(Topic ID: 241400)

The Claytorian Basement Remodel

By RyanClaytor

4 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 282 posts
  • 70 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 4 years ago by PAPPYBALL
  • Topic is favorited by 37 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    2G3A9614 (resized).jpeg
    48902292_2017593708540150_8795798022379274240_o-4 (resized).jpg
    ClaytorArcade.gif
    ClaytorArcadeSign.jpg
    goosiesEverywhere.gif
    bye.gif
    woodrail01_2000px.jpg
    woodrail02_2000px.jpg
    claytorArcade_2000px.jpg
    Pano2000.jpg
    modernEM_2000px.jpg
    modernEM_2000pxPANO.jpg
    79BDF22A-D86D-49BE-8CE8-569CD68ED654 (resized).png
    ClaytorArcade.gif
    F894D5B7-3843-49C3-B042-78231AD91071.gif
    tenor.gif

    There are 282 posts in this topic. You are on page 3 of 6.
    #101 4 years ago

    I like 3,4,6, and 7.

    #102 4 years ago

    4 is my favorite still. 7 is my second favorite.

    #103 4 years ago

    #4 is my favorite
    #7 close 2nd

    All the designs are pretty great.

    #104 4 years ago

    Mark me down for #3 Ryan! Everytime you drop a coin you take a bite...diggin that continuity...

    Sean

    #105 4 years ago

    I like 1,3,4,and 7, in no particular order.

    #106 4 years ago

    4 or 7

    #107 4 years ago

    Like I said earlier, I really like 4.

    #108 4 years ago

    I'm still rooting for number three. The others are all fine designs, but for me, none of them have the wow factor and uniqueness of the whole enchilada, er, elephant.

    No matter which you choose, I think you should go into custom neon design as a third (fourth? fifth?) side hustle.

    #109 4 years ago

    Thanks for the continued interest and feedback. I'm pretty sure I've made a decision on the neon. Sent a mock-up and high-res lineart into my neon guy for a final price quote, so we'll see where that comes back. Ha-ha! It's possible that could sway my decision, but not likely. *fingers crossed*

    Anyhow, until I have some more word on that front, I have some news about the build-out. I finally cleaned-out all of the soon-to-be-arcade section:

    IMG_20190609_200637429 (resized).jpgIMG_20190609_200637429 (resized).jpg

    ...all except for those built-in storage shelves.

    My builder made short work of those when he arrived today:

    IMG_20190610_115044518 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_115044518 (resized).jpg

    Then got to work framing:

    IMG_20190610_131013332 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_131013332 (resized).jpg

    By the end of today, here's what the studs for the new room looked like:

    IMG_20190610_232144477 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232144477 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232154597 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232154597 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232219621 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232219621 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232232637 (resized).jpgIMG_20190610_232232637 (resized).jpg

    He'll be back again tomorrow. See ya then.

    #110 4 years ago

    I vote 4 or 8.

    #111 4 years ago

    Framing is complete.

    IMG_20190611_151112815 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151112815 (resized).jpg

    This included framing around the duct:

    IMG_20190611_151726215 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151726215 (resized).jpg

    ...and the back wall:

    IMG_20190611_151224512 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151224512 (resized).jpg

    For those interested in minutia, there was a point of discussion regarding this wall. If you look closely, you'll see a gas pipe:

    IMG_20190611_151218440 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151218440 (resized).jpg

    ...that extended away from the wall about 11":

    IMG_20190611_151453380 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151453380 (resized).jpg

    We were hoping our builder could hack it back a bit so that we could gain a few more inches for our room. Unfortunately, he wasn't licensed to do work on gas lines, so it wouldn't have been permitted, and it would have cost another $500+ or so to have a certified person to come move it. Ultimately, we decided to give up the square footage and save the half-a-grand. In silver linings, a couple of things happened.

    1. There was an angled portion of the original framing that hung below the basement ceiling studs and protruded from the wall about 5", which would have prevented us from making a flat wall that was framed much closer than that:

    IMG_20190611_151539415 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151539415 (resized).jpg

    ...so, really, we're only losing about 6" instead of 11".

    2. Additionally, our builder was able to notch out the metal studs to save us a couple more inches:

    IMG_20190611_151649624 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151649624 (resized).jpg

    ...so, really, we're only losing about 4".

    4" or $500+ for a permitted move of the gas line. I think we came out alright on this one.

    And because the builder used metal studs he was able to frame pretty darn close to the overhead duct that runs overtop of one side of the room:

    IMG_20190611_151853884 (resized).jpgIMG_20190611_151853884 (resized).jpg

    A clearance of 6'4" as you enter the room certainly isn't ideal, but unless you're Todd MacCullough or Jack Danger, you probably won't have to duck. Anyhow, I was afraid it was going to be a lot worse than that. Once drywall, carpet and padding is installed, it'll probably be a little worse than that, but hopefully not much.

    Again, this is the section that mainly runs over top of the games...

    BackWallMockBlank (resized).jpgBackWallMockBlank (resized).jpg

    ...so my naive hope is that it won't be too intrusive.

    Anyhow, electrician appointment is on Monday!

    #112 4 years ago

    I can honestly say I've never met a home collector with four Black Knight 2000s.

    Looks good! Can't wait to see it filled with games!

    #113 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    For those interested in minutia, there was a point of discussion regarding this wall. If you look closely, you'll see a gas pipe:

    Could of covered the gas pipe with a bulk head, along the top of the wall. Getting back the 6 inches of floor space. Also what is the black square that you will be covering up? An old fireplace clean out?

    #114 4 years ago

    Ryan, You might want to keep a close eye on the guy in the hockey mask. I wouldn’t have let him in my house!

    Jason the Builder (resized).pngJason the Builder (resized).png

    There might be a reason they call him a ‘rough’ carpenter!

    #115 4 years ago

    I think that may be a women and suspect she is there for the three immaculate whirlwind games-

    May be time to consider a security upgrade before you sheetrock.

    #116 4 years ago

    Ask your framer, or do it yourself, but you should screw another section of metal stud to the backside of those cutouts for the pipe. You lost most of the wall strength when he did that.

    #117 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Ask your framer, or do it yourself, but you should screw another section of metal stud to the backside of those cutouts for the pipe. You lost most of the wall strength when he did that.

    This...

    #118 4 years ago

    You also need those thick metal plates on the front of the metal stud where the pipe is so someone down the road doesn’t decide to hang something on the wall and put a nail or screw into the gas pipe in the process. Same they do to protect electrical wiring in the wall studs.

    #119 4 years ago

    Following this because your posts are hilarious and I love to see people's rooms come together. Looking good!

    Chris

    #120 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Ask your framer, or do it yourself, but you should screw another section of metal stud to the backside of those cutouts for the pipe. You lost most of the wall strength when he did that.

    I was going to say something but the last time I commented on building/code the poster of that thread went into a terminal pout and refused to post any longer. I wanna see what neon you picked out, at minimum!

    #121 4 years ago
    Quoted from EricHadley:

    You also need those thick metal plates on the front of the metal stud where the pipe is so someone down the road doesn’t decide to hang something on the wall and put a nail or screw into the gas pipe in the process. Same they do to protect electrical wiring in the wall studs.

    The pipe itself is thicker than the steel plate, those are not needed here

    #122 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Anyhow, electrician appointment is on Monday...

    Happy Monday!

    IMG_20190617_111515748 (resized).jpgIMG_20190617_111515748 (resized).jpg

    Outlets and potlights are going in as I type...

    IMG_20190617_123857956 (resized).jpgIMG_20190617_123857956 (resized).jpg

    The daddest of dance breaks for things coming together:

    boom.gifboom.gif

    #123 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Happy Monday!
    [quoted image]
    Outlets and potlights are going in as I type...
    [quoted image]
    The daddest of dance breaks for things coming together:
    [quoted image]

    Always good when a contractor arrives as scheduled! Looking good!

    Chris

    #124 4 years ago

    The electrician pulled a late night (left at 9pm), but despite working his butt off, came back this morning to finish the job.

    light.giflight.gif

    These next few pictures have me pretty excited.

    IMG_20190618_134655153 (resized).jpgIMG_20190618_134655153 (resized).jpg

    I feel like with each incremental step (studs, outlets, LIGHT) I can envision it coming together a little better.

    IMG_20190618_134721976 (resized).jpgIMG_20190618_134721976 (resized).jpg

    ...and here's ^^^ the dirty little secret of where all the wood from the shelving went.

    IMG_20190618_134747978 (resized).jpgIMG_20190618_134747978 (resized).jpg

    Electrical permit should be pulled this week and inspection should happen next week.

    Skatin' along! Until then...

    Dance break!

    danceWhat.gifdanceWhat.gif

    #125 4 years ago

    LED conversion kits are a nice upgrade for those can lights. Very little heat, and dimmable. About $10 a pop.
    You put incandescents in those and u will feel the heat.

    #126 4 years ago

    High up outlet for neon sign?

    #127 4 years ago

    Might just be the photo, but the color temp looks like they're already LEDs. For my basement cans I just threw in some Greenlite brand 8W dimmable 3000K LEDs, only a buck each. Installed a few dozen a couple years ago, zero burnouts, and they work pretty well with my existing dimmers.

    #128 4 years ago

    +1 For mounting your duplex outlets higher on the game rows so that the cords are concealed by the machines !!

    I did the same thing myself.

    #129 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    LED conversion kits are a nice upgrade for those can lights. Very little heat, and dimmable.

    I agree about the heat, but it's gonna be a seesaw battle between heat and dimmability. We tried both and the LED's do not dim very low. It's kinda like the lights are all still on, even at the lowest setting. Ha-ha! For now, they're incandescents. But, of course, and easy swap if needed.

    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    About $10 a pop.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sunco-Lighting-Equivalent-Dimmable-Outdoor/dp/B01N4DNN8H/ref=sr_1_5

    ...there are other sources.

    Quoted from yancy:

    Might just be the photo, but the color temp looks like they're already LEDs.

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    For now, they're incandescents.

    Quoted from yancy:

    For my basement cans I just threw in some Greenlite brand 8W dimmable 3000K LEDs, only a buck each.

    I was testing 2700K and I'm astonished at the COLOR of light they emit. Traditionally, my wife and I are both pretty anti-LED, not from a kill-the-world perspective, more of a snooty-artists-hate-the-awful-color perspective. But they REALLY matched well with the incandescents. Here's a picture of my kitchen. 3 of these are LED's, the rest are incandescent:

    Looking South:

    LookingSouth (resized).jpgLookingSouth (resized).jpg

    Looking North:

    LookingNorth (resized).jpgLookingNorth (resized).jpg

    Can you tell which one's are LED's?

    Quoted from Ballypin:

    +1 For mounting your duplex outlets higher on the game rows so that the cords are concealed by the machines !!
    I did the same thing myself.

    fistBump.giffistBump.gif

    #130 4 years ago

    Permit was pulled. Looks like electrical inspection will happen Thursday.

    danceE.gifdanceE.gif

    #131 4 years ago

    Ooo! Just got a note from my builder that the BUILDING inspection will follow the ELECTRICAL inspection this week:

    Untitled-1 (resized).jpgUntitled-1 (resized).jpg

    #132 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    ...electrical inspection will happen Thursday.

    It did, and the guy tagged my basement before he left:

    IMG_20190627_205611848 (resized).jpgIMG_20190627_205611848 (resized).jpg

    ...with a sticker that read something like this:

    Untitled-1 (resized).jpgUntitled-1 (resized).jpg

    Yus!!

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    BUILDING inspection...

    ...tomorrow.

    giphy (1).gifgiphy (1).gif

    #133 4 years ago

    I come for the updates... I stay for the gif's.

    #134 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    BUILDING inspection...

    TODAY:

    Untitled-1 (resized).jpgUntitled-1 (resized).jpg

    Quoted from roar:

    I stay for the gif's.

    stormtwerkers.gifstormtwerkers.gif

    Some finishing starts on Monday.

    #135 4 years ago

    Hot diggety, this is fun!

    #136 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    It did, and the guy tagged my basement before he left:
    [quoted image]
    ...with a sticker that read something like this:
    [quoted image]
    Yus!!

    ...tomorrow.
    [quoted image]

    One of my favorite movies ever

    #137 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Some finishing starts on Monday.

    IMG_20190701_125325651 (resized).jpgIMG_20190701_125325651 (resized).jpg

    Boy, did I ever want to take a panoramic shot with my fancy new phone, but geez, the panos on this new thing are awful. Yeesh. Anyhow, here's another look at THAT GLORIOUS INSULATION:

    IMG_20190701_125317522 (resized).jpgIMG_20190701_125317522 (resized).jpg

    My naive hope is that this ceiling insulation will deaden the sound enough that I'll be able to play a game while my son slumbers a couple floors above. If that comes to fruition, I'll totally take a moment for a...

    *DANCE BREAK!!!*

    danceroo.gifdanceroo.gif

    #138 4 years ago

    The best thing you can do to deaden sound going upstairs is to uncouple the physical connection between the ceiling and the floor joists. They make channels that you can attach to the joists and then attach the drywall to the channel. Anything you can do to break a "straight line" for sound or vibration to travel give huge benefits.

    #139 4 years ago
    Quoted from robotron911:

    The best thing you can do to deaden sound going upstairs is to uncouple the physical connection between the ceiling and the floor joists. They make channels that you can attach to the joists and then attach the drywall to the channel. Anything you can do to break a "straight line" for sound or vibration to travel give huge benefits.

    I'm pretty sure the builder plans on doing this.

    #140 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    I'm pretty sure the builder plans on doing this.

    It’s called a resilient channel. And it works wonders.

    #141 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    My naive hope is that this ceiling insulation will deaden the sound enough that I'll be able to play a game while my son slumbers a couple floors above

    That looks like some pretty sweet stone wool! Complete disclosure - i manufacture it so i’m a bit biased .

    The sound proofing you have done is good and will deaden the noise between floors. I find it works best if you leave a bit of an air gap between the batts and the floor boards. Prob not worth dropping it now but thought i’d mention it. You will still get the low frequency sound carrying through the joists as Robotron pointed out. Things like heavy walking, etc. Resilient Channel works great to mitigate that, and if that’s in your plans you will be happy. But as far as pin noises reaching the second floor - you should have no worries there.

    3 weeks later
    #142 4 years ago

    Hey all!

    Welcome back. I know it's been a few weeks, but I've been out of state visiting family and exhibiting/presenting at Comic-Con International. With that blatant flex out of the way, let's talk basementy stuff.

    So, I flew back to Michigan last night and had my builder all lined-up to continue work today. As he was getting started with the...

    Quoted from pintechev:

    ...resilient channel[s]...

    ...for the ceiling drywall, I went around pulling the insullation down an inch or three...

    IMG_20190723_094837289 (resized).jpgIMG_20190723_094837289 (resized).jpg

    ...in order to...

    Quoted from Completist:

    ...leave a bit of an air gap between the batts and the floor boards...

    ...in an effort to...

    Quoted from Completist:

    deaden the noise between floors.

    Completist , thank you so much for the tip. This step wouldn't have happened without you. I can't believe the manufacturer of the product I'm using happened to also be a pinsider and watching this thread. You rock!

    pintechev & robotron911 , you're both pretty dandy, too. Resilient channels happened to already be in the plans, but great suggestion nevertheless.

    Anyhow, after I repositioned all the batting, I got out of my builder's way and let him work. He brought in a fancy lifting unit:

    IMG_20190723_112601884 (resized).jpgIMG_20190723_112601884 (resized).jpg

    ...kept it going...

    IMG_20190723_120838900 (resized).jpgIMG_20190723_120838900 (resized).jpg

    ...and before the end of the day...

    IMG_20190723_171301703 (resized).jpgIMG_20190723_171301703 (resized).jpg

    ...he had the ceiling complete. I'm pretty excited. It's starting to look real! Funny how each completed step is this minor high. I can't imagine the state I'll be in when this is finished. Camp-out parties in the basement are likely.

    Builder's coming back tomorrow to drywall the walls, so you can expect some more whiteness in the photos tomorrow.

    Until then...

    ChiefBeav.gifChiefBeav.gif

    #143 4 years ago

    drywallDone.jpegdrywallDone.jpeg

    giphy.gifgiphy.gif

    #144 4 years ago

    Ryan, looking good! Got the Coin-Op Carnival Issue 1 today in the mail today - great stories and illustrations of course!

    #145 4 years ago

    Excuse me if I missed it, but was there a final verdict on the neon sign that you’re going with? BTW, basement is looking good, can’t wait to see it loaded with games

    #146 4 years ago

    Sweet!

    #147 4 years ago
    Quoted from ReadyPO:

    Ryan, looking good!

    Quoted from JayDee:

    BTW, basement is looking good

    Thanks, all!

    Quoted from JayDee:

    Excuse me if I missed it, but was there a final verdict on the neon sign that you’re going with?

    You didn't miss it, JayDee. I never revealed it. Thinking of waiting until it's built and installed to unveil. ...is that too mean?

    Quoted from JayDee:

    can’t wait to see it loaded with games

    SAME!!!

    - --- ----- --- -

    Okay, yesterday, the builder came by again for a short day. He put up some corner brackets (or whatever there called) and put up the first coat of mud on them:

    IMG_20190725_162412278 (resized).jpgIMG_20190725_162412278 (resized).jpgIMG_20190725_162430746 (resized).jpgIMG_20190725_162430746 (resized).jpg

    ...a little drippy right now, but as I assured my wife, there are a few more coats to come. Speaking of which, builder just arrived for today's session, so perhaps some additional minor finishes to show today.

    Slowly but surely, progress is happening...

    giphy (1).gifgiphy (1).gif

    P.S.

    Quoted from ReadyPO:

    Got the Coin-Op Carnival Issue 1 today in the mail today - great stories and illustrations of course!

    Thank you, ReadyPO!

    #148 4 years ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    You didn't miss it, JayDee. I never revealed it. Thinking of waiting until it's built and installed to unveil. ...is that too mean?

    Ok

    walk.gifwalk.gif
    #149 4 years ago

    I just caught up on the last 90 days. This is coming along quickly. Did you finalize a plan for the neon?

    #150 4 years ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    I just caught up on the last 90 days. This is coming along quickly. Did you finalize a plan for the neon?

    I don't think you caught up! See the last 4 posts

    There are 282 posts in this topic. You are on page 3 of 6.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-claytorian-basement-remodel/page/3 and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.