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A Boob Job: My "This Ain't No HEP" AFM Restoration-COMPLETE


By beelzeboob

3 years ago



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#101 3 years ago

A quick PS to this post:

This is an easier last-second thing to fix than my last-second "oops" with Funhouse. With that one, I was trying to get an angle to take one last shot of paint on the inside of the cabinet. I took a step back and knocked the backbox over, which split open against the floor. That one took a resand, re-Bondo, and repaint to fix.

This one should go a lot smoother (famous last words), but it's just another example of how, when I say God hates me, there's a reason I say it.

#102 3 years ago

You're going to Hawaii? what a spoiled brat!

#103 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Day Four: F**k...My...Life... (8 hours)
Okay, so I hate restoring cabinets. I mean really, really, REALLY hate restoring them. It's easily the hardest and most time-intensive part of the whole restoration process (and annoying because you have to wear protective crap when you're spraying).
So I spent pretty much the entire 8 hours painting two coats of paint to where I was happy with it. Yes...I'm a little overzealous with the paint and I had more than a few drips that needed to be sanded out and recoated. But for the most part everything came out looking beautiful...even to a picky bastard like me. (The white specks in the closeup pictures aren't visible to the naked eye...don't know if that's from the flash hitting a dust particle or what.)
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So I polished off a quart of paint, and even had to dump a little extra out. I was cleaning off the gun with lacquer thinner and got tired of wearing the stupid respirator. Figured, hey!...it's a calm day. Why not open the garage door and take the mask off?
Wrong.
Sometime during the cleaning of the gun, a gust of wind blew the plastic of my white trash spray tent against the back of the cabinet and stuck to it (even though the paint wasn't totally wet...there was overspray on the plastic, and that stuff is like glue when it's drying). So of course, when I pulled it off, it did damage to the paint on the back...and now I'll have to spend another two hours redoing it with some minor sanding and a repaint. But then THAT'S IT. I'm really happy with the rest of it. (You might notice a small drip on the side of the backbox...not a concern since that will be sanded down and decaled anyway.) All the visible painted surfaces will be good to go at that point.
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Which brings me to a break in this thread. No time to work on the machine before next weekend, at which time I'll be off to frolic with Kahanaohana (Scotty) and check out his pins on Kauai. Next update in three weeks when I do the warning and patent silkscreens and decals. You'll be able to see the fixed paint job in all its glory at that point.

I must say, after your foreshadowing a few days ago I sure thought it was going to be something like as you finished spraying and went to start cleaning up you knocked the can of acetone into the space heater next to the cabinet and the whole cab and head went up in flames.....instead you show us a little pimple on the ass of an otherwise great looking paint job...keep up the good work

#104 3 years ago

Dupe post so I'll throw in a pic....

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#105 3 years ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

You're going to Hawaii? what a spoiled brat!

Only my 17th time. And free flight and hotel. Sometimes it's good to put your pinball machines on credit cards.

Quoted from cosmokramer:

I must say, after your foreshadowing a few days ago I sure thought it was going to be something like as you finished spraying and went to start cleaning up you knocked the can of acetone into the space heater next to the cabinet and the whole cab and head went up in flames.....instead you show us a little pimple on the ass of an otherwise great looking paint job...keep up the good work

Thanks very much, cosmo. Problem with being a perfectionist is that even the smallest pimple looks like a mountain. And it's all you stare at...and it drives you nuts. It's gotta be fixed.

#106 3 years ago

I have a mr & mrs pacman pin you could restore next

#107 3 years ago

Looking good- I can sympathize with the redo until you get the damn thing done right!

At least you have had more than a few excuses to bust out the festool. Thats one tool thats Getting cheaper by the minute- would have been a waste of money to just sand the cabinet once.

#108 3 years ago

Wow man, that cabinet looks fantastic. I'd definitely be super pleased if that's what mine ended up looking like if I went for it. Thanks for doing this, I really like checking out these restoration / progress pic threads.

#109 3 years ago

OMG - that looks freaking horrible! Were you spraying in the snow today? You need to get your son back from Skypilot to teach you how to spray a cabinet. His Dr. Who came out looking much better.

Just kidding Boob - It looks great (not as nice as your son's) but still looks great! LOL

#110 3 years ago
Quoted from rufessor:

Looking good- I can sympathize with the redo until you get the damn thing done right!
At least you have had more than a few excuses to bust out the festool. Thats one tool thats Getting cheaper by the minute- would have been a waste of money to just sand the cabinet once.

I don't use the Festool once the paint has been applied. Hand sanding with 220 (for drips), 320, and Scotch Brite pads.

Quoted from Pinterest:

OMG - that looks freaking horrible! Were you spraying in the snow today? You need to get your son back from Skypilot to teach you how to spray a cabinet. His Dr. Who came out looking much better.
Just kidding Boob - It looks great (not as nice as your son's) but still looks great! LOL

My son cheated. He had two dads help him. My dad is dead.

#111 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

OMG - that looks freaking horrible! Were you spraying in the snow today? You need to get your son back from Skypilot to teach you how to spray a cabinet. His Dr. Who came out looking much better.
Just kidding Boob - It looks great (not as nice as your son's) but still looks great! LOL

Pinterest, You just made the Christmas card list.

#112 3 years ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

Pinterest, You just made the Christmas card list.

...and he's off of mine. F**ker wanted me to do some riveting for him. I'm sure there's somebody up his way who can take care of that.

Just wait till I get my hands on him at Pintastic...

#113 3 years ago

BTW and back on topic: repainted the cabinet and back box. I'm happy now, and will let the paint cure for two weeks before installing the decals and doing the silkscreens. (I also have to work on my wicked albino tan.)

#114 3 years ago

+1 for the thread title as well. I forgot to add that earlier.

#115 3 years ago
Quoted from sevenrites:

+1 for the thread title as well. I forgot to add that earlier.

I give it a -3 just because of the OP.

#116 3 years ago

Hey Boob, a bit of advise. When you apply the artwork ,focus ,and repeat in your head, "sticky side down".

#117 3 years ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

I give it a -3 just because of the OP.

Quoted from Skypilot:

Hey Boob, a bit of advise. When you apply the artwork ,focus ,and repeat in your head, "sticky side down".

Lol, such a rough crowd in here. I'm not sure if this is comedy gold or a restoration thread, or both. Either way, it's enjoyable. But we're delaying the next round of pics and I'm getting impatient!

#118 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

...and he's off of mine. F**ker wanted me to do some riveting for him.

Oh my gosh did I say "looks like s#|t". I meant "Looks like THE s#|t".

#119 3 years ago

I know it looks like shit. I'm redoing it again.

#120 3 years ago

Enough of this......let's get this thread shut down while Don Ho is on vacation!

#121 3 years ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

Enough of this......let's get this thread shut down while Don Ho is on vacation!

Who you callin' a ho?

#122 3 years ago

Okay - so I thought "Wow - if Boob can paint his cabinet I know that I can..." So I primed mine (in the cold) today - badly (thanks Boob). Now I just have to finish glazing the places with wide grain, sand out all of my mistakes, and touch the primer up

You should come over - give me spray lessons - rivet my ramps and play pinball.

Where are your updates?? Are you being lazy and not working on your pin - or just not posting the pictures?

#123 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

Okay - so I thought "Wow - if Boob can paint his cabinet I know that I can..." So I primed mine (in the cold) today - badly (thanks Boob). Now I just have to finish glazing the places with wide grain, sand out all of my mistakes, and touch the primer up

I can't help bad painting techniques. And I know what I'm talking about. I repainted my back box for about the 47th time today and I'm FINALLY happy with it. So it has nothing to do with cold. The painting portion of a restoration has a bitch of a learning curve. Someday I plan to get it right on the 27th or 28th try.

Quoted from Pinterest:

Where are your updates?? Are you being lazy and not working on your pin - or just not posting the pictures?

You don't read my posts too closely, do you?

Quoted from beelzeboob:

Which brings me to a break in this thread. No time to work on the machine before next weekend, at which time I'll be off to frolic with Kahanaohana (Scotty) and check out his pins on Kauai. Next update in three weeks when I do the warning and patent silkscreens and decals. You'll be able to see the fixed paint job in all its glory at that point.

I was supposed to go to Hawaii, but cancelled last minute. So I'm actually working on the game this week, but haven't posted anything yet because a) I've been spending time on repainting; b) I've been shopping with my wife for a patio and stuff; and c) I haven't done 8 hours of work yet that doesn't involve repainting. There should be 2 full 8-hour updates sometime this week. I screened the back of the cabinet today and spent time removing painting tape, etc. (and yes...that actually takes time, believe it or not!).

Hope your project turns out awesome!

#124 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

You don't read my posts too closely, do you?

Were there any pictures? If no pictures - not really.

Quoted from beelzeboob:

I was supposed to go to Hawaii, but cancelled last minute.

Yeah Skypilot told me your wife let him know your trip was canceled on short notice and she was going to punish you by making you buy new patio furniture.

Post some updates soon!

#125 3 years ago

I wanna see the patio furniture....

#126 3 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

I wanna see the patio furniture....

I second that ... We need pictures

#127 3 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

I wanna see the patio furniture....

I want to test the patio furniture.
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I"m hoping for this.
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Plannig for this.

#128 3 years ago

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#129 3 years ago

I love when my own thread goes WAY off topic. Anyway, my wife is really into reclaimed materials. Here's what she's whipped up for the new patio:

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#130 3 years ago

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#131 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

my wife is really into reclaimed materials.

that explains why she is your wife...

#132 3 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

that explains why she is your wife...

Oh shit !

#133 3 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

that explains why she is your wife...

No, It truly doesn't. Scholars will be contiplating this for centuries. OK, not really but there is no valid reason.

#134 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

I love when my own thread goes WAY off topic. Anyway, my wife is really into reclaimed materials. Here's what she's whipped up for the new patio:

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Nothing like sitting in the bath on a mattress with a large yellow sponge...

Did I just describe on of my kids weird tv shows?

You have a wife of talent sir

#135 3 years ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

You have a wife of talent sir

I do...but that picture was a joke. We're white trash...but not THAT white trash.

#136 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

I do...but that picture was a joke. We're white trash...but not THAT white trash.

Saw a sign on the porch of a trailer house next to a boat doc by the lake that said" It ain't easy being cheesy but its classy being trashy". It made me feel better about myself.

#137 3 years ago

Day Five: Hump Day!!! (8 hours)

The second best feeling when doing a restoration is when you hit the actual playfield swap point. That happened in this 8-hour segment, and it's an awesome feeling. You can wash your hands and know that you'll be dealing with (mostly) clean parts from now on as you start the rebuild.

One thing before I continue, though: No matter how long this restoration takes, you can add another 10-20 hours for all the extra shit that doesn't really count in a restoration. Like researching replacement parts, shopping for them, putting up and taking down white trash spray tents. Three times. Because I'm nucking futs and painted parts of the cabinet and head 8 different times until I was satisfied with it.

Anyway, I didn't count the extra 8 hours I spent painting in this restoration because I have issues and most people don't. But it's behind me now, and the worst part of the restoration is as well. I'm right on schedule, and now the fun begins.

You'd be amazed at how long stupid shit takes, like properly removing frog tape and masking, then having to carefully resand the small areas where the paint leaked underneath. Frog tape, my ass. The stuff is just as useless as the blue 3M tape - and I put two layers on and smooshed the stuff down. Anyway, here's the cabinet after the unmasking, touch-ups, and regluing and nailing of the speaker and power box platforms, both of which were sanded down individually:

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And before you give me any shit...yes, I know there's minor orange peeling on the inside of the cabinet. That doesn't bother me. Why? Because it's the inside of the cabinet. My goal is to get this machine better than factory, which it is...and as the title says, this ain't no HEP.

I screened the back of the cabinet and added the feet so I could tip it up and not worry about damage when applying the front decals this week. The backbox warning screen will go on in the next couple of days as well (the paint had to cure a little longer - I like to let it sit for 10 days to 2 weeks before decaling) EDIT--there's some dust on the cabinet...that'll happen when you leave it in a garage!:

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Then I turned my attention to the playfield, which I completed stripping in record time, or at least faster than that sloth Skypilot could do it. That slug takes two weeks just to get the caps off the pops. Last off is first one, so right into the basket for the ultrasonic cleaner the wire supports went:

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It's amazing how little there really is that goes into an AFM when you see it gutted and lying on a table. Please note the awesome labelling I did on each mech so that I'd know what the f**k it is in the likely event of a senior moment:

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Then to the good stuff. And again, you'd be amazed at how long this stuff takes. I installed the Mantis protectors and tee nuts, and the holes for the tee nuts were too small (thanks, Mirco!), so I had to Dremel them all out in order to tap them in. Why did that take so long? BECAUSE THERE'S BETWEEN 40 AND 50 TEE NUTS ON AFM!!! Shoot me now...

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Finally, I installed Reese Rails on the topside (thanks, Taylor!) and called it a day:

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But even when you're done working for the day, you should always have some machines doing some work for you during the down time:

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Next up: Warning screens, decaling, pop bumper rebuilds, flipper rebuilds, and all coils/mechs getting cleaned, polished and rebuilt. That oughta keep me busy for another 8 hours!

#138 3 years ago

In related news, I now have a well-used AFM playfield for sale if anybody is interested (and a WPC coin door...and a bunch of other stuff I'm not using). PM me if interested.

#139 3 years ago

It all looks good, Boob. I have to laugh at your labels on the coil mechs, though.

Gates. Like you'd confuse those for anything else!!

Diverter. See my comment about the gates.

Left sling, right sling. All the fucking parts are the same!! The only difference is the coil points a different direction on each and if you take proper pics of all the coil mechs before you take them apart, you'd see that.

Left flipper, right flipper. Um, you can't fuck those up if you tried.

Martians. See my comment about the gates.

Honestly, you don't give a shit what all those things do. If you took proper pics of the underside of the playfield showing them all, just put them back where they were.

Now that I think about it, you better get that ball trough marked. You might put that where a gate goes.

#140 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

It all looks good, Boob. I have to laugh at your labels on the coil mechs, though.
Gates. Like you'd confuse those for anything else!!
Diverter. See my comment about the gates.
Left sling, right sling. All the fucking parts are the same!! The only difference is the coil points a different direction on each and if you take proper pics of all the coil mechs before you take them apart, you'd see that.
Left flipper, right flipper. Um, you can't fuck those up if you tried.
Martians. See my comment about the gates.
Honestly, you don't give a shit what all those things do. If you took proper pics of the underside of the playfield showing them all, just put them back where they were.
Now that I think about it, you better get that ball trough marked. You might put that where a gate goes.

It's just because I don't trust myself. The more info, the better. I took over 200 pictures though. No matter how much I label, I always f**k something up anyway.

Special picture coming just for you when I get home, Bryan!

#141 3 years ago

I realize this is Boob.... but there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with over-labeling stuff.
I guaranty he won't have labeled something he needed to.

I so want a AFM Playfield.... so I can build a AFM one day;
But the reality is I have so many projects now; I doubt I'll ever finish.

#142 3 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I realize this is Boob.... but there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with over-labeling stuff.
I guaranty he won't have labeled something he needed to.
I so want a AFM Playfield.... so I can build a AFM one day;
But the reality is I have so many projects now; I doubt I'll ever finish.

Boob knows I'm just giving him shit. There is no such thing as too much information or too many pictures. Once he's done a few more games, he'll see what I mean.

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#143 3 years ago

Hey Bryan...not sure if you saw this in the previous pic. Is this too much?

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#144 3 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I realize this is Boob.... but there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with over-labeling stuff.
I guaranty he won't have labeled something he needed to.
I so want a AFM Playfield.... so I can build a AFM one day;
But the reality is I have so many projects now; I doubt I'll ever finish.

Thanks, Zitt...now I wish I had bought you a beer at TPF! It's all good...a Boob Job thread is two-fold: for noobs to learn something about the pitfalls of a restoration, and for everybody to rip the shit out of me. I've even got McCune LMFAO'ing at me via text. Big bullies, these top restoration guys.

But since I'm back in front of a computer, let me explain to Bryan WHY I over-label (in his opinion). First of all, I don't have the experience that he does, and I don't instantly know what a part is or where it goes. I have another table with screws and bolts, all of which are unlabeled, and none of the switches or lights on the harnesses are labeled. Sure, I know where each mech goes when it's all assembled. But when I take all the coils, sleeves, plungers, and brackets apart to clean and tumble, I put them all back in a big group by the tape label so I know they all belong to the same kind of mech.

When I did Funhouse, I didn't label quite as clearly, and had a mixup on brackets and coils at one point. So, unless you have the game completely memorized in terms of what coil goes with what sleeve, bracket, and plunger, it's pretty essential to keep them organized and grouped.

And now...back to breaking my balls!

#145 3 years ago

I love a thread like this documenting how regular humans deal with the issues, discoveries and generally getting through the project.

Thanks for documenting and sharing with us

#146 3 years ago

FYI, Bryan...I'm using an ultrasonic to clean my harnesses. I know you like to lovingly caress your harnesses with Purple Power and a paint brush. Just giving you a heads-up to avoid any offense. I've labelled the ultrasonic so that I remember what it is and don't lose it.

#147 3 years ago

I SO wanted to give you shit - but I just can't - It looks awesome!

#148 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

I SO wanted to give you shit - but I just can't - It looks awesome!

I agree...looking good

#149 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

FYI, Bryan...I'm using an ultrasonic to clean my harnesses. I know you like to lovingly caress your harnesses with Purple Power and a paint brush. Just giving you a heads-up to avoid any offense. I've labelled the ultrasonic so that I remember what it is and don't lose it.

I picked up an ultra sonic after I finished the IJ a couple years ago. I still use the paint brush on parts once they come out. Try it and you'll see what I mean.

#150 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

I picked up an ultra sonic after I finished the IJ a couple years ago. I still use the paint brush on parts once they come out. Try it and you'll see what I mean.

Damn. Even my attempts to break your balls are thwarted by your age and experience. But mostly your age.

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