I will try and make up these also, i want it for my own reference also

Battle of 5 Armies is pretty bare bones at the moment...no way software is "complete". There is no mini display (it's blank), not much sound, callouts, or music, and instructions are lacking. It's "color" is pale green and you have to drop the ELF and DWARF targets for a while, then the targets slowly cycle and you continue to hit them, then it switches to beast hits...then I drained.

Nope...the blue captive ball after the ball is in the pops is to relight the kickback. You can stack kickback lights too.

I'm not totally sold on this visualisation. You can see the dependencies but I don't like the thickness of the lines, some of the text overlaps so its hard to tell what line is what mode (ie. mirkwood looks like flies and spiders). I'll see if I can make something clearer but it's a decent start.

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I've had a few mins to digest this.

The way to read this is left side is least dependencies, right is most dependencies.

So best method is playing from left to right. Simple

There are a few key modes through out that feed into more modes that others.

Examples. roast mutton. the one ring. mirkwood.

Maybe I can manipulate the data and have the lines cumulatively weighted.

I'm sure Keith will be expanding on it (like he did with the others) as well as eventually adding a super wizard mode to rule all wizard modes

I think if you spaced everything vertically more and thinned out the "lines" it would help a lot, but fantastic work man!!!!

For reference here is the 4k video of all modes and feeders.

Wow, now that is a cool concept. Now if only I could figure out what does the bonus x, I had 18x which was pretty sweet.

Excellent.

I tried to visualize it again. Probably as good as I can do. I think your "map" style is probably easier to read.

Here is mine.

The way you read it is that the longer the vertical stack the more potential benefit it has. If I could sort based on height (which the software doesn't allow) it should show the optimal path(s). I think a hive map might be better suited for this data but the software doesn't have that either :\

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The other thing that affects the order that you can do it in is the mode qualifiers. At any particular time only certain modes are available to be flipped to via the book ramp.

Thank you thank you thank you Tiesmascand everyone else who contributed to this guide! I've been bitten big time by The Hobbit bug, and this guide has been my bible.

Top notch stuff!

on cover page row 2 - update version from 0.8 to 1.90

Battle of Five Armies was different than described for me. See my post above...

Maybe I just REALLY increased my multiplier when I played then...LOL. They did change up and start cycling drops after a while like I advanced to another stage. Hmmm, I admit I didn't really read the screen so much. I just shot the lit targets.

Thank you for taking the time to do this. These rulesheets are perfect airplane reading material.

I just had an awesome game and a new G.C. Of 5,125,899. What a rush! Killed Smaug twice, and got through all mini wizards and then back "Into The Fire" a second time.
Anyway here are a couple of updates I caught from "Battle of 5 Armies"

Stage 1 : Bash 8 beasts then shoot the Ork for the super jackpot.
Stage 2: Bash 20 beasts and then shoot the Ork for the super jackpot
Stage 3:
- Shoot the "D" target in "Dwarf", then hit Thorin 5 times.
- Shoot the "W" target and then hit Thorin 4 times.
- Shoot the "A" target and then hit Thorin 3 times.
- Shoot the "R" target and then hit Thorin 2 times.
- Shoot the "F" target and then . . .
- Drain to one ball . . .end of mode. Maybe next time I'll get further and fill you in.

I've been jamming out HARD on The Hobbit at the local (well, 30 miles one way) bowling alley. I'm sorry to be so dense, but... what do you mean by "feeders"? I got to that part on the rulesheet and I'm just lost now. Please to have pity on me and explain.

not bad for a machine on route with half of the pop ups not working, eh?

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I believe you only have to hit thorin once between dwarf hits.
Anyways after that sequence you have to hit 3p beasts. So many.....

I don't even know what mode you kill Smaug in. Can anyone help me out? Haven't had much time to play my Hobbit yet. My high score is under 1 million!

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I think he meant 30, not 3p.

Nope. Confirmed last night: it's 20 beast hits and 5, 4, 3, etc Thorin hits as posted.

Picking up a Hobbit this weekend.

You're so in for a treat, dude!

The book is blacked out currently in 5 Armies...

*sigh* i'll do it if I remember

1.94 software adds a little bit, fixes sound popping and other things, adds missed kickback compensation settings.

When are we seeing that?

So, this is something I don't understand. Don't think the ruleset explains it.

When the ring award is 'Light Thorin'
what does it actually do?

Thorin is the captive ball? And the captive ball is always available to be hit? So what does it mean when its lit? does that mean it skips the hits so that next hit is a multiple of 5 for an award?

I just took the glass off to check. You are correct.. It spots a non collected dwarf When it's lite.

ahem <1 month later> ... sorry but i never got around to it.

I do have a consolidation prize. I can now take native screen captures

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You'll notice the mini-lcd inverted next to it so I can grab images from that also!

proof : http://imgur.com/a/bGagC

edit: is the rule file available for editing anywhere ie? google doc's?

I can go through it and update screenshots/add new ones for all modes.

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Hi Guys,

thanks a lot for this rulesheet.
I study it now more intense and have a question.
There are 31 Modes but the only smart strategy seems to be to play it from left to right (A to 5) to get most points.
The wizzard modes are independend from each other an dont affect the modes.

This means to me at the end that there are only one strategy.
I cannot get benefit with different strategys where I can profit.

Im right or did I overlooked something?

Thanks for advise
Flash

Right now with the new code this is my current strategy. I use the postpone lock feature with the ring button as part of my strategy. I'll postpone locks until I have finished Beast Frenzy and usually complete my trip to Erebor before I challenge Smaug. Then during Smaug multi ball I'll usually complete a mode or 3 and of course Feast Frenzy starts as well. Then by the time I'm back to one ball, Into the Fire will be ready to start. Then it's rinse, repeat through Barrell Escape and then Battle of Five Armies. dsuring all play I also focus on starting and playing any mode that is offered. No particular order. They will eventually all be available if your game is long enough.

The link to the rule flowchart on the JJP website on page 9 no longer works ... I don't see it on the JJP site anymore. But you do have that as your last page. Maybe send the hyperlink to your last page.

Any rumors of another update coming soon? Feels like a final arkenstone mode is still missing

Rumors ... A new official release "Soon" ... they were trying to come up with a Ubuntu operating system solution for the sound popping issue if the pin is left on for a long time. They may do a work-a-round solution for now. There are some other updates too from 1.9 but did not hear about any final arkenstone mode.