Welcome to the Cocktail Club! The group of pins that is most often overlooked and regularly stumbled upon.

This place is for everybody that owns and/or likes one or more cocktail pinball machines. Feel free to show them off! Tell your story!

I'll start with my Night Moves. I bought it a few years ago. My reasons: For starters, cocktail pins are quite a rarity in Europe and I like more obscure machines. I also like Gottlieb games of this vintage. And it's the only machine I can (and want to) fit in my small living room.

It's a nifty little machine with some innovative software. I just made a video for it. Check it out!

So... who's next?

Wow, thanks for all the great compliments, guys! Video editing is a hobby that combines nicely with pinball. It does take a lot of effort to make a video like this one though, so it's extra awesome to get such nice replies.

I've got some videos for other pins on my Youtube channel Ballen van Staal. Feel free to check them out as well. And subscribe if you like. I don't post many videos, but I do like to put an effort in the ones I make.

Thanks! All lights in the game are Noflix Plus from Pinball Center (Germany).

Those are definitely some good ideas! Like more Premier games, some refinements in the software department are very welcome. Maybe someday...

I have set 'special' to award an extra ball on mine. You can also set it to award points when lit. Makes going for that target a lot more interesting!

That's a pretty cool cocktail collection, congratulations! I've been wondering: is the basic structure of all these cabinets the same? Did the manufacturers copy the design from each other? Or are there more differences than meets the eye?

Cool! A rare machine, especially in fully functional condition. Was it a lot of work to get it going?

If you look closely at this picture of the Night Moves white wood, you can see that it says 'HIGH CANNON BALLERS' in the score display whilst the high scores are showed. The production game says 'NIGHT MOVERS'. To me, this indicates that the machine might have been rethemed relatively late in the process. Maybe due to feedback from International Concepts? Who knows...

It might be a long shot, but it wouldn't surprise me if time became a factor, so Premier used a theme and artwork that they had laying on a shelf somewhere. Which might just be Larry Day's work. Another theory is indeed that, when time became a factor, they hired Day as a freelancer on the project.
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Both cocktail pins with blue displays made by Premier and sold by International Concepts. Different in just about every other aspect.

Ouch... extremely nasty. That playfield looks beyond repair. Who does that to a pin?! Hope you knew what you were getting before you took the effort to pick this one up. Did you at least get a good solenoid board out of it?

Welcome to the club!

My advise for you is to post your question in the club for Gottlieb owners:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/home-for-the-gottlieb-sys1-sys-80b-guys-yep-i-guess-it-a-club. Somebody there should probably be able to get you going. There's much more technical knowledge about Gottlieb System 80b there than in this club.

Good luck fixing your machine! Night Moves is a very fun little game.

On a later 80B's like NM, I usually only make sure that there's 2 wires for the 5v and 2 wires for ground in the double edged connector between mpu and driver board.

A more elaborate approach is needed for system 80, 80A and early 80B. Night Moves however is a late (actually the last) system 80B.

Watch this video. It's about system 80 and 80A, but the procedure for the double edged connector is the same for 80B.

On 5:35 you see an explanation of what I mean. And yes: If the wires aren't there already, you will have to add them.

Nice! Watch that right flipper rubber though. It's a bit off.

Video?

Wow. That's the most pimped out cocktail pin I've ever seen. Very cool. Could you tell (or better: show) me how you attached the Hudson bearings? I'd like to add them to my Night Moves!

I just saw this in another post and thought you guys might like to see it. (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/4-nib-caribbean-cruise-night-moves-newton-north-carolina)

4(!) NIB cocktail pins were auctioned off in a storage unit auction. 2 Carribean Cruises, 1 Night Moves and 1 unknown. At least one of the CC'S seems to have had mice in them.

I really hope that one of you guys snagged them, because they went for a steal...

https://storageauctions.com/auction-unit/unit-details/14618

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How's the cpu for acid damage?

Oh and adjust that left flipper please. Nothing to do with the malfunction you mention, but my autistic eye can't stand misadjusted flippers

It won't even remember the 1st high score. It would need a battery for that

luckycreature You're fine. Just solder it out, carefully.

They're 24161's. Mine still has the originals in there. The number is also printed on the playfield underneath the flipper mech.
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All registered CC's on ipsnd.net are in the 2000's.

If everybody registers their machines here, we will have a better image of the total amount of machines built.

http://www.ipsnd.net/view.aspx?id=3003

Opinions please! Sunlight (left) or Cold White (right) GI on Night Moves?

The Sunlight side is the brightness I'm looking for. If I go for Cold White, I'll go for something a little brighter.

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Thanks for your opinions guys! Much appreciated.

Having fully changed to Sunlight now, I can definitely say I agree with this. Night Moves is one of those rare games that looks much better in Cold White. Actually, Sunlight makes this game look kind of bland, imho.

Why the change to Sunlight then? Well, the Cold Whites I had in there were starting to get really dim. I'll be changing back to Cold White once I've ordered some brighter ones.

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Welcome to the club @rsos1. I'll gladly take a picture of mine when I'm back from my holiday.

Here you go rsos1 ! Hope this helps.

Don't pay too much attention to the wheel that's installed instead of a leveler. Night Moves came with regular levelers installed. I installed the wheels myself later on. The bracket remains unchanged, as the wheels have the same size thread.
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You're welcome!

They look like they're made especially for this purpose. You could try emailing Pinball Resource. They bought all the Gottlieb parts when they went out of business.

Otherwise, I think fabbing something up might be your best choice. Unless someone has parted one of these out.

Good luck!

Oof, I don't think I would recommend that. There's probably a reason the designers spread the weight over the side panels instead of using the floor panel for that.

Awesome! Are they the correct size? I do hope they're thick enough to carry the weight of the machine.

Pics or it didn't happen!

I'm looking for the guy from Germany that almost bought my Night Moves a few years ago. I seem to have lost his contact details, but I know he reads this forum.

German guy (sorry I forgot your name as well) if you read this, please get in contact with me through a pm. Or through Whatsapp, if you still have my number.

As of tomorrow, I'm out of the club that I started 2 years ago, guys. It was fun while it lasted. Sometimes you have to make choices in life.

My Night Moves is going to a new owner. It has to make room for a new game. Here is a picture of the two, side by side.

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Thank you for your kind words!

Night Moves is a very handsome game, in more ways. It's like Atari_Daze mentions: f I even come across another one, i'll certainly be tempted to buy it. But for now, selling is the best choice.

Heads up for Rotation VIII owners in need of parts. A seller in The Netherlands is parting one out. I'm not affiliated to him and I have no idea what his prices are.

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/verzamelen/automaten-flipperkasten/m1493250284-rotation-8-bally-midway.html

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To take the lamp board underneath the NIGHT MOVES inserts off, you first remove the connector from it. There's a small latch on top of these connectors that you push while you pull the connector out. Then remove the connection on the four corners of the board, either by squeezing the white connection things through the board, or by unscrewing the screws that go into the playfield.

Once the board is removed, you'll discover that every insert has 3 lamps. The middle lamps act like regular controlled lights during attract mode and gameplay. The game uses these middle lamps the most.

The outer lamps give a flashing effect during certain parts of the game, i.e. during multiball. The game uses these far less.

I fitted the outer lamps with bright, colored leds in a rainbow pattern when I had the game. This made the effect they gave much more noticable and enjoyable than the regular 44's did.

Sounds like you're moving ahead nicely. If you like to see the rainbow effect in action, watch my video in the first ever post of this topic on page 1.

TNT has a few great videos on Night Moves. I highly recommend them. The ones on Carribean Cruise are also worthwile. NM and CC have a shared history. Todd shares it in the videos.

About the battery: the original is a little black box on the side of the MPU with 'Data Sentry' written on it. If it's still there, you definitely want to remove it to prevent leakage. If you want the memory to work, there are non-leaking replacement options available.

I think you can adjust the display plastic to be more flush with the playfield. You do this underneath the playfield, using the plastic bolts. Do be careful, as these are, well, plastic.

May I ask how much you paid for your machine?

My opinion: Remove it, asap. Better safe than sorry. It's really not a big endeavour. You could have come a long way instead of writing up that last post.

I don't think that battery and its acid really care about how slow you might be.

It's all about priorities. It's your machine, you can do whatever you want with it. Anybody who has dealt with acid damage on an mpu will tell you to remove the battery from that board, rather sooner than later. Still. Your machine. Your energy. Your call. But also: your problem when it goes wrong. And wrong it will go, eventually.

Realise that waiting could make things a lot harder. If you wait too long, there will be a *lot* more to do than just a battery pack to remove. Worst case? You will be not only be ordering a new MPU, but also find yourself torturing yourself by repinning all the connectors to the MPU, because the acid also went into them. Believe me, you don't want that. It will not only cost you money, patience and energy, but also 100 times more backache than smartly removing that battery.

Also realise that a clean, original Gottlieb system 80b MPU is becoming quite a rarity these days. If you have one, cherish it. And keep it clean by removing that battery.

If you're scared that things might go wrong, ask people here how to do it, step by step. You'll be pleasantly surprised by the help you will get. Maybe you can even get a skillful pinhead to do it for you. I would, if I lived close.

So. Long write. Excuse me for that. If you have any questions on how to go ahead: shoot! If you're looking for a different answer to the question if you should remove the battery: you are simply not supposed to get that in a community that cares to keep pinball alive.

This video explains quite a lot of the rules.

Nice find, Tom! I would love one of these as a dining table. Any owners willing to sell?

Posting the entire ad here for reference.

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Congrats on a very cool looking machine. Same color scheme as Centaur!

Looking fabulous!

Nice find! Congrats!

Congrats! Great little game.

Your General Illumination looks quite dim. Are those old leds? Or does it still have incandescants in it?

Holy shit man, that's not for the squeamish. If you are really fixing that up, I would love to see the result. Best of luck!