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A Boob Job: My "This Ain't No HEP" AFM Restoration-COMPLETE


By beelzeboob

3 years ago



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#51 3 years ago
Quoted from Saveleaningtower:

yes!!! local (very!!!) pin restores by a great guy!!! let me know when you are ready for one of mine

Boob should add his company name to his pinside account...

Everybody wants a LEP restored game

#52 3 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Boob should add his company name to his pinside account...
Everybody wants a LEP restored game

Wow. And after all the nice things I said about you in your cabinet restoration thread.

#53 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Wow. And after all the nice things I said about you in your cabinet restoration thread.

You're right, i forgot to add the winkie guy on the end of my post.....

....

#54 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

Okay - I'll bite. I spend the weekend sanding a cabinet also. Was wearing a dust mask most of the time - but still got enough of the dust in my lungs to dry out my throat and start coughing, etc. Please tell me more about the Festool setup you got. I didn't mind stripping the cabinet with the heat gun - but do mind sanding all the body filler and saw dust. Please do tell more about your Festool.

One of the best set-ups money can buy when it comes to tools. The time, aggravation and mess Festool tools save is simply amazing. I didn't go full-bore like Boobs set-up but have have the 5" RO 125, DX 93 detail sander and CT 36 HEPA collector and couldn't be happier.

#55 3 years ago
Quoted from mac622:

I didn't go full-bore like Boobs

You calling me a full bore?

#56 3 years ago

Nope - just a half-bore with a hertage based scat fetish (based on some of your recent posts in other threads)

1 week later
#57 3 years ago

Day Two, Part Two (2 Hours)
Day Three, Part One: White Trash Spray Tent (4 hours)

Holy shit. 6 hours of Bondo and sanding. 5 times. And I still found one half inch spot that would be nearly invisible to anybody else, but it's an eyesore to me. So I'll have to fill it tomorrow before priming. Cabinet prep is the most important part of cabinet restoration and saves a lot of aggravation down the road during the painting process, so while it's a major pain in the ass, it's time well spent and worth being VERY patient.

I built all the damaged corners out, and each Bondo treatment got smaller and smaller: 10 spots, 5 spots, 2 spots, etc. Sanded everything with 120-150 grit paper, then with 220 until it was smooth as a baby's ass. All corners were hand sanded to a nice bevel to avoid sharp edges and help with decal trimming (gotta think ahead!). Created new chocks and installed them, then masked the bottom and inside of the cabinet in preparation for painting. Finally, the cab was ready to rock some primer...

EDIT: The corner bevels in these shots are in EXTREME closeup. They're hardly noticible - only about 1/16th of an inch. I just had McCune go medieval on my ass.

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Only one thing left to do: Build a white trash spray tent. Total cost to do it: Under $30. Four 9x12 plastic sheets and a $22 window fan. I already had drop cloths for the floor. I do NOT count the time to do this (1 hour) towards the time spent restoring. This is all optional stuff...like the 2 hours I spent trying to find the right staples for my pneumatic staple gun because my daughter used them all and didn't replace them.

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So who's up for some Easter priming? I am! And btw...it cost me over $200 for automotive-grade primer and paint to do this job. WTF???

Pray for me tomorrow...

#58 3 years ago

How did you create your own new chocks? Just cutting wood to size and nailing on? You're already a pro.

#59 3 years ago
Quoted from Elicash:

How did you create your own new chocks? Just cutting wood to size and nailing on? You're already a pro.

Yes. And no. And thanks!

#60 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

And btw...it cost me over $200 for automotive-grade primer and paint to do this job. WTF???
Pray for me tomorrow...

I found out when I bought the supplies for my pinbot cab...but those automotive paints are easy to spray, even for a guy like me with no skills...

#61 3 years ago

Great job so far ,I just finish my AFM it's been a long time but she's all new again and playing it

#62 3 years ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

I found out when I bought the supplies for my pinbot cab...but those automotive paints are easy to spray, even for a guy like me with no skills...

And I had to buy a whole new gun to shoot the primer because my gun didn't have a 1.8mm tip, only 1.4mm--and that's only good for the final coat, not the thicker primer. And since they didn't sell the replacement tip, I just got the gun. Now I have three guns. That nearly makes me a card-carrying member of the NRA.

#63 3 years ago

What is the difference in "automotive" primer versus just your average wood primer? And what about rattle can primer? One day i will do my cabinet, but want to make sure i know exactly what i am getting in to.

#64 3 years ago
Quoted from Elicash:

What is the difference in "automotive" primer versus just your average wood primer? And what about rattle can primer? One day i will do my cabinet, but want to make sure i know exactly what i am getting in to.

Bryan Kelly uses rattle cans, and he's the king of it. But it really takes a lot of practice to master, and if you aren't a pro at it, you could wind up doing more damage than good. The automotive primer is a thicker lacquer that fills in small imperfections and smooths things out a bit. But you need a decent sized compressor (look at the beast I have in that picture above), and a spray gun or two.

Also, using the automotive stuff or any oil-based paint means that you'll be cleaning your gun with lacquer thinner every time you use it. It's a really annoying and time consuming thing to do...especially when you have to do it three times like I'll have to do. But the results are really nice. Keep in mind that HEP, McCune, and other top restorers use this method to paint their cabinets; there's a reason their work looks so nice. (Bryan Kelly's work is amazing as well...but I suck with a spray can.)

#65 3 years ago

Very nice. Dig the home-made paint booth.

#66 3 years ago

Glad your progressing, I was starting to wonder if you went drinking with Skypilot!

#67 3 years ago
Quoted from nitrojcrawf:

Glad your progressing, I was starting to wonder if you went drinking with Skypilot!

No...that's Allentown. And when you drink with Skypilot, they usually find you in a gutter somewhere. I was at TPF, drinking (in moderation) with Dannunz and Tim Mezel...and a bunch of other Pinsiders.

#68 3 years ago

Day Three, Part Two: Ready for Prime Time (4 hours)

Quick update: I primed the cabinet, got overzealous and had a few drips. So I sanded the drips down, did a light sanding on the rest, and sprayed a second coat. This time it was perfect (you should do 2 coats of primer anyway, so it didn't bother me to screw up the first coat). I was lucky to not find anything that bothered me after the first coat of primer...that's the payoff for taking your time on the cabinet prep. BUT...I found one teeny "dent" in the backbox, and had to do a tiny Bondo and primer touch-up in preparation for the final coats of black paint.

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Got up this morning ready to spray the black paint, but it was raining, so I didn't want to do it in high humidity. Instead, I spent an hour working on the playfield tear down again, and it's almost stripped topside now.

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I was able to spray the first coat of semi-gloss black paint later this afternoon, but I'll report on that (and my troubles with it) in the first 3 hours of Day 4.

#69 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Day Three, Part Two: Ready for Prime Time (4 hours)
Quick update: I primed the cabinet, got overzealous and had a few drips. So I sanded the drips down, did a light sanding on the rest, and sprayed a second coat. This time it was perfect (you should do 2 coats of primer anyway, so it didn't bother me to screw up the first coat).

Wow - I've been waiting until it warmed up a bit more. I've not had a 65 degree day to spray.

Have you been having a heat wave in NJ, heat your garage, or just go for it?

What primer did you choose? Are you spraying a base coat / clear coat setup?

BTW - Looking really great!

#70 3 years ago

Boob is it just happenstance that your Pinside EKG graph looks like a fella that died happily in a Viagra moment ?

#71 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

Wow - I've been waiting until it warmed up a bit more. I've not had a 65 degree day to spray.
Have you been having a heat wave in NJ, heat your garage, or just go for it?
What primer did you choose? Are you spraying a base coat / clear coat setup?
BTW - Looking really great!

I don't heat my garage...I just go for it. Don't know where the 65 degree thing comes from. I'm using automotive primer (single-stage activator) and semi-gloss black automotive grade paint with two activators.

I'll be the first to proudly admit that painting is my weakest skill in restorations. It's something I'm struggling with, but because I'm a perfectionist, it will be as close to perfect as possible by the time I stop painting (and if I never told you, you'll never be able to tell I had problems).

It's not about what it looks like during the process, it's about how it looks when you're done. How you get there is a different journey each time.

Quoted from Gryszzz:

Boob is it just happenstance that your Pinside EKG graph looks like a fella that died happily in a Viagra moment ?

First of all, you get double extra bonus points for using "happenstance" in a sentence. Secondly, WTF are you talking about???

#72 3 years ago

great job Boobie

#73 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

I don't heat my garage...I just go for it. Don't know where the 65 degree thing comes from. I'm using automotive primer (single-stage activator) and semi-gloss black automotive grade paint with two activators.

The reducer/activator you mix in your 2k primer is selected based on ambient air temp.

I suppose I could buy a gallon of "fast" reducer - but would rather wait till it gets a bit warmer.

MR186 Medium (65°F-75°F)

#74 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinterest:

The reducer/activator you mix in your 2k primer is selected based on ambient air temp.
I suppose I could buy a gallon of "fast" reducer - but would rather wait till it gets a bit warmer.
MR186 Medium (65°F-75°F)

Blah, blah, blah...whatever you said.

Look...the primer was dry to the touch within about 15 minutes and ready to sand in about 2 hours. I'm not sure how that would change with higher temps and don't care. I just adapt. But this morning, when I wanted to paint and it was raining, my wife warned me that it would look like dick because of the humidity. She's the artist, and she's the painter in the house, so I heeded her advice. Whenever I don't heed her advice, my life turns into a train wreck.

Anybody else notice that about being happily married?...

#75 3 years ago

Has nobody else noticed the collection of Fleshlights on the shelf ? Dude, what is up with that ?!?

#76 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Has nobody else noticed the collection of Fleshlights on the shelf ? Dude, what is up with that ?!?

Hehe, you said "fleshlight"

Made my day.

This restoration makes my ultra shop job on my MM look like child's play. I'm even CC the playfield. But wow on the cab detail boob, wish I could have met you at tpf... Too many games to play with old buddies

#77 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

She's the artist, and she's the painter in the house, so I heeded her advice. Whenever I don't heed her advice, my life turns into a train wreck.

Of course you do - she's much smarter than you are... ...and better looking too!

#78 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

I'll be the first to proudly admit that painting is my weakest skill in restorations.

It's all in the wrist. Seriously.

#79 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Has nobody else noticed the collection of Fleshlights on the shelf ? Dude, what is up with that ?!?

Spray cans, not flashlights. When I grow up, I want to be Bryan Kelly. Won't happen though because I can't spray paint for shit.

#80 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

It's all in the wrist. Seriously.

With that in mind Boob should be an expert.

Quoted from Pinterest:Of course you do - she's much smarter than you are... ...and better looking too!

Shes definitely better looking, but she married Boob, so that would be an argument to her level of intelligence. No offense Janice

So Boob, I'm interested in which method of application are you choosing for the cabinet art?

#81 3 years ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

With that in mind Boob should be an expert.

Shes definitely better looking, but she married Boob, so that would be an argument to her level of intelligence. No offense Janice
So Boob, I'm interested in which method of application are you choosing for the cabinet art?

You're a horrible person.

I'm using the McCune ("I've got huge balls so I'm doing a dry install") Method. Worked great for me on Funhouse and saves a shitload of time. Maybe I'll have someone video it. Maybe not.

I have some sanding and repainting to worry about first...

#82 3 years ago

You know...people should just stop by this thread for a free thumbs-up from me. Honestly, I don't know why I keep giving up-votes to these abusive douchebags.

#83 3 years ago

I know why.

#84 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

You know...people should just stop by this thread for a free thumbs-up from me. Honestly, I don't know why I keep giving up-votes to these abusive douchebags.

BLah,Blah,Blah......I'm amazed you got this far this fast especially with your pie hole flappin so much. Go paint something beside your fingernails.

#85 3 years ago

This will be my last restoration thread.

#86 3 years ago

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

#87 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

This will be my last restoration thread.

Yeah, me too

#89 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Maybe I'll have someone video it.

I hope you will

#90 3 years ago

I’ve decided to sell all my pins and start a bodacious collection of half empty spray-paint cans.untitled_(resized).png
When I do,your paint collection is going to SUCK in comparison.

#91 3 years ago

boob, are you coming to the ohio show by chance? just curious. and great thread so far. looking forward to seeing the progress next.

-T

#92 3 years ago
Quoted from fxdwg:

boob, are you coming to the ohio show by chance? just curious. and great thread so far. looking forward to seeing the progress next.
-T

If I come to the Ohio show, I'll be tiptoeing on the high wire of divorce. My awesome wife has been more than patient with my shenanigans of late (please see the state of our garage above). She went with me to Texas and survived by drinking with Tim Mezel and Dannunz...and everybody else who handed her a beer or wine. And she's scheduled to drink herself into a stupor with Skypilot at Allentown in May...and again at Pintastic. And quite frankly, there's only so much of Skypilot I can stand to see. The guy stole my son from me and raised him as his own--the bastard!--and now he's after my wife.

Thanks for the kind words, and I hope to meet you at a future show!

#93 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

And she's scheduled to drink herself into a stupor with Skypilot at Allentown in May

Quoted from beelzeboob:

and now he's after my wife

#94 3 years ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

Hehe, you said "fleshlight"
Made my day.
This restoration makes my ultra shop job on my MM look like child's play. I'm even CC the playfield. But wow on the cab detail boob, wish I could have met you at tpf... Too many games to play with old buddies

I meant Fleshlight. I was trying to bust boob, hoping people would go look... Fail...

#95 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

... and I hope to meet you at a future show! ...

roger that! and for sure a few rounds for you (and the wife too if she comes along) are on me brother.

Quoted from PinballSTAR:

...I meant Fleshlight...

I caught right on (and had a good chuckle, and admit, I went back and looked at the pics again!), although I have noticed at other pinball events, most dudes are "too" pinball to catch on stuff like that... hell, had a friend of mine flash her tatas at a pinball event once, and no one but me even paid attention... LOL

#96 3 years ago
Quoted from fxdwg:

roger that! and for sure a few rounds for you (and the wife too if she comes along) are on me brother.

I caught right on (and had a good chuckle, and admit, I went back and looked at the pics again!), although I have noticed at other pinball events, most dudes are "too" pinball to catch on stuff like that... hell, had a friend of mine flash her tatas at a pinball event once, and no one but me even paid attention... LOL

I'm having a Hobbit launch party Friday tell your friend she is more than welcome to come on over ; ).
Lol

#97 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

I'm having a Hobbit launch party Friday tell your friend she is more than welcome to come on over ; ).
Lol

Will do. She likes hanging out with my friends more than she likes hanging out with me. I'm not a big drinker. She's married to me so she drinks to make me look better.

#98 3 years ago

I feel guilty for Upvoting that!

#99 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

When I grow up, I want to be Bryan Kelly.

In your dreams, Boob. In your dreams. As of two days ago, I've got one year until I retire. You've got four.

Suck it up, bitch!!

#100 3 years ago

Day Four: F**k...My...Life... (8 hours)

Okay, so I hate restoring cabinets. I mean really, really, REALLY hate restoring them. It's easily the hardest and most time-intensive part of the whole restoration process (and annoying because you have to wear protective crap when you're spraying).

So I spent pretty much the entire 8 hours painting two coats of paint to where I was happy with it. Yes...I'm a little overzealous with the paint and I had more than a few drips that needed to be sanded out and recoated. But for the most part everything came out looking beautiful...even to a picky bastard like me. (The white specks in the closeup pictures aren't visible to the naked eye...don't know if that's from the flash hitting a dust particle or what.)

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So I polished off a quart of paint, and even had to dump a little extra out. I was cleaning off the gun with lacquer thinner and got tired of wearing the stupid respirator. Figured, hey!...it's a calm day. Why not open the garage door and take the mask off?

Wrong.

Sometime during the cleaning of the gun, a gust of wind blew the plastic of my white trash spray tent against the back of the cabinet and stuck to it (even though the paint wasn't totally wet...there was overspray on the plastic, and that stuff is like glue when it's drying). So of course, when I pulled it off, it did damage to the paint on the back...and now I'll have to spend another two hours redoing it with some minor sanding and a repaint. But then THAT'S IT. I'm really happy with the rest of it. (You might notice a small drip on the side of the backbox...not a concern since that will be sanded down and decaled anyway.) All the visible painted surfaces will be good to go at that point.

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Which brings me to a break in this thread. No time to work on the machine before next weekend, at which time I'll be off to frolic with Kahanaohana (Scotty) and check out his pins on Kauai. Next update in three weeks when I do the warning and patent silkscreens and decals. You'll be able to see the fixed paint job in all its glory at that point.

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