I have owned both. Getaway is the better game, classic Steve Ritchie game. Add the sensational PinSound board to Getaway and it is even better. Plus Getaway is a 'real' pinball machine and not a hybrid video/pin game.

I only find this true with non-pinball people. Die-hard pinball collectors really don't consider RFM/SWEP1 (Pinball 2000) a typical pinball machine. When I had both games in my collection, my party guest who were not pinball collectors really did love it.

I never called RFM a "video game". I called it a hybrid.

Pinball 2000 did flop. Williams went out of business. If it was so great and Williams felt that it would have saved them, they would have tried making more titles. Pinball 2000 was 20 years ago. If a hybrid game like a Pin2000 was so great why did Stern not continue the idea?

I would think that any pinball player would not like to play ANY pinball machine for the '9 millionth time'. Any title gets old. That is why most collectors have more than one game. Some games are good in a larger collection of games. Games like RFM, SWEP1, Safecracker, etc are good games to have in a large collection of games.

Quoted from Tommy-dog: If a hybrid game like a Pin2000 was so great why did Stern not continue the idea?

Stern makes slot machines? I learn something new everyday. I need to get to Vegas more often.

Williams RFM: George Gomez

Stern Pinball: George Gomez, VP of game development for 8 years.

If Gomez felt a Pinball 2000 game was so great, he would push Stern in that direction.

Pinball 2000 platform, released in January of 1999. It took the pinball industry by storm, the biggest innovation in pinball since it went to digital scoring in the late 70’s. Instead of shooting at the usual targets, video targets were now ‘displayed’ on the playfield. This led to some very cool effects, as instead of just hitting the lit arrow and getting a flash and sound effect, the target would now explode or do some other cool animation. New players in particular were really impressed with the new gameplay, while more traditional players weren’t as enthused by the new changes, feeling it wasn’t ‘real’ pinball. Operators really liked it though because the games brought in more money that the previous games Williams had released, plus had a lot of things that made operating easier like swappable playfields and in depth diagnostics.

The general consensus on RFM (acronym for Revenge from Mars) is that it was a great initial game for the Pinball 2000 platform but as good of a game as some of Williams earlier efforts (at least in the eyes of pinball fans). New players really liked the video integration though.