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The Claytorian Basement Remodel


By RyanClaytor

26 days ago



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    #1 26 days ago

    Hi Pinside,

    I'm starting a basement remodel and thought I'd document it here. Currently, we have room for about 10 games and our goal is to finish an unfinished portion of our basement that will accommodate about 15 games. For those of you who have followed my threads in the past, you know you're in for a slow burn. So, buckle-up, buddies, and let's spin this yarn...

    Prior to purchasing and moving into our current home, I mocked up a basement space that looked something like this:

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    At this time, 2014, we had 4 pinball machines. This made me feel pretty good, because I knew we'd have room for a few more games. When we moved in, it looked like this:

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    ...which was a pretty amazing feeling to OWN our own house and have a few games to set up in a playable space.

    But you guys all know how this story goes once you have one, so let's fast track this...

    Circa late 2016:
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    Mid 2017:
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    The Claytorian Flood of Early 2018:
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    ...and eventual resurrection:
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    Finally, this is how our space has settled down as of 2019:
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    ...but that doesn't mean there aren't a few more lurking in the wings :
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    Because of that, I've had my eye on an unfinished portion of our basement that, until now, has been used largely for storage. I did some mock-ups of that space for our contractor:

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    And started the daunting task of putting all our games on their butts for a couple (few? ) months and moving all of our accumulated sundry junk out of a particular space to be finished (the half-wall storage area):

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    So, presently, this is what our glorious gameroom looked like during our Easter party:

    Saturday, April 20, 2019:
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    Sunday, April 21, 2019, my helpful topless son assisted me in disassembling our fleet:
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    ...and eventually it looked like this:
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    ...ready to receive an avalanche of outgrown baby stuffs and mystery boxes largely unopened since we moved into this house 5 years ago:
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    So that was today's task (Tuesday, April 23, 2019), which essentially cleared out roughly half of that half-wall storage area, which had very little organization.

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    Just a large open area that we hope to turn into a more usable and organized space with the addition of shelving and padded carpet (shown in the mock-ups above).

    In an effort to compartmentalize this little venture and make it feel like perhaps some progress is being made, I tried to organize this undertaking into phases:

    Phase 1: Clear-out half-wall storage
    Phase 2: Remodel half-wall storage with wardrobe, shelving, and padded carpet
    Phase 3: Move junk into remodeled half-wall storage and migrate junk from new game room onto new half-wall storage
    Phase 4: Remodel new game room with drywall, electrical, and padded carpet
    Phase 5: Paint walls
    Phase 6: Move games into remodeled game room
    Phase 7: Paint feature wall mural and incorporate neon sign
    Phase 8: Regain sanity and enjoy new space

    I'm trying to have that storage space cleared and ready by May 1st, which is around when our contractor will be ready to start. ...still gotta pick out some carpet before then.

    Here we go!!! Thanks in advance for taggin' along on this exciting and daunting ride with us.

    Sincerely,
    Ryan Claytor

    #2 26 days ago

    Can't wait to see how this turns out!

    #3 26 days ago

    Best wishes Ryan for a project that meets you timeline and financial expectations (they rarely do!)

    #4 26 days ago

    Good luck, you can always come down to VA to get your fix in if needed.

    I'm curious where the alley will reside during the remodel?

    #5 26 days ago

    Excitement!!

    #6 25 days ago

    This looks awesome!
    You are going to have a sweet setup.
    (Nice bunny ears!)

    #7 25 days ago

    Have a Blast getting it done!

    Caught the Bally Hayride being worked on!

    #8 24 days ago
    Quoted from lint:

    Can't wait to see how this turns out!

    Us too! BTW, I think I've mentioned this before, Lint, but nice avatar.

    Quoted from Rody:

    Best wishes Ryan for a project that meets you timeline and financial expectations (they rarely do!)

    Ha-ha! So true, Rody. I'm trying to brace myself for the inevitable mismanagement of time and budget.

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    Quoted from bingopodcast:

    ...you can always come down to VA to get your fix in if needed.

    Don't tempt us, BingoPodcast! We've done it before!

    Quoted from jeffc:

    Excitement!!

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    Quoted from RCA1:

    This looks awesome!
    You are going to have a sweet setup.
    (Nice bunny ears!)

    Thanks, RCA1! See you at PatZ this weekend?

    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    Have a Blast getting it done!

    Doin' our best, OldPinGuy! Keepin' eyeses on prizes over here!

    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    Caught the Bally Hayride being worked on!

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    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    Have a Blast getting it done!

    You know, they say the journey is the destination, but I kinda feel like in this case the destination is the destination. I mean, I sure hope this isn't the destination:

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    Speaking of which, shrewd viewers may have noticed some additional garbage in that heap. It's because last night, the second half of that half-wall storage unit:

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    ...got cleared out:

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    So that today a carpet guy could come do some measurements:

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    He said this was the first time he'd seen this half-wall type of area.

    Just a brief aside, we bought our place from the original owner/builder. We've since asked him, "Why the half-wall?" We assumed there was an obstruction of some sort. Maybe a sewer pipe or an immovable subterranean boulder or perhaps a pirate chest of doubloons that could help us with this remodel. But, no. It was strictly cost-cutting. I believe his response to us was something like, "You know, in retrospect, I could kick myself for not digging that out the rest of the way, as it would have only added another $200 - $300 to the cost of the build."

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    #9 19 days ago

    Minor updates: On Friday, I received the final quotes on both areas of carpet (cheap stuff for the half-wall storage area and also luxurious carpet and padding for the new arcade area). I handed over 50% payment for both areas and scheduled the soonest available installation for the half-wall storage area, which was about two and a half weeks away (May 14th). That's a lot longer than I hoped to wait, as I previously told my contractor he could start building the shelving on top of the carpet around May 1st. However, I repeated the aforementioned basement building mantra:

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    I'm trying to brace myself for the inevitable mismanagement of time and budget.

    So, I reluctantly accepted, but not before asking to be notified about any potential cancellations or openings in their schedule. They assured me I was on a list of one kind or another and, after hanging up, I left a voicemail with my contractor to let him know about the 2+ week delay.

    Fast forward to today and I received a call from the carpet folks. Turns out they DID have an unexpected opening and now we'll be getting carpet installed on May 6th instead of the 14th.

    Woo-hoo!

    Once again, contractor was notified of this next change and, thankfully, he seems awfully calm, cool, and collected about the whole thing.

    Until May 6th,
    Ryan

    P.S. Dance break:

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    #10 19 days ago

    I know where you can get a machine for your half-wall area.

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    #11 19 days ago

    I'm in, for the basement build, for more knowledge about building game rooms, for the animated gifs, and maybe even an update on that retheme someday

    #12 18 days ago
    Quoted from SirScott:

    I know where you can get a machine for your half-wall area.
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    Man, that's a fun game. I'd pick that up off the curb in a heartbeat.

    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    I'm in, for the basement build, for more knowledge about building game rooms, for the animated gifs...

    Thanks, Jim!

    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    ...and maybe even an update on that retheme someday

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    Sooo...as you may have suspected, that's been back-burnered due to this basement remodel and other projects taking precedent, but it's still firmly in my mind (gnawing at the back of my brain).

    THANK, JIM!!!

    - --- ----- --- -

    In other news, I received an order of pin-footies today:

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    With this glorious gameroom carpet coming soon-ish, I wanted to be ready to plop some games on it without destroying it.

    Shouts and thanks to Terry @pinballlife for distributing a great product finely crafted by @bryan_kelly !

    #13 17 days ago

    Hey Ryan, far be it from me to complain, I am so far behind in my pinball projects it's ridiculous. Life gets in the way sometimes. Plus I get easily distracted by other things but that's another story.

    #14 13 days ago

    May the sixth be with you. And you know what that means. Carpet day for the half-wall storage area!

    So the carpet installers showed up this morning:

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    After the tack strips went down, they got the padding installed in pretty short order:

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    ...and wrapped it up post-lunch. After which I ran our vacu-bot a couple of times:

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    And, by golly, I think that's about the best this awkward little space is ever going to look:

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    Now it's prepped and ready for the shelving:

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    Unfortunately, the contractor (scheduled to install the shelving tomorrow) won't be able to make it here until next week.

    Living my mantra over here:

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    ...brac[ing] myself for the inevitable mismanagement of time and budget...

    Until next (week's) update, stay classy, Pinside.

    Dance Break!

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    #15 13 days ago

    wtf is this shrimp dance from?! i MUST see the source.

    #16 13 days ago
    Quoted from Syco54645:

    wtf is this shrimp dance from?! i MUST see the source.

    If it's from Oz, does that make it a prawn dance? Either way, I concur and need to see this source as well!

    Basement spot looks great. Looks like a crime may have occurred near that step ladder, though!

    #17 13 days ago
    Quoted from Syco54645:

    i MUST see the source.

    Quoted from EasternBloc:

    Either way, I concur and need to see this source as well!

    Not the source but just as much fun. Big Shrimpees little children:

    Sorry for temporarily commandeering your thread Ryan! I couldn't resist!

    Thanks for censoring that picture! I don't want that image in my brain all day.

    Your basement remodel is going to be awesome, looking forward to seeing it done!

    #18 13 days ago

    Cinderblock walls + carpet = Better keep them downspouts clear.
    Good luck with the project. Going to be worth it.

    #19 12 days ago

    Love it. If there is one thing I wish I had at home, it's a basement.

    #20 12 days ago
    Quoted from Syco54645:

    wtf is this shrimp dance from?! i MUST see the source.

    Quoted from EasternBloc:

    I concur and need to see this source as well!

    I honestly have no idea. Just found it in my typical searches for animated gifs. Sorry. Pretty glorious, though, right!?

    Quoted from Pecos:

    I don't want that image in my brain all day.

    You're welcome.

    Quoted from Pecos:

    Your basement remodel is going to be awesome...

    Thanks, Pecos! Here's hoping!

    Quoted from Pecos:

    ...looking forward to seeing it done!

    Us, too!!!

    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Cinderblock walls + carpet = Better keep them downspouts clear.

    Word-up. We've got those gutter covers installed all over the house, and outside of a check-valve failure, our basement has been quite dry for the 5 years we've lived here. *knocking on wooden crossed fingers holding horseshoes and rabbit feet*

    Quoted from Jjsmooth:

    Good luck with the project. Going to be worth it.

    Aw yeah.

    Quoted from desertT1:

    If there is one thing I wish I had at home, it's a basement.

    Come to Michigan (I say as a former Californian). We're lousy with basements and reasonably priced real estate over here.

    Since we're all just twiddling our thumbs until next week, I thought I'd mention another bit of excitement. About 5 days ago, my buddy, Nick bingopodcast Baldridge, and I were interviewed on NPR for the Michigan program called "Stateside" to talk about our new pinball-related project. Here's an excerpt from an email we just received:

    - --- --- -
    The conversation you recorded with Cynthia Canty about Coin-Op Carnival will air today on our show.

    Stateside airs from 3-4 p.m. and again from 10-11 p.m. on Michigan Radio:
    91.7 FM – Ann Arbor/Detroit
    91.1 FM – Flint
    104.1 FM – West Michigan
    MichiganRadio.org – online streaming

    You'll also be able to find the full audio of your segment around 5 p.m. today on the Stateside page of our website, MichiganRadio.org.
    - --- --- -

    Let's see how this turned out and if they honored my request NOT to play The Who's "Pinball Wizard."

    Dance break (in the back right):

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    #21 11 days ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    I honestly have no idea. Just found it in my typical searches for animated gifs. Sorry. Pretty glorious, though, right!?

    YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO ME!!!!!!!!!! I MUST FIND THE SOURCE!!!!!!!!

    #22 11 days ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Unfortunately, the contractor (scheduled to install the shelving tomorrow) won't be able to make it here until next week.

    Cool place for your son to build a fort while u wait for shelving!

    #23 11 days ago
    Quoted from Syco54645:

    YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO ME!!!!!!!!!! I MUST FIND THE SOURCE!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU FIND!!!

    Quoted from c508:

    Cool place for your son to build a fort while u wait for shelving!

    My gawd...that's brilliant. Thank you for snapping me out of my task-oriented stupor. Sincerely. Fort-time needs to happen.

    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    Nick bingopodcast Baldridge, and I were interviewed on NPR for the Michigan program called "Stateside" to talk about our new pinball-related project.

    So, that aired, and now it's archived here:

    https://www.michiganradio.org/post/stateside-state-senate-passes-auto-insurance-reform-pinball-history-comic-book-new-west-mi

    ^^^ ...just scroll about 1/2 - 2/3 down that page to find our isolated segment.

    Enjoy,
    Ryan

    P.S. Dance break:

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    #24 11 days ago
    Quoted from Syco54645:

    YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO ME!!!!!!!!!! I MUST FIND THE SOURCE!!!!!!!!

    I haven’t been able to figure out where that came from. But this is a pretty entertaining video about the mantis shrimp. Which apparently is the hardest punching animal in the entire world.

    #25 11 days ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU FIND!!!

    Logo in the corner says SBS and they have a show called Danger 5 where stupid stuff like this happens. My money is on that show for the time being.
    Actually the logo is SBS 2 which aired series 2 of Danger 5, so I think it is in there.

    #26 11 days ago
    Quoted from RyanClaytor:

    PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU FIND!!!

    I found a link on reddit.com:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3aed8a/oh_stop_it_you/

    That pointed to:

    https://giphy.com/gifs/dUbpfXvWFDBW8

    That doesn't mean that is the original source, though.

    Quoted from Syco54645:

    Actually the logo is SBS 2 which aired series 2 of Danger 5, so I think it is in there.

    This makes more sense as the original source.

    Then I found this crazy shrimp dance thing:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Monstercat/comments/b7ib5x/meme_no_title_needed_heres_some_eerie_shit/

    This thread is going to the crustaceans!

    #27 9 days ago

    Nice you have a father son project going on there. Be glad you decided to keep half wall area as is and just organize it. I would have gone all out delaying project even longer buy removing it and having cost over runs. I see these a lot in my line of work. I think the same thing they saved how much by half ass'n it.

    #28 9 days ago

    I keep my basement pretty clutter free with one simple rule, if it's been sitting in a box unused for a year or more it's time to get rid of it. Not sure why people feel the need to hold onto so much stuff they never use.

    #29 9 days ago

    Well, ryanclaytor is an illustrator and comic book artist, so I am sure a lot of it is source material and personal comic collection.

    I've got lots of guns (in safe) and tools (in chests) I have not used in a year or more, but I am in no rush to get rid of them.

    #30 9 days ago
    Quoted from Mitch:

    I keep my basement pretty clutter free with one simple rule, if it's been sitting in a box unused for a year or more it's time to get rid of it. Not sure why people feel the need to hold onto so much stuff they never use.

    I use that rule with two exceptions (created by regret later at rigorously following the rule);

    1. Tools - NEVER throw away a tool. If you used it once, you are likely to use it again.
    2. Items with a replacement cost of over $500.

    #31 9 days ago

    I may have to make the trip up to check out this remodel over the summer, I'll bribe my way in with some Terrill's

    #32 9 days ago
    Quoted from robotron911:

    I use that rule with two exceptions (created by regret later at rigorously following the rule);
    1. Tools - NEVER throw away a tool. If you used it once, you are likely to use it again.
    2. Items with a replacement cost of over $500.

    This I agree with 100%

    #33 5 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    this is a pretty entertaining video

    Oh my gawd...I about died watching this. *LOL* Showed it to my wife who had the same reaction. Currently, my son is all about the Wild Kratts(two animal-excited bros educating kiddos about creatures and their "powers") so this hit us just right. Thank you, for this, Jim.

    Quoted from Syco54645:

    the logo is SBS 2 which aired series 2 of Danger 5, so I think it is in there.

    Sounds plausible! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quoted from Pecos:

    Then I found this crazy shrimp dance thing

    God bless the internet.

    Quoted from cp1610:

    Be glad you decided to keep half wall area as is and just organize it. I would have gone all out delaying project even longer buy removing it and having cost over runs.

    I need mah pinballz back on their feets!

    Quoted from Mitch:

    I keep my basement pretty clutter free

    That sounds nice.

    Quoted from Mitch:

    one simple rule, if it's been sitting in a box unused for a year or more it's time to get rid of it.

    My sincere hope is that before all of our junk goes back, we'll cut a bunch of it from our permanent storage line-up. Wish us well and send us your clutter-free thoughts, Mitch!

    Quoted from c508:

    ryanclaytor is an illustrator and comic book artist, so I am sure a lot of it is source material and personal comic collection.

    Thank you, c508, and you're a bunch of right...

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    Quoted from robotron911:

    I use that rule with two exceptions (created by regret later at rigorously following the rule);

    1. Tools - NEVER throw away a tool. If you used it once, you are likely to use it again.
    2. Items with a replacement cost of over $500.

    3. If it is a comic book.

    Quoted from Tsskinne:

    I may have to make the trip up to check out this remodel over the summer, I'll bribe my way in with some Terrill's

    You know you're welcome here anytime, Tommy. ...but I've gotta say, I'm not sure the place is trip-worthy, yet. Ha-ha!

    Speaking of which...

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    ...here's the Tuesday update! The storage shelving is going in today as I type. This area should take another day or two to finish, then it's time to sift through all that miscellaneous debris I've been judged so harshly for and decide what stays and what will go.

    Thanks for keepin' me company here in my up-turned basement, guys!

    Dance Break:

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    #34 5 days ago

    Can't wait to see the progress Ryan!

    #35 5 days ago

    Groo is an amazing book, as any fool can plainly see.

    #36 5 days ago
    Quoted from jeffsgames:

    Can't wait to see the progress Ryan!

    Thanks, Jeff! The feeling is mutual.

    Quoted from TheGiggler:

    Groo is an amazing book, as any fool can plainly see.

    To not read Groo is to err like a mendicant.

    #37 5 days ago

    Dang, those yellowed old comic book long boxes give me the warm fuzzies.

    #38 2 days ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Dang, those yellowed old comic book long boxes give me the warm fuzzies.

    Amen, brother! ...glad I'm not the only one.

    - --- ----- --- -

    Okay, today was a pretty exciting day! CHECK IT OUT!!!

    The half-wall basement storage area is COMPLETE!!! WOOO!!!

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    For those that aren't keen on video, here are some stills.

    From ground level:

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    Topside:

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    ...with a built-in wardrobe for my wife's clothes on the left (in Michigan we need a summer and winter wardrobe...and a place to store them in the off-season):

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    Rounding that corner behind the wardrobe:

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    This back portion has three sets of shelves that are sized to fit my

    Quoted from yancy:

    ...yellowed old comic book [short] boxes...

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    Hard to photograph some of these spaces but here's an orange-peeled panorama:

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    ...and finally, leading back out:

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    I told my wife tonight, if I'm this happy about the storage space getting finished, I don't know what I'm gonna do when the arcade is done.

    Mighty-night, all!

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...a weary, incoherent dance break:

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    #39 1 day ago

    As of the last update, we've completed:

    Phase 1: Clear-out half-wall storage
    Phase 2: Remodel half-wall storage with wardrobe, shelving, and padded carpet

    Now we're on to...

    Phase 3: Move junk into remodeled half-wall storage and migrate junk from new game room onto new half-wall storage

    ...which is actually proving to be more gratifying than I suspected.

    But not before finding a...

    Quoted from c508:

    ...Cool place for [my] son to build a fort...

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    Thanks, C508.

    Anyhow, do you recall that little, nondescript, hobbit door under our stairway in the old arcade:

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    (Insert Penny Pitch flex )

    Well, through that door held roughly half of my comic boxes:

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    ...which were quasi inaccessible beneath that stairway:

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    Consequently, I rarely accessed my comics and, as you can see, organization and, shamefully, filing kinda fell by the wayside (for YEARS) as it was such a pain in the buns to grab anything in there. So, new acquisitions often just got piled atop those poorly stored boxes.

    Alright, now that the shelves are built, I started schlepping all the boxes from said closet, as well as the new storage room:

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    ...into the newly renovated half-wall storage area:

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    And eventually got most of those boxes into their respective spots:

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    Which felt pretty amazing. There's still a healthy amount of sorting to do...

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    ...but it's getting done. I'm also making lists for additional supplies (boxes, bags, boards, etc) that I need to finish this long-neglected task. Should be complete in the next day or two, but, man, this already feels like a bright light at the end of a tunnel.

    Dance break:

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