Agreed... cool theme as i watched alot of Jetsons as a kid..

'get that much' - you may think as more profit.. but you aren't writing the rent check either

It's like comparing eating at home vs what you pay at the restaurant.. you aren't really give him any credit for covering costs and services you don't need/want when eating at home.

Retail pin prices are ALWAYS nuts to anyone who can work on things themselves. Been that way for decades. Let's not act like TPC is somehow unique here.

No, just exhausted.

Only reason I'm lonely is 'cause I lost two in laws in the course of a year, not cause my Pokémons won't hatch or anything. See you next Tuesday!

More surprised people wld pay 16k for a basic restored 1995 afm... i get they can ask whatever thats fine and why not? . Id just think most their customers wld buy a nib pin for half that price. This is the reason the jetsons will sell bc a nib at 6 k looks like a steal compared to old 90s pins without color screen and thing's. This was the point of my original post but bc bits and pieces only got picked out and quoted the original intention of it got lost.

I think it's pretty cool that a company that sells arcade games for a living was able to get a license and game design and manage to find someone (Spooky) to bring it to life. That has to be a dream come true for TPC. Congrats on making it happen and I'm sure you know your market well enough that it will be successful. If not, you still made your own pinball machine. Not a lot people can claim that.

Why is drive-by posting any better? If you're not going to stick around to continue the discussion, the initial post is meaningless.

That art package is just awesome. The color scheme is beautiful, lots going on, and it feels totally laid out with the playfield in mind as the canvas (rather than randomly cut and paste stock Spiderman pictures for example).

Funny how people see shades of different games looking at something new whether it's LW3 or Rocky and Bullwinkle. I instantly thought it looked like BSD.

Just the pop area and 3 targets in front resemble bsd imo. Bsd has a ton of toys and mechs. Definitely looks like lw3 imo

Not Bible Adventures?!

God Damnit!

But LW3 looks just like T2!!!

I see what you did there

It doesn't really have a TON of toys. Dracula in a coffin that looks like Ron Jeremy waiting for the fluffer and the mist magnet. It's just the mist magnet is so awesome it makes you forget it's not TZ. But I don't think every pin needs to be TZ either.

I want to play TJ. Gameplay and code may make up for the first impressions by some.

Sorry meant features not toys....

So I probably won't be buying this pin, but I asked my kids (12 and 14) if they knew who the Jetson's were. I have to admit, I was surprised when both of them did. They watch the cartoons some, see references through other cartoons, etc.

Yea alot of pins look alike as theres only so much you can do on such a small area...

Jaws looks like it has quite a following, too. ... but it better have a pinball eating shark.

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I am sure Universal will stipulate that no pinballs will be allowed to hit the shark.

cuz AFM is the most empty cheapest feeling B/W ever made. It barely has anything on it. Name one B/W title that has less and feels more econoline than AFM?

Nobody cares. It's an awesome game and it will never get old, unlike your endless "AFM is an Econoline" posts. And it doesn't "feel" cheap, you must be mistaking that with one of the "cardboard cab" recent games.

it does feel unfinished and cheap compared to anything else in the b/w lineup. Never said the cheap feel and empty layout had any reflection on the fun factor. IM and BBH both look and feel cheap too, but both of those games are fun as well.

I was about to order one, if the price was $4000. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me at $6000 since I have no idea if the gameplay/rules will be to my liking. Just a bit of a stretch to me.

If they had a full working game with video rules etc. maybe I could see, but just as a shot in the dark not interested. Sad that you'd need to pay more if you wait and see.

For the life of me, I don't understand the 300 limit.

I think Jetsons is a fine theme, but I'd rather have Speed Racer

The sole reason for the 300 limit in my opinion is to try and create a sense of rarity and therefore more demand than supply, therefore justifying the high price.

you don't always have to pay more later. RZ seems to be less now than new.

Well, that and Charlie's shop is only so big and you can only do so much in the space he has.

I'd like to come up with some other conspiracy theory, but that's about it.

Makes sense to me for several reasons.

By limiting it to 300 creates some amount of demand for it, just based on the limited nature of it, than if it was open ended.

Expensive to go back and make the custom parts for additional smaller runs vs doing it once. Between ramps, wiring harnesses, playfield, back glasses, electronics, there are plenty of items you would have to go get more made. Any savings on quantity purchasing won't be nearly as good if they later decide to do another 50.

they can't be sure Charlie will have production capacity later to make more, he may be busy with other projects, he would also have to gear back up to do it, so there is likely some setup costs that come back into play. I'm sure Charlie knows how long to make these so he can time the next run on the assembly line to follow up after it and time any announcements accordingly.

The license likely has a timeframe limit to it, if they don't finish by a certain date they would have to renew the license and assuming they could get it renewed, the cost would likely be higher.

I don't think they said anything definitive about not doing more, or done anything that prevents them from later changing and doing more if the demand was really there for it, and they wanted to deal with all of the above.

Jetsons is a good theme - I can see kids liking is just fine without knowing its 38 years old. I know lots of teens and 20's that are Trekkies, like Batman 66 and the Beatles that were born in the 21st century.

Price? So bored of posters pretending to be retailers.

Grateful for being a Pinside editor - key posts needed on this thread!!

Game play - I agree with Bryan_Kelly and FawzmaGames , that the rules will be fine. I don't expect to play this at PAPA / IPFA tournaments, could see plenty of family fun centers as buyers. The amusement vendors show in Orlando in November is full of extremely expensive games - and FEC's buy them because they make money.

I'm sure Nic has plenty of buyers in mind.

It seems that he plans on building another pin after Jetsons, so there really is no limit to how many he can build of a single title if he wanted to keep a run going.

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Congrats TPC and spooky. I had a surf n safari. Fixed up in good shape. Listed for more than I should have been. Had three buyers lined up because it's family friendly theme the parents can enjoy and the kids can get. Just a little side-boob other than that clean game.
Sold to grandparents for their family game room. How many ramp era games are in that category.

They have 2 lines and IIRC are making 8-10 games a week. 300 machines getting the shop's full attention is over 6 months of work. Charlie has said that he wasn't to keep wait times down so they won't be doing massive runs. Game #3 is $6250 with a run of 500. If you want more than that from a contract game, see if Stern will take the project up.

Or.. maybe something to do with Spooky's capacity? You know the thing they used to cap the production on their last title too? And the thing Charlie has said he wants to keep to sustainable growth?

I thought you said you were putting me on ignore?

Your comments are very similar to ones I put on The Pinball Company's Facebook page that got taken down soon after I posted them. However, now that I know that this machine isn't "meant" for us Pinsiders, the sparse play field makes more sense now.

There is a lot of potential for a very challenging game for the rest of us if it would have been designed and marketed toward us.

I really love the Jetsons and I probably would have been interested in buying this for my family. It's a shame this IP is being squandered on a machine designed for a very niche market.

surprised nobody has spoken about the best thing...

Spooky can now do LARGE vac formed ramps!

I already know that from facebook, and yes it's VERY awesome

Really? It feels better than most of the b/w pins i own and owned which is a good many?
Its definitely the best player with some neat effects and toys but the code is my favorite overall of any b/w pins. Just alot of fun to play.

How does this game compare to the $3,799 Stern Spiderman on The Pinball Co.'s own website?

$5,999 is a lot of money.

I sold a jurassic park game to a family because the kid like dinosaurs

They have only one Stern Spiderman and can sell lots of Jetson's.

Believe me, a lot of people will look at a game like the Stern Spdierman and be intimidated by all the toys, lights, inner workings, etc. And they will be happy to buy a simple pin like the Jetsons.

Sure the Stern Spiderman is a great pin. And a lot of people here love it. But that doesn't mean there isn't a market out there for games to please those that want a simple, easy to play pin, that they can have lots of fun on.

Not everybody measures a purchase by price, they measure by what they are looking for.

LTG : )

Think he was talking about the new The Pin home version of Spiderman which is a lot less complicated and alot cheaper.

If so, I apologize for the confusion.

LTG : )

I appreciate your response, but yes, I was referring to Stern's The Pin version.

Guys have to remember, TPC has money tied up in a license and development. They would never make it back by "giving away" these machines.

Anyone who thinks they can start a pin company, sell them for a faction over cost and stay in business; must live on some other planet.

The S and the C are red inserts...I'm guessing those are Spacely and Cogswell.

Correct

I had the same thought about a tube ramp.

Confirmed.

I guess Spooky doesn't wanna let Stern hold the crown of "King Of All Typos"

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