Quoted from FlippyD:
I have to keep me and my family and my passengers safe and it's just a big giant WHY PAD in my field of view!
Tesla's are the safest vehicles on the road, consistently getting top ratings and the SUV couldn't even be flipped in crash testing so you're good there.
Quoted from gdonovan:
Saying in the car industry, so goes California so goes the rest of the nation. California is or was the number one state for car sales. Everything pretty much gets made to California spec as it costs to much to have separate specs built.
It doesn't matter what California does when the rest of the world is also doing it and in some cases at a quicker pace. We have no choice but to go along with it, if we don't we won't be able to sell our cars in world markets in a few years. There was no choice.
Hydrogen doesn't have a chance compared to electric for a whole host of reasons far too long to get into here. But other's (that don't have ties/kickbacks to legacy auto) have covered this far better than I could on a forum.
Quoted from thekiyote:
I get you, but this door swings both ways.
Owning a Tesla, I can say that the vast majority of conversations I've had with people have been mostly practicality focused. What's the millage, battery lifespan, cost of the vehicle, electricity costs, etc. Occasionally we talk about lithium mining, but it's usually pros and cons vs oil drilling. It's good natured, most people don't think EVs are there yet, for one reason or another, and I get it.
But every once in a while, there's someone who just hates the fact I have an electric vehicle. Usually, there isn't even a reason for it. They just keep on ragging and ragging on it. I don't know if they think they're funny or what, but after a while, I'm like, dude, the horse is dead. Give it up.
And you know, if I disagree with this type of person, I'M the one who's going to get labeled as the Elon Musk nut hugger, or whatever. It's annoying.
Also, those guys who park their trucks perpendicular, blocking off a bunch of supercharger stalls are real and complete assholes.
Definitely seems to depend on the age group. Young folk love them and have endless questions for me about mine, while they viewed my previous Camaro as "Uncool" and "Dad's car" as some put it. Old folk though can have extreme bordering on vitriolic hatred for them, can't say I understand why. It's why for example in the car thread here I had posted pics of my Camaro, but wouldn't dare post pics of my Tesla, it would just get downvoted to oblivion.
Quoted from thekiyote:
Yokes I don't like, but I haven't noticed the shifting to be an issue, and my garage enters into a very narrow Chicago alley that takes constant back and forths to get in and out of. But this also isn't my first car with a steering wheel shifter, so I might just be used to it at this point.
I had actually cancelled a Model S Plaid+ order because of the yoke, at the time I fell into the circle jerk of hate. Some months later I decided to hell with it I'll try it, mostly because I noticed a pattern. Anything tied to legacy auto endlessly crapped on it but typical folk doing reviews on YouTube like moms, kids, whoever kept saying once you get used to it you may prefer it.
So I ordered an S Plaid and decided to not be an old man yells at cloud and instead just try it. Yeah at first it was odd, now though even if they offered me a free wheel swap I'd say no. I prefer the yoke, I prefer no stalks, I prefer the auto shifting and on screen shifting, I prefer the clean look and setup and won't go back, older setups fell clunky to me. Let's face it, older folk are typically extremely resistant to change so it is what it is, but sometimes you have to try something for a while before really learning about it. Car reviewers that have a car for mere hours will never like it so they predictably crap on it. Ask actual owners about it though, not saying you won't get some that still prefer a wheel but you may be surprised at how many (like me) now prefer it.
It's actually why I've also stopped watching all legacy auto related channels on YouTube, their approach and thinking are just to dated and sometimes painful to watch now. I watch mostly ordinary people talking about cars now on YouTube, you get far better and truthful insights that way.