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The Flintstones: Game resets after ColorDMD install

By Brewchap

3 years ago


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#5 3 years ago

Unless you have a Kahr board installed (that creates a dedicated 5V input to the CPU from the unregulated 12V supply), overloading 12V will not drop the 5V line and cause a reset. You might blow a fuse but it won't have any impact on 5V. Installation of the ColorDMD won't cause this problem.

Resets are usually caused by 5V dipping due to coupling in the transformer and triggered when the high power coils are switching on and off and pulling a lot of current all at once. They're most common when hitting both flippers at the same time in rapid succession. If the output cap on the 5V supply isn't holding the voltage well, the voltage on the 5V line will fluctuate. When the 5V line dips below the watchdog voltage level, the CPU resets.

You're seeing it happen in multiball because that's when the coils are firing the most. If you can produce the problem when hitting both flippers, you'll see it happens with the display connected or disconnected.

#13 3 years ago
Quoted from DumbAss:

+12VR is REGULATED and generated by Q2 from +18VU from BR1 from J101. Shown in red. Power is distributed to J114 to the CPU. The Kahr board sits between J114 and J210 and (presumably) uses an on-board regulator that regulates the +12VR to +5VR substituting the original +5VR from the power board with its own supply.

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware that the Kahr board runs off the regulated 12V supply.

#14 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

That is borderline. Can you reseat J101, J102, J114 and J210 and retest the voltage at C31? Then see if you still get resets.

Great catch from PinballManiac. If you have 5V at the power driver board and only 4.9V at the CPU, there's probably a voltage drop across one of the headers. If the voltage increased from 4.9 to 4.98, that may have helped.

Quoted from Brewchap:

I only have the problem with the ColorDMD is connected. Not a problem at all with the original display. Flipping the flippers at the same time does not reboot the pin with the original display.

If you're still having issues, monitor the voltage on C31 while flipping both flippers in rapid succession and see if it fluctuates. Start multiball on the game and do the same thing.

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from Brewchap:

Just found this. Something else to fix before I go any farther. J115 Not sure if this is my problem, but I would like to fix it correctly.
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The GI hack is strange for sure, but I also don't see the ColorDMD wire harness in that photo. Where do you have it connected?

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