For those of you who got the CPR plastics: how does one detach and reattach the metal posts for the middle-right ball lock plastic? I noticed that the piece doesn't include them in it.

Warm up the plastic and pull the metal posts off. Then, reshape the tip and fit it back into the new plastic.

Likely won't damage the new plastics, I hope? Just enough to slide the metal in?

Don't do it! Firepower II has a cheap silkscreen playfield. You are better off scanning the playfield and making a decal if you are going to do it. But I warn you, more damage than what it is worth.

I'd ask Vid that in his play field restoration thread. Throw in some pics, and I'm sure he will have an answer.

I have an extra set, front and back. I can save you the trouble and send them to you if you like. They are printed on vinyl and I would probably cover them with a clear piece on top just for added protection. When I printed mine, I loaded up the sheet with spinner and standup target decals. No point in wasting material and money.

At some point I have to print some decals for a Black Knight that I just picked up so I can add some more Firepower decals to that sheet.

Let me know if you want them.

The box arrived yesterday! Wife intercepted it and is wrapping it so I won't get into it until Christmas.

CPR Box

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC Pinball resets, the Pinball Pyramid, or my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

Can anyone confirm if the new PPS backglass is the dark red or bright red?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ann-firepower-backglasses-now-available#post-4109819

Yep, saw that post, but can't tell from the picture which version they finally went with. I know they discussed both a bright red and dark red as both were seen on the originals. The feedback they got seemed split on which to make. Just curious what the final decision was.

Once you guys confirm that the thing looks good, I'll probably order one as well.

Hey everyone, I have an issue with my game. Whenever I turn it on it looks like everything is good, but for only a split second. Then it will go into a test mode and will auto cycle through all the different tests very rapidly. The game seems to just about boot up and play, but just goes into the test mode and I can't get out of it. It just continually cycles in test over and over.

Any thoughts?

Well, after 2/3rds of a year, the spare play field restoration is complete! Popped her in tonight, and it works! Switch adjustment aside...it looks like she is good to go!

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That happened to me when the pass-through circuit behind one of the battery holder screw holders was not connected. Check those and see.

Thanks La_Porta, I will try that out

I believe it is the right-upper screw. I recall that a circuit runs from the front of the board to the rear through that hole, using the screw, of all things, to pass the electricity. Sometimes the design of these things baffles me.

Just ordered mine. Original is going in a frame on the wall.

Let me know how it is when it shows up. I'm interested in getting one, as well.

When I was having weird issues like that, replacing the 40 pin inter-board connector cured all ills. check the system 3-7 bullet proofing steps in this thread (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-bulletproofing-williams-system-6). Ialso replaced all of the cheap chip sockets with SIPs as recommended by Vid's thread. If you've already done this, I'm sorry I can't help .

Will do

I replaced those whenever I first got the game. It was working perfectly fine, then unfortunately I had to store it for a few months while I was looking for a new place. Now that I'm in the new house, I set it up and it started having issues.

I know it can't be anything major because one time a few days ago it actually booted up, but I couldn't start a game. So I started checking connectors and then the same issue started happening again.

Thanks for all the input, I will look at it again this evening.

My CPR plastics look great! The only problem is I just realized I forgot to take the extra white backing off of the rear of them! When you install yours, don't forget that there is coating on both sides.

When I got my game I applied triple-thick to the backglass - I think that's a pretty common practice to protect the paint. Curious if remakes such as these for Firepower should get the treatment or do the folks making them these days already apply a protective clear. Anyone know? If you are getting a new one, what are your plans?

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC Pinball resets, the Pinball Pyramid, or my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

That’s a good question. Unless you are manhandling it...id figure it would be ok. If you have LEDs, you aren’t going to bake it to death.

I rushed out and ordered the repro backglass but forgot I will probably need a trim kit to install it. Can someone recommend what size lift trim I should use? (I suppose I can wait until it comes in and measure it...or even better measure the original I have installed now).

Thanks!

You can't use the stiff from the existing back glass?

Gatecrasher sells a kit that I plan on ordering. I never used his kit but reviews are positive.

Unless someone can confirm the size, I need to wait until it arrives to determine if the 1/8" or 3/16" glass is used on these to order the right kit.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gatecrashers-hardware-vids-review/page/2

Both the original and this remake are 3/16". I ordered my glass last week and trim and they got here today!

Pics?

New FP backglass. The right side has window sunlight glare in the photo but overall the reds look darker and it’s a beauty. Now I just need a new lift channel and the plastic sides that I’ll order from Gatecrasher.

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We have new trim for firepower made from original prints - stainless steel as original as well as the PVC trim for Top/Sides

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=TRIM

Wow, that really does look nice. Which trim goes with this back glass?

Hi fellas,

I finished my restore! Everything came out great...of course, there is the little this and that that I wish was better, but it came out far better than I could have hoped at the start.

That being said, I have this "box o' parts" that I have left over. At this point, I know that a bunch of people need used plastics to replace theirs. My CPR set worked out great, so now I am willing to part with some of these originals. You can see some in the enclosed picture.

If you need something specific, send me a message privately and we'll talk.

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I'd be intersted in the sling shot plastics and the plastic on the left side near the lock hole.

Do you have the plastic for the upper left corner of the playfield?

I'd like to know too.

so, got my new backglass today from pps.

so disappointed, the red color if we can call it that, the chrome, bleeding... i feel like i was sent a test backglass, i look @masspinballfan's backglass and it looks much better/darker although i can see the chrome in the lower part doesn't look that great, the problem with mine is it's like that (chrome) all around.
sent a few pics to Rick to see if this can be fixed.

heres what i received's, is it a dark red, light red, pink or burgundy... let's see.

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Well, obviously that one should have not been shipped to us as we've had nothing but great reviews of this glass (as we would expect). I've forwarded to the supplier who will I'm sure review and address as needed. As with most pinball glasses we expect the supplier do the QA on them so we do not have to open them up and risk creating scratches, etc, so of course it's a problem if/when this happens ... I've notified the supplier who I'm sure will make this right.

rick

Well, the supplier in question is me. From the looks of the photos you posted... it looks like we had an employee that clearly was not paying attention and shipped you a faulty part. We call them “make ready” parts... never intended to ship, obviously. Sorry about the mistake! We (as we always do) wil get you out a good glass.

One remark I will make regarding the red though.... we spent an absorbant amount of time and effort reseaching the “correct red” for this title. What we found is that this glass was ran at least 2 times ... and maybe 3 times with different vendors during the original run. Greg Freres directly agreed that this happened from time to time and the color accuracy BETWEEN vendors was not always front burner. Basically I found after looking at many games and closely examining.. I belleive there are at least 2 reds that are different yet can be considered original.

Again, sorry Rick and to you for the woopsy. Simply email us if you experience an issue like this.. and we will correct problems.

Thanks for your patience!

Good job, both of you. That's how service should work.

Over in the project pin thread they posted a link to a Firepower 2 for $400... here's a link to the posting (which has the CL link): https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/post-project-pins-for-sale-here-cl-ebay-pinside-and-others/page/145#post-4129634

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets, the Pinball Pyramid, or Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions.

All i can say is, i'm impressed problem fixed in less than an hour.

I knew right out of the box there was something wrong, contacted Rick and he made it right.
thanks to Outsidedge for the fast reply, that's great customer service right there people.

i'll be waiting for the good glass. you guys rock!

That's really great to hear.

My apologies to everyone regarding the plastics. I recently fell ill on Monday, and am still recovering somewhat. I was not able to get back to all of you nor take the pictures. I promise to do so as soon as I can.

Received the replacement backglass today, a lot faster this time, impressive (it's the holidays).

Again, thanks to Rick, Bruce, David and everyone involved.
Amazing customer service, super fast communication and solution.

And i gotta say, it's night and day compare to the first one i received.

buy with confidence people!

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Looks really good! Can't wait to see when you are done the entire machine!

I don't care what this guy has in this machine, he is insane for asking this:

ebay.com link: Awesome Firepower Pinball 1980 machine by Williams New CPR Playfield

Haha. Let me just go find the cash machine. I love how it’s a selling point that a ball as never touched the new playfield. Umm, so this game could play like total shit for the cheap price of 7-8k? Where do I sign up?!?