sword.
Replaced my Shire Y switch today as the metal/plastic broke off last night. Also added some foam to the bottom of Orthanc on either side. There was a small piece of foam in the middle, took that off as the ball never really hit it & the outsides of the bottom front are what get slammed with the ball bouncing off from the flipper shots when open.
OK, I need some help please. I replaced my Shire Y switch with a new switch because the metal Y broke off. I was attempting to adjust the old switch as it was not responding. The new switch worked fine for a couple games and then no response. I fiddled with it a little then got some intermittent response and now back to nothing. Bad switch or something else and if so what? I reseated the closest connector as well.
Quoted from trk12fire:
I'd check the solder joints on your new switch. Maybe you have a cold spot or the connection is bad.
Quoted from flynnibus:
test with your hand first... also make sure you aren't over tightening the screws as that will cause the switch to bind.
test with finger... then adjust the rotation of the switch when mounted to ensure the armature moves enough to make the switch click. bend forks if needed to get more travel.
Much appreciated, I will check all that. Thank you.....a few hours later...I pulled out the switch, resoldered one of the joints as it looked less than optimal by me and screwed the switch back in snug but not too tight. Tested the switch manually and played a couple games, good to go, thanks again.
Quoted from RVApinballer:
Again with the Gimli VUK Switch topic haha:
My super low plays LOTR LE has an intermittent gimli switch. Maybe 60% of the time it registers but otherwise can sit in there with no response. I'm guessing the micro switch is fine(but maybe not?). I have a spare switch. But would rather adjust the fork actuator and save $10 if I can. Anybody had luck with adjusting the original actuator?
Bending the Y switch up a little worked a couple times for me and then I broke one side of the plastic off in the Shire hole. Luckily, I had spares. You can also loosen the screws that hold the switch in because if they are too tight the switch can bind and have intermittent problems as discussed earlier in this thread.
Quoted from shacklersrevenge:
One....shot....from....VALINOR. I had it all, I had probably 11 gifts, my mutliballs completed, TABA, DTR shots made, ball hanging, smacked it! It shook and rattled around but not enough to free it. I drained trying about 4-5 more shots at it. All before 7am.
Nice job. Closer than I have gotten so far. ROTK multiball continues to be my achilles heel. I have had the rest.
There is a Mouth of Sauron figure that is an Armies of Middle Earth toy that appears in the movies, it might not fit in that corner though.
Quoted from FlipsMcgee:
Just got a pinsound and installed it. Any recommendations for sound files beyond the one on the Pinsound forums? Also, as this is my first Pinsound, do I have to keep the USB permanently inserted in the board, or does it download the audio onto ram somewhere on the board? I find the instructions to be a bit lacking, though it’s quite possible I am missing them being somewhere.
Edit - I see TheWool made one with positive reviews. Any others?
I am working on a mix but it is not quite ready for prime time and I would call it more unconventional.
Quoted from FlipsMcgee:
I actually tried the other one first. I’ll PM TheWool to see if he’s had others say the same.
Yes, since you are using the pinsound board, volumes on tracks can fluctuate from very loud to very soft. The new version of pinsound studio being released soon is supposed to help manage that. For now, I am using gain.txt files in certain folders. The loud files get a lower setting between 1 & 4. The original sound files from the game are mono and low quality and don't need a gain.txt file in their folder.
Sound track files that the Wool and the OST (Original Sound Track) are using are stereo and higher quality, think remastered music. I have been working with the original files and basically remastering some of them. However, since LOTR has about 1300 individual tracks this is no small undertaking until the new version of pinsound studio comes out. We shall see, I still may remaster all the originals that I put into my mix.
Added 18 months ago: 1300 items including folders, my mistake
Quoted from FlipsMcgee:
Great, thanks for the info. Glad I’m not crazy. Using headphones helps a bit, it never gets too soft that way.
If you do end up releasing something to help alleviate the issue, please let us know!
BTW, my issue with Wool’s is that Pinsound is simply not recognizing it on my USB, even when there are no other soundtracks on the USB. Not sure why, I’ve sent him a PM.
I will let you fellow LOTRers know when I post my mix.
Did you try just putting The Wool zip file on the USB and let the pinsound board process the zip file? I have had the most success with that when updating my personal mix.
Quoted from northvibe:
» YouTube video
The music is fantastic sounding, but the call outs have to be the old ones, so they still sound compressed.
The mix in this video sounds like the OST mix which is a serious upgrade to the music. The Wool Mix is very good and takes it to the next level. The Wool has eliminated some of the more repetitive callouts, however, where they are kept in, for the most part, they are still the original legacy callouts.
With the pinsound+ board I get varying volume levels which I have communicated to The Wool, who has been responsive, so kudos to him. Also, I have communicated this to Nicolas at Pinsound and he informs me that a new version of the Pinsound studio is coming out soon that will help with leveling.
I have logged many hours (30+) on my own mix, so far so good, getting closer. I do have in my mind to upgrade all the callouts, however, I would like to see what the new pinsound studio can provide. I have toyed with 'remastering' the original callouts with Audacity but this is a one by one approach, is time consuming and I have had mixed results to this point. I did also discuss batch normalizing all the files with Nicolas and he did not recommend this, most likely due to the fact that some sounds should be lower or higher, not totally sure.
Quoted from PinballCharlie:
Heads up to all those on my list that ordered the Mt.Doom mod; they all have shipped! If you haven’t already received your mod, look for it to arrive soon.
Man, that sure was fun designing something sweet for LotR - looking forward to my next mod for this pin. Thanks for all the really great feedback I received from many of you. Pinside has a great, passionate community for mod makers
For those that didn’t make the list - you can buy it here on Pinside or my website starting today!
Quoted from FlipsMcgee:
Hold up, you know you can put the original soundtrack for LoTR on a Pinsound, right? Same thing, just much better quality sound.
Here’s the download link:
I currently have 3 lotr tracks on my Pinsound: The original, the Pinsound mix, and The Wool’s mix. I like them all, hard time deciding. You can switch between them easily, especially if you have the mounted headphone set.
How do you switch between the mixes on pinsound?
Quoted from Damien:
I've noticed a lot of games have the Galdalf on his horse figure, but mine has this one. Anyone know why?
I saw an explanation somewhere that the later LOTR's had that Gandalf. Maybe they ran out of stock. I think you can still find Gandalf the White on eBay if interested, try searching Gandalf AOME.
Quoted from Damien:
Does this make any sense...
Tracing the speaker wires, it looks like CN4 is where it all connects.
The kit I got from PinballPro has a molex with 4 female contacts, but CN4 has 6 pins.
However, when I look at the factory molex, it the bottom two spots on the molex are unused, so in actuality, only 4 pinsare used.
Does this look right?
Are you adding new speakers? My guess is this will be fine. If memory serves me correctly, SP3 originally ran to the cabinet and SP2 ran to the the speaker panel via a mono split.
Quoted from Pinkitten:
I just bought an external Polk subwoofer for my LOTR, and the Pinnovators hardware to attach it to the game. Do I need the updated files discussed above? I don't have a problem with the stock callouts and music, because I'm not really familiar with the movies. That being said, do I need the other sound packages, and if I try it and don't like it, how easy is it to change it back?
Also, is there a youtube video showing how to properly attach an external speaker to LOTR? I don't want to mess it up.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Yup, what Zap said above. The Pinnovators card makes it super easy to hook up a sub. The installation manual is indeed on the pinnovator site. Link here:
I am using the pinnovators stuff on all my Stern machines. I first started with just the sub hookup and I moved to the headphone setup on the door which is totally separate hardware and a great way to get totally immersed.
Quoted from netman63129:
I installed Cliffy's to protect the shooter lane and now most of the time, my auto-plunger fails to plunge the ball far enough to exit the lane. The ball seems to catch on something near the plunger and falls back onto the plunger which is a pain during multi-ball as multiple balls get stuck there. I can manually plunge the ball without issues. Did I install something incorrectly?
Check the lip of the Cliffy at the trough exit, if it extends pass the wood that could be your issue.
Quoted from jsm172:
Folks that made the POTD mod themselves, how did you attach the green led lights to the figures? Tape them on or drill them in the actual figure?
Matrix post light underneath with a screw up into the figure, holds everything together.
Quoted from jsm172:
Thanks. That’s exactly what I was looking for. I am assuming green is the color I want for these?
Yes, green is what I used. I did not use the brown base for the King but did for the other 2 figures. Because of this I did not need all 4 lights on the King's post light and per a suggestion from Comet just broke two of the lights off. I know, it did not seem like the best solution at the time but it ended up working out. I did cut some small holes in the brown base of the other 2 to let the light shine up. Those wires need to be taped snug underneath to avoid the ball getting stuck.
I recently shared a new PinSound mix available for Download from the PinSound Community. Based on some feedback, I have revised my original LOTR hawknole mix and taken out all non-LOTR music. I sourced some new LOTR music and made some minor tweaks to some of the existing sound files.
Quoted from Jarbyjibbo:
What type of non-LOTR music did you have in the mix? I have been playing with it for a while and nothing comes to mind but maybe I just didn't notice or maybe I'm confusing the three different mixes I have on it.
My first mix has some Led Zeppelin: Moby Dick drums for Balrog intro, Misty Mountain Hop and Ramble On for multiball
Quoted from Pinkitten:
They look like this, and I’ve seen them advertised for sale on Pinside in the past. Hopefully it’s ok to post this. I found this one for sale on the website that rhymes with B-Flay! I can’t remember who offered it here. I will check my receipt...[quoted image]
I purchased this coil from a pinside shop and installed them, happy with the performance.
Quoted from Adaminski:
Looking for a pointer to help - I'm sure it's been discussed, but my searches on Pinside and bookmarks aren't showing anything.
Yesterday, while my wife was playing, the sound started to go wonky. Screeching, static, and sometimes the callouts were high pitched (sped up, or like they had sucked in helium). This happened a lot during modes, but also all the time. So the music/callouts were mostly there, but garbled and distorted. Kept going for a couple games.
Turned off overnight, and played a test game this morning. All sound worked fine - no problems.
Online I found lots of problems with no sound or static at lower levels, but not this problem, although I feel like I've read about it before. Anyone have links to a discussion?
1) Is this something normally solved by a reboot?
2) Is this the start of further sound issues?
3) If so, will Pinsound solve it?
I've been looking for an excuse to install Pinsound, but with Wonka being delivered soon, I was hoping to delay Pinsound expense a little longer.
Could be something is loose, check the back box
Quoted from Adaminski:
Thanks for the suggestion hawknole . I watched Pinsound Whitestar install video to see where sound connectors were located, and made sure they were all pushed in. I then checked all connectors in backbox. Most were not obviously loose, but a couple did tighten. I also checked the sound ROM, made sure it was seated well, and used compressed air to blow out any dust (it wasn't too dirty).
Sadly, the sound problems now seem to come and go every game. Examples in the YouTube videos below. Anyone else seen problems like this, and know how to fix them (or a link to the post/discussion on Pinside)? If PinSound is the answer, I'll get on their wait list, as Whitestar is out of stock, with expected build at the end of this month.
This video has squeaky and static sound for first ~10 sec, then OK sound for ~11 seconds.:
This video has bad sound at 10-14 seconds:
Strange, maybe the sound ROM is bad or has a corroded leg. PinSound might fix it or there could be an underlying problem with a board. If this was a Williams pin then the PinSound is a full out replacement for the sound board but in the case of Whitestar it piggy backs off a slot. If that piggy back area is bad it won’t solve your issue. I would try to resolve the issue first if possible. The Whitestar sound is less than desirable for sure so PinSound is a great upgrade, just don’t want you chasing gremlins after buying it.
Quoted from insx:
I joined the club on Sunday with a slightly tatty machine but everything plays great. My Palantir target is leaning badly, does anyone know if the "Stern pinball target support" on Thingiverse fits it?
I have an alternate support, pinbits maybe but same concept, and my target still moves to the left a little.
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