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The Crazy Mansion by the Pinball Amigos


By pinballrockstar

2 years ago



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    #298 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Spot the creepy spider

    You should have captured that spider... freeze dryed him... and added him to your game as a toy!

    #301 2 years ago

    Art... you live in Florida... have you never run into a banana spider's web while playing laser tag at night with your brother?

    2 months later
    #1394 2 years ago
    Quoted from markp99:

    The game uses inductive switches mounted on small PCBs under the playfield to sense a ball passing overhead.

    Did they provide schematics in the manual for that?
    I'd be curious what chip they are using for the sensing... as the TDAs are technically EOL and have been for years.

    Ohw,god i am low tech...
    That is real smart and clean.
    It is so different from anything else i owned?
    But different in a good way.

    I did the same thing for my Mirror Universe build so I didn't have to cut rollover slots in my PF. Makes the Art real clean. I wouldn't do it again based upon the old Williams TDA design because they drift due to temperature. I need to find a more modern design.

    #1400 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Gonna use the green acrylic and put a pulsing led underneath

    You should use a Candle Flicker LED


    in a Current mirror configuration so you can control multiple LEDs with it.

    Let me know if you need some help with the design. I'd be happy to contribute.

    #1402 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Supercool John,thanks

    Is that the look you want to go with?
    How many LEDs would you want to light up the toxic swamp?
    Would you want them to be synchronous or have them opposite so different when one LED is off; the other is on.

    #1411 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    4 will do the trick,in opposite config..are those in green too? Or maybe white John?

    If it were me... I'd do a yellow candle flicker... and then use standard Green LEDs in the mirror configuration.
    Do you want mountable little super bright Green LEDs?
    I think it might also be cool if you did some UV LEDs mounted near the GITD rubber?

    Powered from 6.3VAC?

    #1413 2 years ago

    I'll try to find some time this weekend to work on a design.
    I'll post here when I have something to report.

    #1415 2 years ago

    Amigos,
    Here's the first pass at an initial design for the Toxic Swap lighting.
    Initial schematics for Toxic Swamp Flicker

    LED1 is a 20mA 3mm Flicker LED. The current thru this led is fed from Q1 (a PNP transistor).
    The Collector of Q1 feeds the first branch of the current mirror driving LED2 using ~150mA of current.
    LED4 is a 20mA current leg... for putting standard LEDs such as a UV LED for lighting your GITD rubbers in the area.
    LED6 is a second current leg for another super bright 150mA green LED.

    Q4 is an Nchannel Fet which "inverts" LED1. This means when LED1 is on, LED3, LED5, and LED7 will all be off.
    When LED1 is off; LED3,5,7 will be on.
    Q4 source feeds the inverted current mirror made up of Q5,6, & 8.
    Like the non-inverted output LED3 and LED7 are 150mA super brights. and LED5 is a 20mA leg.
    LED1, LED2, LED3 must be populated both sides of the circuit to operate.

    I still need to put a diode bridge to feed V+.... and I want to add another two transistors to drive two more 150mA super brights.

    I have simulated with LTSpiceIV this circuit and it functions properly - putting confidence that the final circuit should work. I'll need to adjust the resistor values for a less than ideal 6.3V V+ ... which will be less with a bridge rectifier.

    #1421 2 years ago

    I've just about wrapped up the design of the Toxic Swamp LED array from a schematic capture / design perspective.
    I'm thinking about how to layout the design from a PCB perspective.

    I'm thinking one main board with the rectifiers and candle-Flicker LED. This board would be the larger of the boards and if there's room would mount behind the Mansion under the green acrylic. The board would have remote ports for each of the LEDs. You would wire in the remote leds and place them where you want under the plastic and/or near the GITD rubber on the sides.

    The question is how to mount the boards. Do you want to mount them under the plastic but above the wood of the PF? Or are you thinking about putting Inserts under the plastics in the PF for the SuperBright LEDs to shine through?

    I'm asking because I see you plan on using some of swamp area for the Mario Brothers PVC pipe... so I'm not sure how much room you'll have left for Inserts and/or PCBs. Let me know what you think.

    #1423 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Room is very limited in the swamp indeed,the mario brothers pipes use up a lot of real estate.
    So i was thinking pcb under the playfield,wires to the swamp area under the green plastic and mount the leds seperate as remote units.
    Is that possible?

    Yeah. That's why I asked. So you'll run wires up to the "remote boards" and mount the remote boards directly to the PF?
    I was kind of leaning that way in my mind; so this just confirms it.

    I'm assuming you want the smallest boards you can get? There is a small size limit; as you'll need a "pcb heatsink" to cool these LEDs at full 150mA. These funkers are going to be bright as hell... so I'm thinking a "dimmer" would be a good idea in case there is such a thing as too bright in this application.

    #1482 2 years ago

    Do you want to have a flicker board for under the mansion? Or is that already one or two of the four you were going to use?

    2 weeks later
    #1589 2 years ago

    I get more orders from Australian pinheads than Europe... More hardcore star trek fans in aus, i think.

    Have and update on the toxic swap i was going to post yesterday... But stle colordots... And throwing a belt in the truck last night ruined those plans

    #1591 2 years ago

    Amigos,
    Here's is the nearly complete PCB design for Toxic Swamp.
    Toxic Swamp

    The larger board in the middle is the main board you'd connect to 6.3VAC GI.
    The other boards are made to snap off the main board and position where you'd like.

    The lower 4 boards (Jx1,2) are interchangeable. LED 4,5 are UV Purple LEDs to light your GITD Titan Rubbers.
    LED 2,3,6,7,8,9 are all superbright green LEDs running at 150mA. LED1 on the main board is the candle flicker.
    LED 1,2,3 are required to be used for the other boards to be functional. You can you use as many of the other boards as you want to get the intended effect.

    Always wire a J connector to a P connector. Meaning:
    JP2 always connect to PP2. JN2 always connects to PN2 ect.
    There will be no connectors on the board as I'm assuming you are going to want to direct wire once you figure out how to install. If you want connectors; just let me know.

    R18 and R19 control the brightness of the "candle flicker" effect on the super green LEDs.
    R16 and R17 control the brightness of the flash effect on LED8 & 9.

    The main board measures approximately:
    1.1 x 2.4inches

    The LED boards measure approx:
    0.85 x 0.49 inches

    Each board has two mounting holes.

    #1594 2 years ago

    I'll work on the bom and pcb gerbers and let you know.

    1 week later
    #1655 1 year ago

    Amigos,
    White PCBs ordered from SeeedStudio for around $18USD for the Toxic Swamp.

    It'll be shipping via the slow boat from china (I assume); which is quoted 15-30days on top of a 5-9day production time. So I wouldn't expect them for at least a month.

    #1658 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    No problem,the pin won't be ready within that time frame!hahaha
    Do you need my adress?
    Do i need to paypal you some money?
    Let me know John,excellent!

    I got the Amigos covered for now... When the boards are tested and ready; then I'll ask for just the costs to cover materials + shipping. My time/labor is free to you guys for doing something awesome. IIRC, the LEDs are probably the second most expensive item in the BOM... I think they are around 1.50 each.

    2 weeks later
    #1795 1 year ago

    Was a little surprised that these came in today:

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    I checked the BOM for one PCB and it came in at $17/board + Shipping.
    I usually build two boards incase the first has issues; but let me know what the Amigos want to do.

    1 month later
    #2365 1 year ago

    Amigos - those wires don't look very beefy...
    Make sure they are a high enough gauge (AWG) to handle the current going to appropriate devices.
    Might be time to invest in a pair of Molex crimps and a spool of wire.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/CRIMP-TOOL-63811-1000-By-MOLEX/dp/B01I7QST7E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1515271457&sr=8-1&keywords=63811-1000

    3 weeks later
    #2676 1 year ago

    Been on a Star Trek Cruise, recovering from the flu, and my own project... so I just binge read 270 posts to catch up.

    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    See John Zitt!?
    Told you it was on its way from china

    Yeah! good to see. Use it in good health.

    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    We present to you:
    Lord Grimm,he owned the mansion sinds the 1800’s

    That eye is funking awesome. Am I the only one who thinks the Amigos to use a red fine tipped sharpie and put some read veins on the eyeball so it look bloodshot from excessive drinking... or to little sleep from the insane patients?

    1 week later
    #2763 1 year ago

    Great Update!

    Here's mine:

    I had to troubleshoot a bad resistor in the main flicker LED circuit which was causing 3 of the LEDs not to light.
    Once I figured that out; I had an issue with the UV LEDs I speced which seemed to be junk... they couldn't handle being soldered to the board?!
    I put a set UV 1206 LED I had in my parts bin... let me know if you guys want me to try and find a better UV LED.

    #2765 1 year ago

    PM sent, yes I have your address.

    2 weeks later
    #3026 1 year ago

    I'm not sure I'd smoke that moss... probably made in china with diesel fuel.

    1 month later
    #3323 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    his son is here tonight to look at his fathers masterpiece

    Lies. He's there to play Despicable Me and your other pins.

    2 weeks later
    #3505 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    .i needed stronger panels to feed my hungry Tesla

    If you didn't mash the pedal leaving every stoplight... your Tesla wouldn't be so damn hungry. ;D
    I envy you... as I'd really starting to want a Tesla... my issue is I can't seem to go for the cheap ones... cause I want one with the extended range.
    Oh well; maybe someone will send me a free winning loto ticket.

    1 month later
    #4019 1 year ago
    Quoted from mcbPalisade:

    I think you should rename this pin "Curse of the Black Thumbnail" : - )

    Or; "Damnit; I hit my thumb again!"
    Or; "Hammers hurt"

    #4021 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Yeah...i couldn’t believe i hit it again,i was like:”you got to be joking me”!!!?

    Look you gotta move the thumb before you slam that hammer down...
    Maybe we should get the other amigos... to locate every hammer you own... lock them in a hidden toolbox and only bring them out when you can be supervised.

    #4044 1 year ago
    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    Safety socks Bas?

    Nah; he's not welding or grinding.

    #4074 1 year ago

    I'd be concerned about that pot being used in series with the motor.
    Most pots... esp something this small; only handle 250mW of power... and that motor is going to take a lot of current.
    You need to investigate using PWM to drive the motor to slow it down ... I'm pretty sure that pot won't last very long in it's current use model.

    #4082 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    The crappy dremel was 18 volt,it had an 18 volt power supply,i connected it to a 5 volt connection to tune down to 1.9 volts(1.9 Volt makes the ideal mouth speed )
    So i don’t think it is going to be an issue...my new mech runs light as a feather so it needs next to nothing....if the dremel was 5 volts and i put 18 volts on the pot meter i would also be worried!
    But you have a valid point,be careful what you hook up,you can only burn down your pinball once!

    Nope. the Key is:
    DC 18V 7W

    The board total for the original dremel was no more than:
    7W / 18V or .388amps or 388 mA.

    Is your motor going to draw more than .388Amps? If so that board isn't going to work long.
    My gut tells me that any binding on the motor; and you'll draw a lot more than 400mA.

    1 month later
    #4654 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    build an upper playfield behind the playfield mansion?

    After all that time I spent on the toxic swap LED lighting...
    Where's my crying hole?

    #4657 1 year ago

    That's a extra special kinda stupid right there.

    #4700 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    on our way back home,11.5 hours of steering

    I call BS... you know you had it in AutoDrive.

    #4716 1 year ago

    Mic's becoming a super star... you may want to knock him down a couple of pegs.
    Nice work Mic!

    #4761 1 year ago

    No... He's flipping OldPinGuy off... we know; that Art guy's a chump.
    (kidding)

    4 weeks later
    #5042 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    It fits exactly,gonna simply close the open gaps that don’t have an led i guess...gonna think about that...

    Look at that sequence again.... there has to be a away of filling in extra LEDs.
    IE instead of wiring directly as instructed; see if you can extend it so one half of the LEDs light on one side; then repeat the sequence with extra LEDs on the side.

    2 weeks later
    #5255 1 year ago

    TBH; I wouldn't own a sign JPOP pin because of what he did.
    Same for Dutch... Same for Kevin. It's also why I'd never consider a Houdini
    Just no way I would ever associate my money against these villians.
    Not saying everyone should do the same; I'm just saying that is why *I* won't be expanding my collection to these people.

    #5259 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dragon:

    I'm sorry that he's hurting

    I actually hurting for the victims... as I really didn't have skin in the game.

    Back on topic Amigos... Stop derailing your own threads.
    Congrats on the new game... but more Mansion.

    #5343 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    I at that time was like still hoping for a positive outcome:”what do you care?! You only buy Startrek pinballs!! Look at your collection!!”
    And now today,i push the zitt pinball icon and i see Despicable Me Pinball Madness is on your wishlist.
    It just goes to show we pursue the same stuff man...and we all deal differently with drama?!

    Thehehhehhe.
    Yeah; Now my collection has LLEE (or did I forget to add it)? So; it's not just Star Trek any more... there's even an RFM that actually works now.

    Are you sure that new upper midget flipper mech isn't going to hit the side of the cabinet?

    2 weeks later
    #5393 12 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    is LLEE fun?
    It must be quite an experience?

    Yeah; It's just hard for me to master. I'm not a good pinball player as I spend more time modding/playing them.
    I'm really looking forward to see how Multimorphic handles the multi-platform configuration. Cosmic Cart Racing looks really fun with the head-to-head networking theme.

    2 weeks later
    #5427 11 months ago

    Ah. For some reason I thought DPO was later... good reason. Carry on.

    #5429 11 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Dudes! We are in the despicable me topic this weekend..

    Nope. Not acceptable. That game was done years ago.

    1 month later
    #5744 10 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Yeah imo it is kinda loud...thanks for your 2 cents,we’ll change that.
    Pink is indeed too childish...it needs to look more industrial like the entire PAM meter.
    I totally agree.

    Pink works...if it's UV reactive.

    1 month later
    #6350 8 months ago

    HBD!
    No injuries; hum... doesn't sound they you did the proper level of celebration.

    1 week later
    #6453 8 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Meantime,the 5 wires are in...i had 2 free spots in the rear connector so that one is all full now.
    [quoted image]

    Ok. Time to edjumicate….
    When you crimp wires; you crimp the insulation in the first set of "prongs" and the conductor in the last set.
    Lacks insulation crimp
    This is done to secure the insulation so it can't be pulled off; but more importantly; it helps prevent "fraying" as the wires are bent/repositioned.
    https://bigdanzblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/28/how-to-crimp-your-own-0-1-terminals-to-jumper-wires/
    scroll down to Oct2016 update.

    1 month later
    #7045 6 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    Stern lacks soul too,Iron Maiden LE is the first good Stern machine imo,love it!

    You're just in love with it because it started life as a HomeBrew.
    We'll see if game#2 lives up to the hype.

    2 months later
    #7698 4 months ago

    Great work...
    Gotta admit tho; given the size of those fast boards... and the LEDs on them... I'm not convinced that hot glue is going to standup to the heat of the LEDs while running during long events like a pinball show.
    Are you sure your not going to have LEDs falling out of their respective positions during long use?

    1 month later
    #8147 3 months ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    We hope to bring our pin to USA pinball meetings some day,so you can come and play our Crazy Mansion.

    Ya'll heard it. He promised. We need to hold his feet to the fire now.

    3 weeks later
    #8354 65 days ago
    Quoted from pinballrockstar:

    I should be shot for this???

    yes.

    Now; if there is a dutch pinball show you always go to... always swap batteries right before the show; each year... and you'll likely never forget again. I'd rather the AAs go bad in a TV remote; than a cpu board.

    1 month later
    #8959 14 days ago
    Quoted from aobrien5:

    Damnit Bas, turn your phone. Lol.

    At this point; he's trollin' you guys now.
    Old dog... new tricks... or something like that.
    Hey; maybe in Rotterdam; the culture is to leave the phone in portrait mode.

    #9033 10 days ago

    Perfect, a flat spot to drill for Newton ball

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