That lineup is strong,Go for it.

No.

Thanks!!

Great writeup, thanks. Already have a premium on order

Appreciate you taking the time for a detailed review. I was unable to attend either TPF or MGC this year. These are the info-laden posts I like to see. Doesnt matter to me if positive or negative in natue…just like to see others take on the pin! Thanks!

For those that have followed the streams/info closely - has it been said if further wizard modes/more modes will be added to the game in time? Or is assembling the Foo Bot for Foo Bot multiball the intended end of the game?

any mention of a co-op mode eventually?

What is the foil cabinet decal on the LE? Is this the equivalent of radcals?

No. It is the same material used for regular cabinet decals, it just has a foil/shimmering effect to it. Its subtle but nice, I liked the look of it on my Iron Man VE.

Im hoping they add some kind of mode that has a “number of flips qualifier” similar to AIQ’s Soul Gem or GZ’s Terror of MechaGodzilla. I find those a blast to play. One of the things I miss after letting go of my AIQ!

Seems like I heard JD mention something about this in one of the streams?

This may have been tackled already, but is the pro on this game ripe for a promium upgrade? I kinda hate that term but it looks like the sculpted truck and the sculpted overlord could be easily added to the pro so that really the only things you would be missing would be the magnet, upper playfield, and the deadpost. Now that I type that all out it still seems like a lot but at least they typical pro plastic parts look to be easily replaceable and for someone who is not a big upper playfield guy, this becomes one hell of a bargain and machine.

Yeah, this is kind of how I am going. There will be aftermarket mods for the sculpts but Pro buyers will miss out on the Deadpost and the ability to add Expression Lighting down the road.

Other random comment: I'm not getting the comparisons or questions people are tossing out about if there will be overlap in a lineup with FF and Deadpool. Is it the comic vibe? Shots-wise these two could not be more different to me and they will very much complement each other in a small setup.

I think there is some similarity in the crossover shots, granted, Deadpool is not a jumping crossover, and also the angled bar target to the Snikt..I thought I heard JD they may look into coding something off of that, if it would ricochet into the overlord for example...The turn around ramp is pretty similar as well...granted I haven't played it but that is just from observation, so feel is probably completely different

Ok these are both fair points. I will give FF the nod for having boatloads more flow, though.

not to say they are the same but DP and FF both have similar art style and pick your mode structure and maybe the mini DP modes are similar in concept to the Overlord (3 different modes on both).

Yeah it looks to be a flow monster. There is some classic Gomez clunk (albeit good clunk ) absent from FF from what I can see

Finally got a chance to play both the Pro and Premium today at the MGC(Midwest Gaming Classic), and since I blindly ordered a premium after the Deadflip stream, I am now super glad I did, this game is awesome!! Foo won the Players Choice Award for Modern Pinball Game at the show as well. Managed to even get into the Top 10 leaderboard for the weekend, and won a cool little Stern Insider coin, made 7th ranking for the weekend! Both Pro and Premium play great, so many great combos and loops. Although I do feel the pro feels just a little empty without the physical alien saucer and upper playfield. Can't wait for my Premium!!!! I even remodeled my basement gameroom(knocked out a wall and added another 3ft) specifically to fit Foo Fighters into my gameroom!

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I had so much confidence in this pin, I sold our Met Prem to purchase the prem …..and rent a house on the ocean in a Gulf Shores for the whole family Just got back ,what a great place to vacation .I’m a professional when it comes to keeping my wife happy with the pins taking up most our home theatre room .Gotta do what you gotta Foo ! I’ve had a Met Pro and Prem so the MOP will arrive here one day .Probably a retirement gift to myself in 9 years Now get this pin delivered !!!

As a person who hasn't played a premium yet, what made you decide premium over pro. Is the upper playfield any actual fun? I haven't gotten the chance yet to check one out.

.I have not liked many uppers ,but with a spinner ,2 loops ,2 stand ups and 1 kickback to go along with a pass through it just seems this will flo well and I’m liking what I’m hearing about how they’re using it with the story .The death save is just a bonus

Don't forget expression lighting doesn't work on the Pro.

Yes, Jack Danger confirmed that Tanio confirmed the coop mode. And the setting for the coop mode is included in the manual.

When it comes to fun upper playfields, I like tspp, shadow, and twilight zone. So I'm not against them. Hope to try the premium this week finally.

Please report back and let us know your thoughts on the upper playfield. Not a foo fighters fan but I’m trying to workout if I should grab a pro or prem, the layout just looks too much fun to pass up.

I played the Premium at MGC yesterday and now have time on both models. The upper playfield is one of the better one's I've played. It's rather quick and doesn't really slow down the flow of the game. I found that it was easier for myself anyways to start Area 51 on the Premium as I felt I had pretty good control over the ball and shots. I was generally able to start it within 2-3 trips up the right ramp vs. 5 on the Pro. The molds on the Premium also look really nice and the game looks really packed. The Deadpost also worked flawlessly during my time on the game. The magnet in the Overlord area seemed to be more for show than gameplay but it was still pretty cool.

With that being said, I didn't see the upper playfield as any kind of a must-have feature on the game but I didn't dislike it either. I wouldn't see it as a reason not to own a Premium, but I also am totally fine with not having the playfield and having a more open looking game and a more predictable Area 51 MB start. I feel the same on the Deadpost. it's cool, but I don't need it. For me, I didn't see an extra $2500 worth of enjoyment on the Premium so I ordered a Pro because I think the Pro is still 99% as much fun to play, It just doesn't look quite as cool on the playfield and is missing a couple of cool but unnecessary bells and whistles. If the Premium were only $1250 more than the Pro I would have considered it but I'd rather put that extra money into a different game.

I haven’t played the premium yet but expect I’ll feel the same about the upgrades. Had expression lighting been available on the pro, I would have gotten a pro myself.

After getting EL on my Rush pro, it’d an absolute must have on any games I’m interested in going forward. It’s a shame Stern forces you to get the premium/LE for them now, unlike on LZ and Rush

It’s a shame at 9500 a prem doesn’t come with them as LZ did .

Sure, but the bigger bummer is the add-on light kits are extremely rare!

Well after playing all the new games including bond 60th at MGC, FF was by far my favorite. All the new games are good but if I could only choose 1 it would be foo. I already had probably 20 games or so on a pro before heading out to MGC so I was looking forward to seeing how the premium stacked up.

As of right now, its a tough call for me. The upper playfield on the premium really didn't do much for me. The ball whips up there so fast its often hard to even time the flipper quick enough to hit the ball. I'm sure you could get very good at it with practice. Batting the ball around up there was fun for a small upper playfield. Certainly the best small upper playfield in a long time (dare I say ever?). I liked how it seemed easier to start Area 51 multiball up there than on the pro as well. Doing anything up there on purpose during a multiball is madness, its more you just hope you get a lucky hit. All that said, I can't say I can't live without it. Not sure I'd miss it all that much if I only owned a pro.

The deadpost on the other hand...it was really cool. I've been trying to convince myself that having the virtual ball save is good enough but man, its so satisfying and cool to pull off that deadpost save. I really want it.

The sculpts on the premium look great too, like really well done. I do think the mod community will tackle those issues just fine for the pro owners though.

I also like the pro artwork better.

Its a tough call for me. The premium is very cool, but I have a hard time saying its really worth an extra $2700 when the pro is this good. All I can say for sure is that you will be very happy with whatever version of this game you get. Since I'm poor I think I will be happy enough with a pro

and I see the magnet getting refined to use as a tractor beam to suspend and or capture a ball.

Would be cool.
The one thing that has bugged me on Pro Vs Prem is that magnet. I haven’t seen the value on that Mech for Prem; would be nice to have more with that magnet arena on the premium.

Well in LZs defense (sorta), there wasn't a lot in that game to begin with. The least they could do was add that in the premium.

This would be awesome, its one of the reasons I keep Turtles around, all the cool mode options (incl co-op) just make it such a fun game. I was shocked we havent seen that kinda code in more games.

I think the super JP on Area 51 on the premium is the upper stand up in the back of the upper PF while on the pro the SJP is the captive ball. To me it just seems like I’d be more interesting or challenging to hit the SJP on the premium. Not a major deal but just a little nicer having the upper PF to play with.

I understand that all the extra bits like the extra flipper mechanism and extra spinner or stand ups and Dead post don’t cost a lot so it’s not like that’s the reason why the premium costs $2600 extra but they are worth something as are the magnet and the nicer sculptured toys.

Iirc someone sells a little doll figurine for maiden that looks very dope, I’m not complaining but it costs $550 for a little 3 inch figurine. Is it necessary? No but if you can afford it it’s nice to have. I kind of think of the premium price like that.

I’m not saying the pro is bad, I own and enjoy both TWD and Met pro. But if the premium is even a bit better like my DP with the loop ramp or the Dead post on FF that would be almost enough to me for the cost as well as getting the nicer figurines etc.

Man I am so sad I didn't make more of an effort to put up a better score on Elvira. That was my first game of the day. I only played 2 other games and 1 of them was with 2 other dudes. When I left sat I was still on top, but I knew I left a lot on the table. Still I'm happy I had the highest score on Rush this weekend

The upper field reminds of aerosmith, small, super fast, and multiple targets. I had a pro and prem aerosmith and much preferred the play of the premium. Prem/le FF looks ,in my eyes, to be the funner game.

Oof. Not a good sales pitch for me.

Agree! The only bummer is the green paint pen I had I thought was fluorescent but it wasn’t so the signature is a little more muted but it still looks great!

Compared to black knight or gnr, aerosmith is much better

I tend to prefer small flippers on upper PF. Like Tspp is my favorite. It’s harder to control the ball so it’s more split second flipping on the run.

When are le pins going on the line?? Sorry if this has been asked and answered

Foo Pro home and in the line up! Super happy with the game so far. Might work on adjusting the pitch a bit, but otherwise playing great!

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They are currently. The stern factory friday videos are a week behind. I’d imagine they begin to ship to individuals starting later this week.

Same with me, I rarely buy the pro model usually it's an LE however after the rare opportunity to play both before making the decision, there was a clear winner....ditch the upper palyfield! FF looks like it has potential for being much better than the Aerosmith one!

You can hit it with a ricochet from the drop targets, too.

I’ll clarify by saying that’s the only direct way. Of course there are lots of ricochets off stuff like the drop targets that can make the turnaround shot.

The price difference used to be $1600ish more from a Pro to Prem and $3000ish from pro to Le.

Recently we are looking at $2700ish more from Pro to Prem and $6000 Pro to LE.

The spreads are wider so one can take that into consideration if they wish.

Pro works fine for me when I factor in price. I won’t say it’s overall better or anything though besides better “for me”.

Jurassic Park LE cost less than a Premium now. It is pretty wild and upgrading from the Pro will always be "a bad deal" but sometimes you just want a feature.