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#701 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

I expect lots of negativity or hate from some people.

And by the way you are posting not only in this thread, you are asking for it, aren't you?

Ball times weren't even a topic in this thread until you started stirring the sh...

#702 3 years ago
Quoted from stoptap:

Hey chaps.
Could some kind soul please supply me with a hi-res scan (or high quality photo) of the area below the Shoot Again insert (below the flippers) ?
I have just bought a very nice LOTR but as it is a UK model it has the frickin' stupid 'skill' posts installed. I would like to remove the bottom one and make a better fitting plug with a decal to cover it.

I think the user controlled posts are cool. If you're not going to use them maybe just disable the coil function in the menus or remove the power from the coil but leave them in case someone decides it might be cool to use them at a later date.

#703 3 years ago
Quoted from markmon:

I think the user controlled posts are cool. If you're not going to use them maybe just disable the coil function in the menus or remove the power from the coil but leave them in case someone decides it might be cool to use them at a later date.

They are horrible. They are despised here in the UK. I will make any alterations reversible if a future owner wants to put them back in.

#704 3 years ago
Quoted from stoptap:

Hey chaps.
Could some kind soul please supply me with a hi-res scan (or high quality photo) of the area below the Shoot Again insert (below the flippers) ?
I have just bought a very nice LOTR but as it is a UK model it has the frickin' stupid 'skill' posts installed. I would like to remove the bottom one and make a better fitting plug with a decal to cover it.

If you get a scan, please let me know as mine has some damage in that area that I would love to put a decal over.

#705 3 years ago
Quoted from judremy:

If you get a scan, please let me know as mine has some damage in that area that I would love to put a decal over.

Will do.

#706 3 years ago

Just wanted to share what I finished doing today, a mixture of Comet LED's and ones sourced locally (I wanted to get comet ones - add something special to the game!) Thoughts? Also added an LED OCD board and did superbands while I was at it.

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#707 3 years ago

Here is mine in a totally dark room.

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#708 3 years ago
Quoted from Archytas:

Just wanted to share what I finished doing today, a mixture of Comet LED's and ones sourced locally (I wanted to get comet ones - add something special to the game!) Thoughts? Also added an LED OCD board and did superbands while I was at it.

Very nice! And I'm far more on the "keep it original" side, but this is really well done.

The only thing i don't get is why I see purple in LotR again and again. It doesn't fit the machine or the theme at all. I'd exchange the 3 purple ones on the backboard behind the path of the dead with green ones and the machine would be perfect.

#709 3 years ago
Quoted from someoneelse:

Very nice! And I'm far more on the "keep it original" side, but this is really well done.
The only thing i don't get is why I see purple in LotR again and again. It doesn't fit the machine or the theme at all. I'd exchange the 3 purple ones on the backboard behind the path of the dead with green ones and the machine would be perfect.

I'm giving it a go - the purple does actually make a nice contrast but I have green ones I might try substituting in

#710 3 years ago
Quoted from someoneelse:

Very nice! And I'm far more on the "keep it original" side, but this is really well done.
The only thing i don't get is why I see purple in LotR again and again. It doesn't fit the machine or the theme at all. I'd exchange the 3 purple ones on the backboard behind the path of the dead with green ones and the machine would be perfect.

Yea the photos suck. What is actually purple in most the photos is not purple in person. It's pink, but pink on red doesnt look pink. It accents the reds and oranges together in a really cool way that cant be photoed.

#711 3 years ago
Quoted from Archytas:

I'm giving it a go - the purple does actually make a nice contrast but I have green ones I might try substituting in

Yeah, you'll lose that contrast, but it just hurts to see the path of the dead lit up in purple.

At the moment I've got red on the backboard like you, but I think only 2 green ones to the left (so one more red). The rest of the machine is warm white. I might give the green ones for the slings a try, really like that glow.

#712 3 years ago

I will try to post shots of mine sometime. I used a mix of sunlight, warm white, and cool white where I felt each was appropriate. An orange LED flasher behind the ring is awesome to make the ring glow. Try it.

#713 3 years ago

a little works on my lotr

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#714 3 years ago
Quoted from someoneelse:

Ball times weren't even a topic in this thread

Do people have to get your approval first to talk about LOTR topics in this thread? No, they don't.

You have added nothing to this discussion regarding ball times of LOTR.

You just waste everybody's time like you do trolling the ghost busters thread telling the guy to use an Orc topper for his ghost busters game.

#715 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

Do people have to get your approval first to talk about LOTR topics in this thread? No, they don't.
You have added nothing to this discussion regarding ball times of LOTR.
You just waste everybody's time like you do trolling the ghost busters thread telling the guy to use an Orc topper for his ghost busters game.

Let me hug you, my friend. Can't help myself, you're just so cute.

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#716 3 years ago

So far, from the limited number of ball time / game time submissions submitted, LOTRs average ball times are not that much longer than most games. Average ball times are are 1-2 minutes as stated by the games audits. Obviously, better players have longer games than average sometimes. And obviously again it depends how it is set up.

Under 5 minutes, is hardly a long game, taken by itself.

On the other hand....

If a tournament director wants to maximize coin drops and payouts for prize money, obviously they want as many ultra short ball time games as possible.

As usual, money is the whole motivation for everything. Forget about how good the game plays. Get those 4 players off that machine so more coins can be inserted!

If not, why not just have a tournament with FEWER longer ball time games? I suppose that is out of the question because money is the whole motive.

#717 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

Do people have to get your approval first to talk about LOTR topics in this thread? No, they don't.

Actually what you're doing is more instigating than talking. You have tried to rally the troops to your cause, but found that the soldiers were quite happy at home playing LOTR. Why do you have such angst when someone says "hour long game" about LOTR? What are you so upset about?

I can ask those questions because you labeled me as helpful to your cause.

#718 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

So far, from the limited number of ball time / game time submissions submitted, LOTRs average ball times are not that much longer than most games. Average ball times are are 1-2 minutes as stated by the games audits. Obviously, better players have longer games than average sometimes. And obviously again it depends how it is set up.
Under 5 minutes, is hardly a long game, taken by itself.

Do you own a LotR?
I'm not questioning the audit submissions, but then you would know that LotR just is a very "long player". Not every game will be lengthy, it's still pinball and a lot of random stuff happens. But it's easy to get into it and when you are, games can take an hour or longer.
Even if you set it up brutally it has a lot of safe havens that tournament players will exploit to keep the ball in play. Such long games are simply not very attractive for tournament play. Even in my home setting LotR hardly get's any use when there's a party and four are playing. Who wants to wait up to an hour until it's his turn again?

It is more of a game you play alone or maybe explore with a friend, as such it is one of the best games ever.

Despite the statistics it has long ball times but that is a welcomed, good thing.

#719 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

So far, from the limited number of ball time / game time submissions submitted, LOTRs average ball times are not that much longer than most games. Average ball times are are 1-2 minutes as stated by the games audits. Obviously, better players have longer games than average sometimes. And obviously again it depends how it is set up.
Under 5 minutes, is hardly a long game, taken by itself.
On the other hand....
If a tournament director wants to maximize coin drops and payouts for prize money, obviously they want as many ultra short ball time games as possible.
As usual, money is the whole motivation for everything. Forget about how good the game plays. Get those 4 players off that machine so more coins can be inserted!
If not, why not just have a tournament with FEWER longer ball time games? I suppose that is out of the question because money is the whole motive.

No it's not at all in the VAST majority of tournaments.

Most tournaments don't even operate on coin drop (and even if they are on coin.. Rarely is the coin going to the tournament itself). The biggest constraint in tournaments is *time*. You are just talking out of your ass again and not from any actual credibility or experience in the area.

The reason directors are wary of long playing games is they back the system up and put the event at risk of running long... Which can be deadly when you are working in an area with finite operating hours or people traveling. How long it takes to complete rounds is the biggest chunk directors have to plan around.

Fewer games that play longer is the absolute worst thing you can do. It limits how many can compete, it limits how many times people can compete against each other before determining a match.

There is a reason top tournaments are not decided by one playing one game.... Think about why.

#720 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

So far, from the limited number of ball time / game time submissions submitted, LOTRs average ball times are not that much longer than most games. Average ball times are are 1-2 minutes as stated by the games audits. Obviously, better players have longer games than average sometimes. And obviously again it depends how it is set up.
Under 5 minutes, is hardly a long game, taken by itself.
On the other hand....
If a tournament director wants to maximize coin drops and payouts for prize money, obviously they want as many ultra short ball time games as possible.
As usual, money is the whole motivation for everything. Forget about how good the game plays. Get those 4 players off that machine so more coins can be inserted!
If not, why not just have a tournament with FEWER longer ball time games? I suppose that is out of the question because money is the whole motive.

Have you ever run a tournament? I doubt it very much.

I run the tournaments in New Zealand and am the tournament director in Auckland.

There are a few machines I don't like to have in tournament and they are the ones that are always holding up the tournament waiting for players to finish and the top of that list is LOTR. On the few occasions that we have had to use it (when we have over 80 players in the comp) it is set up so brutal that everyone complains. That doesn't mean we don't like the game, as I said, I love it but it is definitely not a competition pin.

And for the record, all our meets are in private homes with machines on free play so there is no coin drop. We also do not charge to enter our comps so money is not even a factor. The overriding factor is time. No one wants to be still playing the comp at 1am.

#721 3 years ago

Wow just checked in to learn I need to play better. My LOTR is on 5 ball and I think the longest game may have been around 20 min. Checking out time to go practice .

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#722 3 years ago
Quoted from pauloz:

I run the tournaments

As you said, who cares?

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#723 3 years ago

We will just have to disagree then.

LOTR

Average 1-2 minute balls, per audits.
Average a little more than 4 minute games, per audits.

That's not that long of a ball or game in home use.

I could care less about its use tournaments.

#724 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

We will just have to disagree then.
LOTR
Average 1-2 minute balls, per audits.
Average a little more than 4 minute games, per audits.
That's not that long of a ball or game in home use.
I could care less about its use tournaments.

Translated: I could care less about facts that don't support my fantasy

#725 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

People who did not help or worked against the LOTR ball time and game time study:
Pauloz
Flynnibus

How old are you?...5

#726 3 years ago

Getting away from the ball times argument currently dominating this thread...

Does anyone know where I can buy a topper for LOTR? I think lasserric(?) used to produce this one but can't find it for sale anymore.

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I'd like to get something similiar to match my T2 topper, I'm not keen on putting minifigs on top of my game (the last owner did this and it has left nasty patches where the hot glue kept them in place). Or if anyone has one of the above toppers and is willing to ship overseas I'd be greatful.

Thanks!

#727 3 years ago
Quoted from pauloz:

How old are you?...5

I find it humerous reading the last couple pages of this thread b/c the person you are talking to I have on ignore so I just see a lot of people responding to "Ignored user comment"

#728 3 years ago

I have a set of LOTR instruction cards (new) printed on metal if anyone is interested. $35 shipped please pm if interested. Thanks

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#729 3 years ago

That is definitely a laseriffic topper. It is an early one and I purchased it from them. Contact Joe directly to see if he has one lying around.

#730 3 years ago

Decided to get rid of the purple's and go back to green above the POTD, looks much better. Interesting to try though! Such a small thing but can make a lot of difference, also swapped the reds and oranges above the ring and mount doom around so it fits better.

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#731 3 years ago
Quoted from Archytas:

Getting away from the ball times argument currently dominating this thread...
Does anyone know where I can buy a topper for LOTR? I think lasserric(?) used to produce this one but can't find it for sale anymore.

I'd like to get something similiar to match my T2 topper, I'm not keen on putting minifigs on top of my game (the last owner did this and it has left nasty patches where the hot glue kept them in place). Or if anyone has one of the above toppers and is willing to ship overseas I'd be greatful.
Thanks!

That is a Matt McKee topper that has long been sold out.

#732 3 years ago
Quoted from hlaj78:

That is definitely a laseriffic topper. It is an early one and I purchased it from them. Contact Joe directly to see if he has one lying around.

It is a Matt McKee topper, not Laseriffic.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wtb-matt-mckee-lotr-topper-1?responsive=0

#733 3 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

That is a Matt McKee topper that has long been sold out.

At that's a shame, really liked the look of that one but would be after any with that sort of style.

#734 3 years ago

Been having some issues with my Balrog not working. Upon further investigation, it appears that the connector for the power cable is not doing its job. Anyone have any idea what part number this connector is on Marco? I've found several, and while it's tempting to just buy one of each and test them out, I'd love to try and get the right part. Here is what I found on Marco. Thanks for your help!

1) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10817-06

2) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-12116-06

3) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10818-06

4) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10847-06

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#735 3 years ago

Hard to say exactly which one. There are different gauge wires going into that IDC connector. IDC connectors suck. I would replace that connector with a Molex connector with crimped pins. Crimping pins to replace connectors is a skill anyone can learn. And if your in the hobby for very long, a skill you will need for sure. All the components you would need to do this repair can be found here... Plus a crimping tool. But to be honest, I usually do it with a pair of needle nose pliers.

https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/products.asp?cat=86

#736 3 years ago
Quoted from cfc0d3r:

Been having some issues with my Balrog not working. Upon further investigation, it appears that the connector for the power cable is not doing its job. Anyone have any idea what part number this connector is on Marco? I've found several, and while it's tempting to just buy one of each and test them out, I'd love to try and get the right part. Here is what I found on Marco. Thanks for your help!
1) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10817-06
2) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-12116-06
3) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10818-06
4) http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10847-06

These may work:

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1598

Tool for punching down wires:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1590

Seems odd that the connector isn't working anymore. Are you sure there isn't a break in the wire at the pivot point above the playfield? That is where it commonly breaks. I would check for continuity after you connect it back up.

#737 3 years ago
Quoted from LOTR_breath:

Hard to say exactly which one. There are different gauge wires going into that IDC connector. IDC connectors suck. I would replace that connector with a Molex connector with crimped pins. Crimping pins to replace connectors is a skill anyone can learn. And if your in the hobby for very long, a skill you will need for sure. All the components you would need to do this repair can be found here... Plus a crimping tool. But to be honest, I usually do it with a pair of needle nose pliers.
https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/products.asp?cat=86

Quoted from judremy:

These may work:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1598
Tool for punching down wires:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1590
Seems odd that the connector isn't working anymore. Are you sure there isn't a break in the wire at the pivot point above the playfield? That is where it commonly breaks. I would check for continuity after you connect it back up.

LOTR_breath and judremy, thank you for the quick reply! There are definitely different wire gauges, unfortunately. judremy, I will definitely check the wire at the pivot point, however it was so blatantly clear at the start of my inspection that the connector was damaged, and the wire frayed. Thanks again for the help!

#738 3 years ago

Installed a homemade 'eye' flasher today. Looks good for zero cost.

#739 3 years ago

I remember reading mixed feedback on the speaker upgrade. It seemed it was not night-and-day. Did I get this right?

#740 3 years ago
Quoted from lb1:

I remember reading mixed feedback on the speaker upgrade. It seemed it was not night-and-day. Did I get this right?

The sampling quality of the original sounds are such that an upgrade of backbox speakers does nothing. Sub upgrade makes a difference though. Get that bass thumping.

#741 3 years ago

Agree with TimeBandit , was lucky enough to buy his first lord of the rings off him some time back which came with upgraded speakers an the bass is crazy, would never imagine playing the game with out them... Thanks again TB..

#742 3 years ago
Quoted from whisper:

The sampling quality of the original sounds are such that an upgrade of backbox speakers does nothing. Sub upgrade makes a difference though. Get that bass thumping.

Quoted from whisper:

Agree with TimeBandit , was lucky enough to buy his first lord of the rings off him some time back which came with upgraded speakers an the bass is crazy, would never imagine playing the game with out them... Thanks again TB..

Thanks a lot. Sounds like a worthwhile upgrade.

#743 3 years ago

Tagging post...I'll have to check my ball time audits when I get home as mine is never a hold up on tournaments.

#744 3 years ago

I have been replacing the green LED's that I had in my path of the dead figures with UV LED's this week. I forgot what a PIA it was to put those in...lol

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#745 3 years ago

Posts about changing a light bulb color...(to a non-authentic color in a non-essential mod mind you)

Please, keep this up. We need this quality content.

#746 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

Posts about changing a light bulb color...(to a non-authentic color in a non-essential mod mind you)
Please, keep this up. We need this quality content.

Why are you trolling inside a club thread?

#747 3 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

Why are you trolling inside a club thread?

He doesn't discriminate in regards to trolling.

#748 3 years ago

Most over used, weak, and inflammatory comment on the forum. Why do you use it?

State why you want to know more about insignificant lighting changes. That would be an intelligent response.

#749 3 years ago
Quoted from Propaganda:

Most over used, weak, and inflammatory comment on the forum. Why do you use it?
State why you want to know more about insignificant lighting changes. That would be an intelligent response.

#750 3 years ago

I used three squirts of glass cleaner and a paper towel to wipe my playfield glass.

The 11 x 7 inch, 2 ply paper towel was folded in half. It was a white paper towel, free of images.

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