I think it took them longer to make the game than it took, Peter J to shoot the films.

hobbit is still 10X's better than the prequels or anything in the twilight series. Are they as good as LOTR. No, but still not horrible.

actually, I only saw the first 2, they were so awful. The wife could not talk me into having to sit through more of them. She went with friends to the rest and I refuse to watch them.

The key would be, huge Natural perfect boobs.

that's what i'm talking about. Feel free to PM me pics.

We are still on topic with this, correct?

tittys are relative to everything. Including the hobbit.

91 games in your colletion and not 1 zaccaria. For shame.

I concur....stay on topic people, geez.

is it because jack is there and afraid to give a full real opinion? I notice that people praise things even if they don't like it, if creators are around, and say something totally different in private. Kind of like the baby syndrome. Even if your baby is ugly as shit. People will tell you cute baby.

how about how it played at expo? Because the playfield layout did not change for me from pinburgh, to MGC to expo. Software was a lot different but the playfield was the same. I've played it extensively many times. I was just asking if true reviews were spoken. Not everything about the game is great. Software wise, it's pretty damn good. layout...meh.

I'm not saying it was a turd. There are positives and negatives to the game. Not everything about it is praise. Just curious if people only blow sunshine up jacks butt, or they really say the good with the bad? I don't sugarcoat anything. i'll tell you what I like about something, and i'll also go into massive detail on the aspects I don't like. But as a developer you really need both sides of the fence.

Why would killing smaug be the final wizard mode? It's not the overall ending of the movie. Keith is usually good at keeping the story lines in synch with the movie.

That VUK has been flaky all the time. Even in the very early days. I don't understand why this isn't fixed yet. Should be simple and easy to figure out why the VUK has to try 3 or 4 times to launch the ball out.

Software may yet save this game. I don't know. I guess it saved LOTR. for me LOTR would be a boring ass typical fan pattern game. If it wasn't for the software, I wouldn't own one. This one, i'm not fond of the feel, or the playfield layout. Do not like the way it plays, but I do like everything about the software, from everything i've played and seen, to the new stuff that seems to be added. Time will tell if it holds up well over time. Hopefully it will hold strong even at the 5 year mark, when games really show if they are for the long haul or not.

because then the world will have found the perfect pinball machine and the quest will be over. So far TZ is about as close to perfection as we have seen in the history of pinball.

that shadow isn't that bad of a movie. In fact, I quite enjoy it. is it the best movie in the world, no, but it's entertaining and captures the feel it should.

Same goes for waterworld. I know it's not great, but damn if I don't end up watching the whole thing every time it's on.

the problem is, the shadow playfield is a well thought out design that really works well. Rules are in depth and go along well with the theme, music and layout. What it's based on doesn't really matter as only the backglass really shows anything of the movie. But the prices stayed low for decades because of it. With hobbit, the theme is the basis for purchase this early in the game. It hasn't had 20 years to sit around and wait for people to disregard it, or appreciate it. It's wayyyy to early in the game to say either way. I've put at least 50 games on hobbit over the past 2 years. The rules have been going to drastic changes over those years, but the playfield hasn't changed much. Personally, I don't care for the playfield layout or how it plays. the 3rd flipper is useless and always has been. The rules will be the saving grace of this game. Many in this thread seem to have new pussy syndrome going on, hardcore. Time will be the true test on how well it holds up.

that's true, but look at the ending of LOTR (which keith did). The ending is valinor. Was that the most distinguishing feature of the LOTR trilogy? Nope, but it was the ending of the movies and the ending of LOTR (so i've heard as I have never seen it). I think Keith will do a similar approach here.

it's just talked about as the overall boat ride they take to sail off into the sunset.

They really are not innovative. A little different, but not innovative. Innovative means something that is revolutionary that completely changes the game. A new display does not do that. P2K was innovative. It was unlike anything that was done before. P3 is innovative. JJP just has a new display. Not much different than when DE introduced checkpoint with a DMD.

that's a little premature to be boasting at this point. Lets see how well the parts are to come by 15 years after the fact. You have no idea where computers or motherboards are going to go. JJP's platform may get outdated as well. It's a little early to tell. They do have better chance of outliving, since they are not pigeon holed into one processor like the prism card did, but things could happen with no formats that could not have been predicted.