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The First Rule is.... Fight Club 20th anniversary homebrew build


By Mbecker

2 years ago



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    #351 46 days ago

    I am two years late to the party, but this is awesome! Following this to conclusion!

    #352 46 days ago

    Yeah I think that script is a little off now that I look at it. Oh well, the yardstick was what I was referencing.

    Probably gonna watch it this weekend, that’s a twice a year movie for me.

    #353 46 days ago
    Quoted from atum:

    I am two years late to the party, but this is awesome! Following this to conclusion!

    Better late than never, welcome!!

    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Yeah I think that script is a little off now that I look at it. Oh well, the yardstick was what I was referencing.
    Probably gonna watch it this weekend, that’s a twice a year movie for me.

    Damn, that’s def more than me although I watched it prob 20 times a bit after it was out on dvd and then quite a few after that through the years

    #354 46 days ago

    Started off tonight with trying to get this little 5” lcd to work. This is **supposed to Show the feed from the webcam, looking at the lower playfield. 12v hooked up, plugged in to computer .. and just flickers. Messed with it a while in settings, and no dice. Giving up. Going to find a 7” lcd with better res. That hopefully works.
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    On to trying to get MPF reverted back to a version that worked. An hour there, no dice. Old installs giving me grief. Frustrating.

    On to a couple GI strings on left side and call it a night. Oh.. and meanwhile this was Test printing — model courtesy of toyotaboy .. the sculpture from the movie they blow off its mount to smash the franchise coffee bar. When gold filament arrives I will reprint and detail the indentations in black.
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    Well mostly irritating evening progress wise, so a little whiskey to sooth the soul ha! Cheers, have a good night ya’ll.

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    #355 46 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    meanwhile this was Test printing — model courtesy of toyotaboy .. the sculpture from the movie they blow off its mount to smash the franchise coffee bar. When gold filament arrives I will reprint and detail the indentations in black.

    you actually don't want to print in gold.. it'll just end up tan. You want to print in white or black, then spray paint metallic gold. Trust me

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    #356 46 days ago

    Good to know! White with gold spray it is!! Might just try painting the pink one I have.. but now what am I going to do with all that gold filament I ordered?!? Lol

    #357 45 days ago

    Uninstalled everything python, deleted folders.. reinstalled fresh annnddd...

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    No dice. Still broken. I don’t know what to do at this point, but batting the ball around by hand will get old fast. Fortunately I can still test lights switches and coils w/out mpf so I can slog ahead for now.

    In mean time, designed my first prototype part — GI light bracket.
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    Still tweaking but it works good... this one was modified with the grinder
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    #358 45 days ago

    I see gold GI light sockets in your future

    #359 45 days ago

    Were you able to print the sockets with the tab down? Did it still give you the shelf you were looking for to hold the light?

    #360 45 days ago

    Yeah — tab down worked, still had a shelf. But the shelf could be cleaner inside... I want to try it filleted on the edge - it should be able to print cleanly that was I think rather than abruptly changing diameters 2mm.

    #361 43 days ago

    No luck on mpf today, but given that I need to get win10 anyways, thinking about just picking up a new (used) dev laptop and starting fresh.

    Just about done stringing GI lights though..
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    3D printer is giving me grief with stringy crap on prints, been trying to adjust settings to no avail.
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    #362 43 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    I need to get win10 anyways, thinking about just picking up a new (used) dev laptop and starting fresh.

    you can get an OEM copy of windows 10 for $25 on ebay. I debated the same thing when windows 7 lost update support.

    #363 43 days ago

    Got the lettering to glow using a white LED, but that outside swoop is definitely going to need to be EL wire.. it's just too thin of an area

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    #364 43 days ago

    I was wondering about those $25 copies.. saw them but they sounded slightly sketchy. But the other part of the equation is mpf and being stuck in the mud with that, and I’m having trouble getting my 7” monitor to work thru the vga port on the laptop. Will prob debate it a bit more.

    Dude, that sign looks so good with the lighting!!! I’ve got the el wire working so together those should look amazing!!!

    #365 42 days ago

    Switched slicers and cura is doing a much better job with initial settings — ok to print a mass of these BEA833A3-15A3-4E44-9154-17A184E6B54A (resized).jpeg

    Mpf is back up and running thanks to some assistance from wolfmarsh — so nice to have that running again!

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    #366 40 days ago

    GI test, trying some effects tied to Switches:

    exciting stuff in the mail- should be doing some testing by Saturday.

    7” lcd displaying lower playfield. Testing coming up to determine feasibility and then placement/orientation in comparison to inserts ..

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    Thinking about a vertical portrait orientation but I’m not sure that’s the best.. I have some ideas about a dual input that switches Between displaying The lower pf (when active) and scoring / few animations during normal play plus random 1 frame Tyler snippets. Not sure if I can handle the switching in software or via a board driver or something physical (servo switch?)

    #367 37 days ago

    Got distracted with inserts for a while.. thinking about fit vs lcd. 5” lcd arrived today, I like the fit better but it will come down to playability probably.
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    12 hours to print a spool for this filament to size it down to the shaft it spins on. Coulda cut some wood but this was more fun.. now that it’s done, 10 hour overnight print for something to try tomorrow ..
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    #368 36 days ago

    First test fitting of billboard / ball lock. Got most of the parts, matter of assembly / adjustment.

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    #369 36 days ago

    Lous tavern and medical bldg, upgraded versions with lighting — awesome work by toyotaboy!

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    #370 22 days ago

    Couple updates from last 2 weeks.. first off been doing a lot of printing.. brackets, inserts, etc.. the inserts are for layout testing but I will use them hopefully this round on this proto playfield to save costs.. they work well enough.

    Working on subways and buildings, haven’t printed any yet.

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    #371 22 days ago

    Second, working on last of GI. Got upper lane guide GI in.

    Also wiring the mini-playfield. Started going amigo style with my old JY harness, scavenging for the banded color wires.

    Also spent some time going thru all my docs and ideas and made up a binder. Super helpful for wiring and keeping track of ideas and such.

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    #372 22 days ago

    Lower pf is all wired, switch and coil-wise. 8 drivers and 16 switches. It needs to be cleaned up, but all is functioning minus what appears to be a board problem for the smart drop.

    I am obviously biased, but I think this thing is pretty packed and is super fun to play even w/out lights, art, sound, points, etc lol. Hope to grab a video tomorrow, and test play thru a 5” and 7” LCD to see feasibility.

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    #373 22 days ago

    you've become a modeling / 3d printing fiend!

    #374 21 days ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    you've become a modeling / 3d printing fiend!

    I know it’s all your fault!! Hahaha I enjoying it way more than I thought I would.. the modeling takes time but is so rewarding to print something to meets its requirements and fills a need. I have a list of stuff waiting to model — got a paper design for doors for lous tavern I am excited to model and print for 1.

    #375 21 days ago

    Lower pf, finally testing LCD’s — first, just a video of lower pf Play:

    Then, thru 7” lcd:

    The 5” I need a different hdmi cord to test. Likely going with 5”, just fits better and closer between slings. Alternatively it does appear to fit centered in apron but I’m not sold on that

    #376 21 days ago

    Testing lighting thru 3D printed material

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    #377 20 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    Lower pf, finally testing LCD’s — first, just a video of lower pf Play:

    Then, thru 7” lcd:

    The 5” I need a different hdmi cord to test. Likely going with 5”, just fits better and closer between slings. Alternatively it does appear to fit centered in apron but I’m not sold on that

    You aren't going to get the latency close with that setup.
    You'll need a cmos ( analogue ) camera and a composite ' in' on the monitor.
    over 5 millli seconds of delay and it's unplayable, the ball is past the flipper before you react.
    I went thru several monitors and the latency on hdmi /vga monitors is anywhere between 5 - 40 ms delay.
    A digital camera is even worse.
    You only have to wave your hand in front of your smart phone camera to see this in action.

    This is played from the monitor


    #378 20 days ago

    GREAT choice in printers !!!

    #379 20 days ago
    Quoted from kaboom:

    You aren't going to get the latency close with that setup.
    You'll need a cmos ( analogue ) camera and a composite ' in' on the monitor.
    over 5 millli seconds of delay and it's unplayable, the ball is past the flipper before you react.
    I went thru several monitors and the latency on hdmi /vga monitors is anywhere between 5 - 40 ms delay.
    A digital camera is even worse.
    You only have to wave your hand in front of your smart phone camera to see this in action.
    This is played from the monitor

    Ah good, glad you chimed in - I know you had messed with it quite a bit. So ditch the web camera and go direct into the monitor ? Curious if you had link or specs to what you used? Latency wasn’t great with this setup but was playable. Would love to get get it down for sure

    #380 19 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    Ah good, glad you chimed in - I know you had messed with it quite a bit. So ditch the web camera and go direct into the monitor ? Curious if you had link or specs to what you used? Latency wasn’t great with this setup but was playable. Would love to get get it down for sure

    For what you're doing a simple 12 volt automotive monitor and a reversing camera .
    They usually have dual channels av1 av2 (& hdmi in some larger units ) a switch line or signal sense
    to flip the input displayed.
    The hdmi could be general animations and the composite in for realtime video

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    #381 18 days ago
    Quoted from kaboom:

    For what you're doing a simple 12 volt automotive monitor and a reversing camera .
    They usually have dual channels av1 av2 (& hdmi in some larger units ) a switch line or signal sense
    to flip the input displayed.
    The hdmi could be general animations and the composite in for realtime video
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    Thank you!! Definitely appreciate this guidance - that makes sense to skip the computer altogether, and digital cameras— hadn’t even considered it. I’ve been trying to think thru how to dual use the monitor for the lower pf when in use and player score,etc other times — if you have 2 inputs into the monitor how do you select one or the other in real time?

    I’ve been thinking about a dual input single out selectable a/b sort of splitter box but it would be mechanical and require a servo .. know there must be a better solution

    #382 18 days ago

    Working from home mostly now so lots of time to babysit the printer..
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    Here’s the placeholder it’s replacing — big improvement, hey?
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    Added in Clear insert of windows. It will be lit from inside with 3 rgb GI lights, and something special to do the burning happy face windows from the film.
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    #383 18 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    Thank you!! Definitely appreciate this guidance - that makes sense to skip the computer altogether, and digital cameras— hadn’t even considered it. I’ve been trying to think thru how to dual use the monitor for the lower pf when in use and player score,etc other times — if you have 2 inputs into the monitor how do you select one or the other in real time?
    I’ve been thinking about a dual input single out selectable a/b sort of splitter box but it would be mechanical and require a servo .. know there must be a better solution

    The monitors have signal sense on channel 2 or a switched +/- in - you would normally hook up to your reversing switch / light
    & always reverts back to channel 1

    #384 18 days ago

    Make a nice fireproof enclosure. Never worry about watching the printer again. All steel and tempered glass. I also have a dry chemical extinguisher on top. It’s temperature controlled and uses a low speed fan with attic fan controller

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    #385 17 days ago
    Quoted from kaboom:

    The monitors have signal sense on channel 2 or a switched +/- in - you would normally hook up to your reversing switch / light
    & always reverts back to channel 1

    Perfect— thanks!

    hoby1 thats quite the containment system !! I love it, but if I start in in that I’ll never get this pinball done - gotta stay focused for now part of my babysitting is just making sure it’s not f’ing up the prints 2 hours in so at 5 or 6 hours I’m happy with what came out but yeah- the other part is certainly a fire concern

    #386 17 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    Perfect— thanks!
    hoby1 thats quite the containment system !! I love it, but if I start in in that I’ll never get this pinball done - gotta stay focused for now part of my babysitting is just making sure it’s not f’ing up the prints 2 hours in so at 5 or 6 hours I’m happy with what came out but yeah- the other part is certainly a fire concern

    Your doing an amazing job my friend .... Keep up the GREAT work !!!

    #387 17 days ago

    3 GI lights, can get kinda cool lighting on the bldg. 65C8EDC0-9638-4A1F-B6CA-D80E482EDA35 (resized).jpeg

    Printed a light cap for the smiley part of the face — this is one option, would like it a little brighter so I’m going to try a laser pointer but could pair two lights in this or something too65D7CFF6-8A22-4973-B4EA-8A090473E4F2 (resized).jpeg

    #388 14 days ago

    Decided to tackle one of the most difficult models.. the house... hours in so far, lots left to do. Several gi will light it from the inside and it’s hiding an integrated switch bracket for the wireform and routes thru it. Led light over the porch

    Build it new first, undetailed for fit.. then go back and add a few things. It needed some adjustments from the original house in the movie in order to get balls up the porch. In the end, it may come down to replacing the motorized 2bank for a smart drop like afm.. it would certainly fit better but I’m not positive I want to go that route.

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    #389 12 days ago

    Comparison right now and Taking a look at the wireform path thru the building. Leaning towards that single drop target at the porch vs the 2-bank

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    #390 12 days ago

    cool stuff. I realize you probably did it for ball/target fitment, but the porch roof being the wrong size would drive me nuts. I think I need to watch the movie again, been way to long don't remember details.

    #391 12 days ago
    Quoted from BorgDog:

    cool stuff. I realize you probably did it for ball/target fitment, but the porch roof being the wrong size would drive me nuts. I think I need to watch the movie again, been way to long don't remember details.

    We shall see.. I think once printed you won’t notice.. esp as it just one detail and building of many. The issue is that even if I go the single drop route, the shot would be super tight if I shrink the porch. Planning on doing a print soon just to get an idea how things are looking though

    #392 12 days ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    Decided to tackle one of the most difficult models.. the house... hours in so far, lots left to do. Several gi will light it from the inside and it’s hiding an integrated switch bracket for the wireform and routes thru it. Led light over the porch

    I don't know if you own that house, or you're just squatting. Neither would surprise me

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    #393 1 day ago

    Looking great! A 3D printer is an incredible tool to have!

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