Wow, it's been almost a few days since a "bubble bursting" thread.

And a few days since a MM price thread.

WTB: MM $20

I like how ONE game has caused some people to lose their shit lol.

If you enjoyed your MM before the remake announcement, it's strange that all of the sudden you don't enjoy it anymore and want it out of your house.

If someone locally was selling a MM for $7k or so...ya know - I'd probably buy it just so I had one to play until my MMr showed up lol

Because despite what most people say here, its ALL about the $$$ and what they think there pins are worth.....too many people just line em up in a row and just look at them

I love to stack mine up and ignore them.

Goodbye lookers, hello players!

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I'll keep the MM I bought for half the price of the copy. Personal preference but I'll always seek out original games.

You should know better then to type when your drinking and playing pinball.

PM Sent.

fatsquatches has finally...cracked....

too many talkings of Madness and prices and bubbles and burstings...

must lay down now....

mommy?

The A lister pins are a tumblin' huh? That's why I am storing my gold in the form of System 11 pins. Forecast says those will continue a slow creep upwards

Actually, it is about money, but not just in what people think their pins are worth.

Just to keep it simple-

1. How far can the market support the price increases? (JJP has set the new price at 9k, and 10k by Christmas is no longer a joke.)

With these new price increases, people look at their pins not as an investment, but as an opportunity to later trade them in to get a new one. Resale values are depreciating at such a huge rate, it is getting more and more difficult to sell and purchase a new pin with the proceeds from your sale.

Huge NIB increases - Huge resale decreases = Different market

It was the moops.

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You got that right..........however, if it is proven that there is a huge market for NIB pins in the 9k range then I'm damn sure a lot dumber than I look! After 3 yrs of watching this pinball evolution/revolution the time has come, 2014/2015, when we find out where its all really headed......

An absolute ton of inventory crashing the market and these guys think the party never ends and the road goes on forever

Sure why not

Rather have an original, which I have. It's routed of course but not a beater.
Originals will always be a preference.

For you. But for some of us who are not collectors and just want to have fun that is not the case.

Assuming the new game plays just as well as the original, I would much prefer to own the new game.

$8K MSRP???

No, the bubble has not burst. Not even close!

LEDs? New pf, hell, new everything! Every last nut and bolt. New technology? Pfft.

Your right. Older models with 10 lbs of circuit boards and old and restored parts are better. What were we thinking.

We have been seeing the market adjust for the past several months now - look at all the pins here that would have been snatched up still for sale. The new machines and price increases are going to stabalize prices, which is a great thing if you're a player, although a bad thing if you're a speculator.

Since there is a bubble, and 'it burst' does that mean that pins are now gonna start being foreclosed on?

(NO, because pins are paid for with CASH)

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I think the golden goose is about to be slayed when it comes to poorly produced video backglass animations. I think the novelty of WOZ is starting to die down and I don't expect anyone who sat on their thumb while waiting 2 years for a NIB is going to say it's not worth 9 grand. But I havent played it. Maybe a long tongue comes out the coin return when you meet a certain goal. Now with stern bringing a new controller to the table and the LED revolution, I can see where there will be another nocturnal emission, but surely a bunch of photoshopped images being lit differently isn't going to revolutionize the game.

The growth in pinball is in first time buyers. I just sold a waterworld and a mini simulator to a guy who was on the verge of buying a new star trek. When he saw he could get those two machines for around 3 grand, he has very happy he didn't order the ST. Newbs don't care nearly as much about the theme and rules as the care about how the game feels when they play it and NOT having to work on it. I'm a newb and I can tell you that the days of lining up a 6 different Stern SAM games in your basement are O V E R! That was a result an industry in transition.

You know the old saying about the happiest 2 days in owning a boat still applies to most pin owners that can't keep their machines up and running. Of course I'm talking about the days you buy it and sell it.

OTOH, people who keep their pin(s) at the ready seem to enjoy them with some regularity and frequency.

Dear God! this kind of talk mimics a freaked out Jersey girl! There is no need to panic, life will be alright. Live Aloha.

Yes, the bubble has burst badly beyond all repair. I have 10K and will come buy your collection as soon as you PM me an address. I am your only chance if you wish to recover part of your "INVESTMENT". Just think of the price threads and bubble threads that could be started with 10K!

<dickmode> Hey guys, did you know that a company was re-making Medieval Madness? </dickmode>

The bubble is not even close to bursting. In fact, I would argue the MMR is going to pump more money into the industry than ever before. The bubble will burst, but we are 2-3 years away..........it will be right after the 3rd remake hits the market. I love bubble threads