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The Fastest of the Fast! (Help me make the definitive list)

By copperpot

11 years ago

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AC/DC (Pro) Stern, 2012
Bram Stoker's Dracula Williams, 1993
F-14 Tomcat Williams, 1987
No Fear: Dangerous Sports Williams, 1995
TRON: Legacy (Pro) Stern, 2011

#1 11 years ago

WES

copperpot

Pinside member

Gilbert, AZ

12y 67,900 1,589 9 54

Ironman: Fastest Around. Even GOOD games can be < 5 minutes long.
BSD: Fast and Frustrating, a close second to Ironman.
No Fear: No pops and full of loops and ramps.
F-14: Brutally fast and the kickback keeps you on your toes.
Tron: Set up difficult, this game can kick your ass before you even get started.
AC/DC Pro: Much faster than the Premium, the non-drop targets will rocket the ball back much faster than the Premium Drops.

What else goes in this list? What are the other fast and furious games out there?

#2 11 years ago

RND

RawleyD

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Roanoke, VA

14y 67,650 3,243 36

You forgot JM, probably the fast wms game out there.
It's really a blaze hitting those loops and ramps.

#3 11 years ago

YAY

jitneystand1

Pinside member

Valley, NE

15y 95,850 1,537 16 40

ACDC Pro is hands down the fastest game I have ever played. F14 and JM would be 2nd and 3rd, though I am unsure of which order to put them in. IM and NF round out the top 5. Honorable mention to BSD.

#4 11 years ago

?Z?

phishrace

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Unknown

12y 46,900 4,913

BBH came before IM during Stern's brief period when they were building games with really short ball times and no earnable extra balls. If you have IM up there, BBH has to be there too. Not a lot of flow (like IM), but plenty fast.

#5 11 years ago

SOS

sosage

Inactive member

Bay Area, CA

12y 32,650 848 4

How are we defining "fast"? Ball speed or punishing layouts?

Ball speed: JM is easily #1. Hit any 2 shot loop and spinner combo and watch the ball scream. Hit a third and it gets ridiculous. Luck out and flail a fourth and it becomes a blur.

Brutal Layout: a ton of games. Just surprised no one listed The Shadow yet.

#6 11 years ago

TDA

The_Dude_Abides

Pinside Moderator

Northern California, CA

14y 137K 9,468 151

Agreed, JM is IMO the fastest pin out there with no close second.

And phishrace makes a good point BBH is pretty damn fast. Another not highly rated pin that is very fast is ID4. IM is another pin that is fast fast fast.

#7 11 years ago

RND

RawleyD

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Roanoke, VA

14y 67,650 3,243 36

Quoted from sosage:
Ball speed: JM is easily #1. Hit any 2 shot loop and spinner combo and watch the ball scream. Hit a third and it gets ridiculous. Luck out and flail a fourth and it becomes a blur.

Best description of JM speed that I've ever heard. That's right on the money

#8 11 years ago

WES

copperpot

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Gilbert, AZ

12y 67,900 1,589 9 54

JM sounds awesome, I've never played it. I've never played ID4 or BBH for that matter, I'll add those to the list.

-Wes

#9 11 years ago

DEY

absocountry2

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Wasilla, AK

13y 82,050 7,424 29 72

Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:
Agreed, JM is IMO the fastest pin out there with no close second.
And phishrace makes a good point BBH is pretty damn fast. Another not highly rated pin that is very fast is ID4. IM is another pin that is fast fast fast.

I like my ID4 more everytime I go back and play it. I really like the ramps and how they move the ball.

#10 11 years ago

MVM

markmon

Inactive member

Hillsboro, OR

13y 98,300 13,010 21 81

Quoted from sosage:
Ball speed: JM is easily #1. Hit any 2 shot loop and spinner combo and watch the ball scream. Hit a third and it gets ridiculous. Luck out and flail a fourth and it becomes a blur.

Yea, JM gets so fast that if you're not careful and don't intentionally try to slow things down, the ball jumps the flipper. If that hand didnt exist, this might be one of the all around fastest games ever made.

#11 11 years ago

NAM

kwiKimart

Inactive member

San Diego, CA

12y 90,650 10,693 3 71

Quoted from sosage:
Brutal Layout: a ton of games. Just surprised no one listed The Shadow yet.

Shadow definitely has one of the toughest layouts in pinball. Period.

#12 11 years ago

TDA

The_Dude_Abides

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Northern California, CA

14y 137K 9,468 151

Quoted from absocountry2:
I like my ID4 more everytime I go back and play it.

Yeah that one surprised me for sure. I didn't think I would like it but as I played it the flow of the ramps combined with overall speed impressed me.

#13 11 years ago

NER

PinRaider

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Minneapolis, MN

12y 30,900 277 5

Another vote for JM once you hit a few loops it gets crazy fast.

#14 11 years ago

DAN

goatdan

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Wauwatosa, WI

20y 91,800 5,217 2 20

VNDs glo-balls weigh the same as a powerball, and the layout is all speed. If it is clean and set up right, its about IM fast. I have both near each other. You can keep the balls in play on VND easier though.

#15 11 years ago

BOY

vid1900

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Sana'a

12y 169K 40,259 18

IM is way fast, but I'd put a clearcoated F-14 (without Mylar) as the fastest.

#16 11 years ago

DJW

MrWizzo

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Emerald Isle, NC

12y 60,800 3,184 6

Even faster will be my F-14 with the top sling when you are finished VID. YEE-HAH!

Dan

#17 11 years ago

BOY

vid1900

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Sana'a

12y 169K 40,259 18

Quoted from MrWizzo:
Even faster will be my F-14 with the top sling when you are finished VID. YEE-HAH!
Dan

Now you're talkin' crazy

#18 11 years ago

DAV

Av8

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Melbourne Beach, FL

12y 78,800 2,768 4 9

Acdc Pro. Fastest Stern. Love the blinding speed. Sharp strong flippers. crazy stong slingshots. i had a sling shoot the ball up the ramp.

Bsd is fast too but more brutal then fast.

Tron is also really fast and i felt xmen had speed with those same flippers and slingshots that AC DC has.

#19 11 years ago

AST

Astropin

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11y 125K 8,906

Cool Thread......I love fast games. I'll have to look for JM.

#20 11 years ago

WES

copperpot

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Gilbert, AZ

12y 67,900 1,589 9 54

I'm starting to really enjoy fast pins, and I'm definitely going to be on the lookout to play a lot of these I've never even considered.

-Wes

#21 11 years ago

GKH

grh450

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Gold Canyon, AZ

14y 62,900 1,750 4

come on over for some ACKADACKA

#22 11 years ago

GKH

grh450

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Gold Canyon, AZ

14y 62,900 1,750 4

Quoted from Av8:
Acdc Pro. Fastest Stern. Love the blinding speed. Sharp strong flippers. crazy stong slingshots. i had a sling shoot the ball up the ramp.

only machine I have ever played, where there have been many times that I have actually LOST TRACK of the ball,for a second or two

#23 11 years ago

CCary

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11y 58,600 271 53

No one thinks BK2000 is fast? Guess not as fast as JM and AC/DC but still can get pretty fast I think. One of my all time favorites so I suppose I'm lil bias.

#24 11 years ago

SOS

sosage

Inactive member

Bay Area, CA

12y 32,650 848 4

Quoted from CCary:
No one thinks BK2000 is fast? Guess not as fast as JM and AC/DC but still can get pretty fast I think. One of my all time favorites so I suppose I'm lil bias.

Ball speed fast? I guess you can hit that upper loop all day and build speed. Maybe the U-turn shot, but it doesn't really flow to anything else to gain speed.

Fast as in brutal, yes. If you ever break from the monotony of the "lower right flipper into left ramp into upper playfield into lower right flipper to repeat" strategy and play the lower playfield, it is really brutal. But...why do that? This game's biggest weakness is in not making the lower playfield worth the risk.

#25 11 years ago

JMG

drbond

Inactive member

14y 62,400 1,473 7 85

Not on Coperpots list...

BK2K, JM, The Shadow, Rollergames, Corvette, Transformers Pro, Big Buck Hunter, Nascar

#26 11 years ago

JDW

JDub1006

Inactive member

Elkhorn, NE

12y 35,400 1,026 3 35

Quoted from drbond:
Not on Coperpots list...

BK2K,

+1. Should make the top ten here.

#27 11 years ago

DON

ilovegames007

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Westlake, OH

13y 61,800 687 4 20

acdc pro nothing compares

#28 11 years ago

SPeD66

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11y 54,900 908 6

Maybe I'm about to embarrass myself with this question, but can't you MAKE a pin fast? I understand that many pins are what they are, but I have a Taxi that was tweaked by a pinsider that plays like lightning. My Big Guns ain't no slouch either, mostly due to design with the cannons.
(For reference, I've played most of the pins listed in this thread. Most of the comments I agree with but a couple have me scratching my head. Maybe it's a "per condition" thing?)
Flame me if I deserve it. I'm a big boy.

#29 11 years ago

MJK

AbacusMan

Inactive member

College Place, WA

12y 46,400 1,515

BBH, woot!

#30 11 years ago

SEF

practicalsteve

GoldenStatePin

El Cerrito, CA

12y 104K 7,623 5

Quoted from SPeD66:
Maybe I'm about to embarrass myself with this question, but can't you MAKE a pin fast? I understand that many pins are what they are, but I have a Taxi that was tweaked by a pinsider that plays like lightning. My Big Guns ain't no slouch either, mostly due to design with the cannons.
(For reference, I've played most of the pins listed in this thread. Most of the comments I agree with but a couple have me scratching my head. Maybe it's a "per condition" thing?)
Flame me if I deserve it. I'm a big boy.

I totally agree with you there are definitely lots of things you can do to speed up your pin, but I think the point is pins that are designed to be fast. Sure you can raise the pitch on a TZ but that pin was not designed with speed in mind, While almost any Steve Ritchie game is designed to throw that ball straight down the middle as fast as it can.

#31 11 years ago

Shapeshifter

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13y 150K 10,470 8 144

Love fast pins.

ACDC pro fastest.

Then IM.

#32 11 years ago

BKC

pinster68

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Asbury Park, NJ

13y 114K 4,338 10 33

Never seen a faster ball than Tron, pun intended. It's a rare occurrence, but three times I had the ball burry itself behind the slingshot rubber fired from the Recognizer disc. Ball was a bullet, completely invisible. Left my jaw hanging open, and my eyes searching the playfield for what the f just happened.

#33 11 years ago

DAV

Av8

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Melbourne Beach, FL

12y 78,800 2,768 4 9

F14 is fast. Black knight 2k is fast on lower playfield.

Is High Speed worthy?

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