I'm just amazed the pro already has black powdercoat. All those ones shown so far as alternatives don't do it for me.

I am looking for an le if anyone has access to one. Any help would be appreciated

I combed through the release announcement assets yesterday and had opinions. Enjoy!

Game looks great, innovative, fun. Cannot stand the band. Repetitive sound, bleh. Sorry, no matter how good the pin, you take a chance building a band theme. I know many will love it, but I never liked the Foo. Hope those that buy it find silverball nirvana.

Isn't black crinkle powdercoat normal on a modern Stern?

No idea honestly..I'm just used to the low end model being unpainted normally.

Check out Joystix or Hemispheres, they had them in stock or appeared to on their websites

I had the same exact experience, minus actually seeing them in concert and do enjoy the band, but had a Metallica (all time favorite band, went to a concert, etc. ) and sold it as for me it felt too wood choppy as well as I prefer more of a story\adventure type of pin and decided music pins weren’t for me, but after that reveal and layout, I am now contemplating switching from getting a Jurassic Park Prem (June run) to a FF premium as I will soon have a Godzilla and while I know JP is different from GZ, really anxious to try Jack’s first cornerstone design as well as support him too as I’ve always been a fan of everything he does.

Oh what to do, I know first world problems here.

Either way, exciting times.

Lack of competition in Ontario is disturbing. Can get a US LE and have it cross border shipped though. It's not hard at all.

All good points. I think these LEs will hold value. I don't think Bond LEs will.

And like clockwork.... the scumbag flippers begin to emerge.

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How about the drummer from Nirvana?

I used to immediately change my rubber out from black to white...but in recent years, I've just been lazy & the stock rubber doesn't seem to get my games too dirty. I definitely want to try changing a bunch of my newer games to Titans at some point.

Still some left, found one for msrp, but this is a popular title, they are selling out from what the distros told me.

If i can take having an Iron Maiden in my game room and haven’t hung myself….This will do just fine.

Some advice from FF:

Done, done, on to the next one
Done, I'm done and on to the next one
Done, done, on to the next one
Done, I'm done and I'm on to the next!!!!!!!!

Is this where the kicking target is? Just wondering how this factors into gameplay. Is it a random chaos thing, or does the ball roll into it if you don't use the upper flipper? I don't think I've encountered a game with one of these before.

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It kinda reminds me of the Colossal target on Deadpool being pointed away from the flippers (or Roadshows magic left standup)...

It seems like it's mostly for extra chaos? It's basically a slingshot where the arm and switch are combined into one unit. Gottlieb would substitute slingshots for these kicking targets on some games.

I imagine a secret skill shot is going to be soft plunging onto the kicker?

That would be cool. I’m wondering if the kicking target is strong enough to send the ball up the center left ramp.

I think the Pro looks pretty good. I have enough upper playfields in my collection so I think I could live without. Can’t wait to see how the game shoots.

They work like a one way pop bumper.

Distros always say that..that's part of the fomo.

Thought this would be useful to easily see the differences in Pro vs Premium...

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Why not just hook up the machine to an external sub? That's what I do. The upgraded speakers have great mids and highs, but an external sub shakes the room. My MET with upgraded speakers and an external sub sounds insane!

You use the typical Polk or something else?

Polk PSW10 is great

I've done all that and nothing compares to the sound of pinwoofer. It's not even close. It's amazing what you can't hear with the stock audio on the game, ehoh for example, changed the game. But, I pretty much buy them for games I know I'll keep

Charlie sold out of LE’s has premiums still.

And I'm betting the soundtrack is going to be off the charts here!!

Can Premiums sell out? I plan to wait and play this at TPF to see if I like pro vs premium. I’ve held off on owning any new Sterns, since I can play them all at several nearby locations, but FF might make me cave so I can get the in-home sound experience.

People say this with every release, every year, with every "woke disney" rant, and it never happens.

No, I don't think this is going to be the first game with "DLC." But hey I've been wrong before.

People already trip over themselves to spend $1000-$2000 on toppers and accessories… but a $100 dlc is unthinkable because…. Its software?

‘They could have just included it’ argument applies equally to their $15 dollar art blades, etc.

Expansion for sale is just another accessory - people got over that too.

Now if micro transactions or season packs become a thing… that’s where the real pain accumulates

Didn't they just release a topper for another game that added stuff to the game? Seems the DLC thing has already happened.

Actually there are some differences.

$13K is $87,000 less than a $100,000 car

A Hellcat is a car, and a Stern LE is a pinball machine

I'd say these are pretty significant differences!

Okay this is the same pitfall video games went down. You justify it because of X....it only gets worse from there. Microtransactions is exactly what this leads to. The whole point of complaining about it is there's a difference between making a complete game, and purposely holding things back for the very purpose of milking your customer. It is NOT the same thing as coming up with things later. I realize there's a lot of business minded people on this site so you think it's good business, but the reality is as a consumer, (or even as a business person) there's a certain level of respect for your consumer you should show, and it's become very clear in the last decade (if not longer) that there is no respect for the consumer. There's a very valid reason so many people are disenfranchised and have no brand loyalty any more. Of course, none of this will matter because 'it's my money'. I'm just pointing out the very valid reasons for the complaints.

If you ignore all the stuff that makes them different, then you'd realize they're actually pretty similar

I’ve proven that thinking wrong on location. It’s not the rings creating the dirt on modern sterns. I’ve done the swap on games and compared- no notable improvement. It is more the coil mechs.

Having magnets in godzillas bumper cap is interesting because you can watch the black dust setting in the magnetic field pattern… because the dirt is ferrous metal dust

A soft flipper through Rami will drop it right on that Kicking Target.

If I placed it next to TMNT would I get confused which game is which?

No. TMNT would be the one nobody is playing.

Just listening to the pod cast. There are a line of Foo toys based on the Saturday morning cartoon premise that will interact with the topper? That'll be interesting.

That bridge was crossed long ago. With editions… accessories… now insanely priced toppers. Game over man…

And what happened with those moves? People still can’t help themselves but lie cheat and screw your neighbor to fight over artificial scarcity.

We have seen the enemy… and the enemy is us

Wait...did you just trash talk a Stern game??

Thanks Kermit. I believe I got his last one. First NIB LE ever. Will look cool next to AFMr.

I do it all the time. Rush blows. I didn't care much for AIQ.

You guys have all invented your own narratives about me.

Is there a Stern game you do fancy?

you’re so vain, I haven’t even thought about you

You guys have all invented your own narratives about me</blockquote

I like Don's narrative the best

Get better.

I mean eventually there is a "first" so will be wrong at some point. The JP topper was the first pay extra for new mode attempt, but not downloadable, you buy hardware to unlock.

This is probably the first game release where Seth was at Stern from the beginning of the 18 month development cycle.

Premiums don't sell out until Stern stops making them, which won't happen for a long time so you can absolutely wait and play it at TPF before deciding which tier you want. The only reason to buy now is to get one sooner, otherwise you'll be able to get a Prem or Pro no problem. LE is the only limited FF.