As some are aware, I have been working with a few other pinsiders and come up with a pretty cool (I think) sound package for The Big Lebowski. The purpose of this thread is to gather further suggestions moving forward. I am not interested in doing one off versions for different people (way too much work!), but definitely open to feedback from the larger group on potential changes going forward. Everyone has different musical tastes, but hoping we can make further modifications that stay close to the movie/theme...

Also, some shoutouts to some key contributors:

KSP1138 - For the original randomization idea. We used his script as the baseline.
timlah79 - For additional music enhancements, additions, and callouts!
ray-dude - For helping with the distribution and hosting.

Here is where we are at currently:

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Hotel California
==========

1. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version)
2. Green River
3. Bad Moon Rising
4. Sympathy for the Devil
5. Baba O' Riley
6. Evil Ways (Santana)
7. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version) (timlah79 alternate loop)

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Just Dropped In
=========

1. Just Dropped In (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Just Dropped In (timlah79 alternate loop)

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Lookin'
=========

1. Lookin' (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Lookin' (timlah79 alternate loop)

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Oye Como Va
=========

1. Man in Me
2. Oye Como Va (jyeakley loop v1)
3. The Gambler
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Ring of Fire
6. Sultans of Swing
7. Oye Como Va (timlah79 alternate loop)

===============
Run through the Jungle
===============

1. Run through the Jungle (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Proud Mary
3. Paint it Black
4. Born on the bayou
5. Miss you (Rolling Stones)
6. Hurricane
7. Run through the Jungle (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Rug Modes
=========

1. Where’s The Money
a. The Man In Me (timlah79)
b. I Hate You (timlah79 v1)
c. I Hate You (timlah79 v2)

2. Ransom Note
a. Traffic Boom (timlah79)
b. Requiem Mass in D minor

3. Female Form
a. Stock Music
b. Standing On the Corner

4. Ringer
a. Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles (timlah79)
b. Mucha Muchacha

5. See What Happens
a. Placere Sequence (timlah79)
b. Viva Las Vegas

6. Donny
a. My Mood Swings (timlah79)
b. Stamping Ground (timlah79)

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Main (loop, intro, skillshot)
=========

1. The Man In Me (various timlah79 loops)

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Main Multiball
=========

1. Traffic Boom

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Nihilist Showdown
=========

1. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (timlah79 alternate loop)
2. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (jyeakley loop v1)

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Bowling Loop
=========

1. Behave Yourself (timlah79)
2. Dead Flowers (jyeakley loop v1)

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Car Mode Select
=========

1. I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)

PM me. Worst case I can send you a drive that is plug and play.

PM sent

Yeah, not much we can do about that since they are loaded into memory by the DP code. We did add the ability to randomize rug mode songs, Nihilist Showdown, and some callouts though

Shoot me a PM for instructions

This is definitely the most stable this mod has been and most seem happy with it. It is tough since everyone has different musical taste (which I understand), but I am also not interested in customizing images for individuals. So there are really 3 things I have outstanding:

1. The Gambler. Some love it and 1 person keeps messaging me saying they can't stand it. What say you? Should it stay or go? I personally like it, but bias.

2. Grouping. Does it make sense to group songs together? Currently on startup we randomize within each song category (Hotel Calif, Oye Como Va, Run through), but it wouldn't be that hard to group them...e.g. I could re-organized so that all the song #1s played or #2s, etc. on start up. A good example would be to make the original tracks all #1 do that if #1 hit, you would get all three of those songs for that session. OR do we keep as is and everything is a surprise each power up?

3. Any other song swaps? Would love to know!

Thanks!

For sure. Just shoot me a PM. I have a DIY option (free + a couple supplies) if you are willing to invest a few minutes OR I can image it for you.

OK - so based on feedback, I think I am going to leave the latest version (v6) alone for a bit. Played it a lot over the past couple weeks and I am pretty happy with where it is at. Please keep the feedback coming in this thread!

This is going to be soooo cool...stay tuned!

I will let you know. Still a few tweaks left!

OK - version 7 is coming soon. We just started putting this thing through the ringer and will be distributing to a few folks for beta in the next week or so to work out any kinks....

Lots of changes coming. Highlights:

- timlah79 killed it and figured out the Dude Abides wizard mode. He did some amazing work and weaved in Placiere and an instrumental Viva Las Vegas that fits perfectly. He even figured out how to replicate the drugged effect to overlay.

- I downloaded higher quality audio files for a couple songs that weren't the absolute highest quality.

- I re-cut all of the Hotel California and Running through the Jungle tracks so that the intro lengths matched the DP stock lengths. This fixes the issue where the outro would loop and repeat since they were too short.

- Tim added some additional callouts for the "Let's go bowling" ("That creep can roll man")

- Tim added another bowling loop (Tammy)

- Tim added another track to "Female Form" rug mode (Lujon)

- Tim added another track to "See What Happens" (Branded Theme Song)

- I swapped out Babba 'O Riley for Let it Ride (BTO). Babba is a great song, but doesn't fit as nicely.

- I leveled all the songs to be the same volume across the board. This allows a more consistent experience.

- I bumped the music volume to 55% from the stock 40%

There is probably more I missed, but we have been busy. Right now I have the script also randomizing the Dude Abides Wizard music between Stock and Tim's. So on power up, you will get one or the other. This keeps it fresh and fun!

More to come on the release. Big thanks to @timlah79, excellent work!

We are hoping that after this is pushed out, we can let it settle for a bit. Cheers Dudes!

Current summary:

==========
Hotel California
==========

1. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version)
2. Green River
3. Bad Moon Rising
4. Sympathy for the Devil
5. Let it Ride (BTO)
6. Evil Ways (Santana)
7. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version) (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Just Dropped In
=========

1. Just Dropped In (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Just Dropped In (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Lookin'
=========

1. Lookin' (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Lookin' (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Oye Como Va
=========

1. Man in Me
2. Oye Como Va (jyeakley loop v1)
3. The Gambler
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Ring of Fire
6. Sultans of Swing
7. Oye Como Va (timlah79 alternate loop)

===============
Run through the Jungle
===============

1. Run through the Jungle (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Proud Mary
3. Paint it Black
4. Born on the bayou
5. Miss you (Rolling Stones)
6. Hurricane
7. Run through the Jungle (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Rug Modes
=========

1. Where’s The Money
1. The Man In Me (timlah79)
2. I Hate You (timlah79 v1)
3. I Hate You (timlah79 v2)

2. Ransom Note
1. Traffic Boom (timlah79)
2. Requiem Mass in D minor

3. Female Form
1. Stock Music
2. Standing On the Corner
3. Lujon (timlah79)

4. Ringer
1. Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles (timlah79)
2. Mucha Muchacha

5. See What Happens
1. Dick On A Case (timlah79)
2. Viva Las Vegas
3. Branded Theme Song (timlah79)

6. Donny
1. My Mood Swings (timlah79)
2. Stamping Ground (timlah79)

=========
Main (loop, intro, skillshot)
=========

1. The Man In Me (various timlah79 loops)

=========
Main Multiball
=========

1. Traffic Boom

=========
Nihilist Showdown
=========

1. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (timlah79 alternate loop)
2. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (jyeakley loop v1)

=========
Bowling Loop
=========

1. Behave Yourself (timlah79)
2. Dead Flowers (jyeakley loop v1)
3. Tammy (timlah79)

=========
Car Mode Select
=========

1. I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)

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The Dude Abides
===========

Characters: Placiere
Multiball: Instrumental Viva Las Vegas (includes drugged version as well)

Credit to fossmin on that one. Fits perfectly.

Should - where are you hearing F Bombs?

Ah yes, the callouts. I think the only one is the one you mention "Eh, Fuck it Dude, let's go bowling" and "WTF is up with this guy, who is he?" on the jackpot. I suppose I can just remove those completely. I have no way of knowing when Family Mode is enabled, so better to error on the safe side...

==========
Let's Go Bowling
==========

1. Walter "Eh, Fuck it Dude, let's go bowling"
2. Stock actor "Let's Go Bowling"

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Look Down
==========

1. The Dude "That creep can roll, man"
2. Stock actor "Look down"

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Jackpot 1
==========

1. Maude Laughing
2. Stock actor "Jackpot!"

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Jackpot 2
==========

1. Knox Harrington Laughing
2. Stock actor "Jackpot!"

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Jackpot 3
==========

1. Knox & Maude Laughing
2. Stock actor "Jackpot!"

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Super Jackpot 1
==========

1. Maude "Que ridiculo!" + Knox Laughing
2. Stock actor "Super Jackpot!"

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Super Jackpot 2
==========

1. The Dude "WTF is up with this guy, who is he?" + Knox & Maude Laughing
2. Stock actor "Super Jackpot!"

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Super Jackpot 3
==========
1. Knox & Maude Laughing (alternate cut)
2. Stock actor "Super Jackpot!"

I think for now at least, I am going to leave them in. I have gotten a flurry of PMs asking to leave them and I really don't want to maintain 2 different images...

A video of the music in the Dude Abides…

Played a couple games. Gives an idea of some music.

Game 2.

The Character Multiball still uses “What condition my condition was in”, didn’t change that, just added original track. Looking at my back door we just replaced with original track and then timlah79 did a custom track (random between the two).

Not sure what you are talking about…

LOL - this is just a mod dude. It has no bearing on DPs stock music. Definitely wouldn’t cancel anything based on this mod

Gave a few people access to the image. Discovered one last tweak yesterday, but I am out of town i until Sunday…hoping next week sometime can get the final version out!

And....We have a "final" version. Just cut v7.1 earlier this week and testing looks great. Hope you all are enjoying the mod!

PM for info. Here is where we are at:

==========
Hotel California
==========

1. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version)
2. Green River
3. Bad Moon Rising
4. Sympathy for the Devil
5. Let it Ride (BTO)
6. Evil Ways (Santana)
7. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version) (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Just Dropped In
=========

1. Just Dropped In (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Just Dropped In (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Lookin'
=========

1. Lookin' (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Lookin' (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Oye Como Va
=========

1. Man in Me
2. Oye Como Va (jyeakley loop v1)
3. The Gambler
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Ring of Fire
6. Sultans of Swing
7. Oye Como Va (timlah79 alternate loop)

===============
Run through the Jungle
===============

1. Run through the Jungle (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Proud Mary
3. Paint it Black
4. Born on the bayou
5. Miss you (Rolling Stones)
6. Hurricane
7. Run through the Jungle (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Rug Modes
=========

1. Where’s The Money
1. I Hate You (timlah79 v1)
2. I Hate You (timlah79 v2)

2. Ransom Note
1. Traffic Boom (timlah79)
2. Requiem Mass in D minor

3. Female Form
1. Stock Music
2. Standing On the Corner
3. Lujon (timlah79)

4. Ringer
1. Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles (timlah79)
2. Mucha Muchacha

5. See What Happens
1. Dick On A Case (timlah79)
2. Viva Las Vegas
3. Branded Theme Song (timlah79)

6. Donny
1. My Mood Swings (timlah79)
2. Stamping Ground (timlah79)

=========
Main (loop, intro, skillshot)
=========

1. The Man In Me (various timlah79 loops)

=========
Main Multiball
=========

1. Traffic Boom

=========
Nihilist Showdown
=========

1. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (timlah79 alternate loop)
2. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (jyeakley loop v1)

=========
Bowling Loop
=========

1. Behave Yourself (timlah79)
2. Dead Flowers (jyeakley loop v1)
3. Tammy (timlah79)

=========
Car Mode Select
=========

1. I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)
2. Tumbling Tumbleweeds

===========
The Dude Abides
===========

Characters: Placiere
Multiball: Instrumental Viva Las Vegas (includes drugged version as well)

The newer OS (Arch Linux) seems to be way more picky about the format of the USB stick. Before you add the ZIP file, make sure the USB stick is formatted to NTFS. Then try again.

This.

They are a super cool group at DP. Realize that they can never support this as a company. Which I think we all get. Let’s just stay cool on our side, stick to this thread, and all should be good
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Releasing v7.2 this week. timlah79 was back in the lab again working his magic. If you have v7.1, there is no need to panic, the changes are impactful, but minor enough that you don't need to go get another drive if you are not on the DIY path.

Changelog:

- Removed my original Oye Como Va cut since it was identical to Tims
- Added a different cut of the Gambler. They are different enough that it is worth having both. Sounds great.
- Level and balancing on some remaining songs.
- Looping on all the tracks so that there is no longer a natural song fade out at the end...rather, now it loops back to the beginning without fade.
- Remove my original Run through the Jungle cut since it was identical to Tims

Current State of 7.2:

==========
Hotel California
==========

1. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version)
2. Green River
3. Bad Moon Rising
4. Sympathy for the Devil
5. Let it Ride (BTO)
6. Evil Ways (Santana)
7. Hotel California (Gipsy kings version) (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Just Dropped In
=========

1. Just Dropped In (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Just Dropped In (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Lookin'
=========

1. Lookin' (jyeakley loop v1)
2. Lookin' (timlah79 alternate loop)

=========
Oye Como Va
=========

1. Man in Me
2. Oye Como Va (timlah79)
3. The Gambler (jyeakley loop v1)
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Ring of Fire
6. Sultans of Swing
7. The Gambler (timlah79 alternate loop)

===============
Run through the Jungle
===============

1. Run through the Jungle (timlah79)
2. Proud Mary
3. Paint it Black
4. Born on the bayou
5. Miss you (Rolling Stones)
6. Hurricane

=========
Rug Modes
=========

1. Where’s The Money
1. I Hate You (timlah79 v1)
2. I Hate You (timlah79 v2)

2. Ransom Note
1. Traffic Boom (timlah79)
2. Requiem Mass in D minor

3. Female Form
1. Stock Music
2. Standing On the Corner
3. Lujon (timlah79)

4. Ringer
1. Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles (timlah79)
2. Mucha Muchacha

5. See What Happens
1. Dick On A Case (timlah79)
2. Viva Las Vegas
3. Branded Theme Song (timlah79)

6. Donny
1. My Mood Swings (timlah79)
2. Stamping Ground (timlah79)

=========
Main (loop, intro, skillshot)
=========

1. The Man In Me (various timlah79 loops)

=========
Main Multiball
=========

1. Traffic Boom

=========
Nihilist Showdown
=========

1. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (timlah79 alternate loop)
2. Technopop (We Believe In Nothing) (jyeakley loop v1)

=========
Bowling Loop
=========

1. Behave Yourself (timlah79)
2. Dead Flowers (jyeakley loop v1)
3. Tammy (timlah79)

=========
Car Mode Select
=========

1. I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)
2. Tumbling Tumbleweeds

===========
The Dude Abides
===========

Characters: Placiere
Multiball: Instrumental Viva Las Vegas (includes drugged version as well)

Just messing around and testing some bonus loops (not done yet). I cycled the game a couple times to mix up the songs.

Yep. The music/callouts randomize on every power up. I typically leave it on for each session, but since I was testing stuff out I cycled it a couple times to mix it up!

Not sure if you all have noticed the bonus sound sequences on the new release, but timlah79 killed it. It is impressive

8.2

I have actually had a few requests to remove the Gambler. I think the current version is polished up pretty nice. I might do another version with an alternate playlist…just for variety. Or maybe do a larger collection to randomize

Alright. I may regret this. But suggestions from the group on songs you all would like to see?

Shoot me a PM for details...

No - DP loads them into memory after they boot.

Yes, I have an updated image, but have t uploaded it yet.

That said, DP updates can happen as they normally would. They do not impact the music.

Testing this out over the next week or two. Should be ready in a couple weeks. Great stuff @ksp1138!

v9 should be ready for some testers!

This image has been updated to TBL 1.12 and now supports the music config to customize the playlists!

Shoot me a PM if you are interested in testing it out!

Killer update, Thanks @ksp1138!

Yeah, ping me.

If anyone here with some desire to help has a newer (past month) TBL, please PM me. It looks like DP started shipping with different LCD panels and the image I use doesn’t have the offset since the older machines are smaller.

Anyhow, I need to figure out how much the screen needs to be moved down (there is a setting for this in 1.12)

IMG_7018 (resized).jpegIMG_7019 (resized).jpeg

Thanks! Appreciate it!

My assumption is just taller (since DP just added that adjustment), but I can’t be certain until I work with someone that has one.

Shoot me a PM!

It will directly replace the hard drive in the bottom middle of the back box (Jackie Treehorn sticker on it). The latest version is already upgraded to 1.12, but DP version updates happen normally and do not impact the sound mod.

The adjustment for the display is in 1.12, so when you install the mod, just adjust the vertical display to 100.

From op manual

Screenshot 2023-07-16 at 12.52.21 PM (resized).png

Yep, but the latest sound mod image is already upgraded to 1.12.

Glad you are enjoying it!

Yep! I am looking into doing a "Stock" option. Just need some time to do it

Great point! This would definitely be the way to go in the near term!

Enjoy Dude! TBL is a special game for sure!

Check PMs!

PM me the config and I will add it to Dropbox! Thanks for putting that together!

Here is the music config that netman63129 created above:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/35k844ut93o4xd407skdu/master_music.config?rlkey=pm9zp8h7p5j2otrb0yyn9k3ml&dl=0

I can take a look at the config tomorrow. I just uploaded what I was given directly. I can look and provide an updated link.

For the main music there are 3 main slots. On power up, the script randomly chooses which tracks to plug into those 3. The jukebox mode then allows you to listen to whatever was slotted on that power cycle. There is not currently a way for the DP code to even know anything exists outside of the 3 slots. You will also notice that the track titles aren’t right either…

Not much we can do there since it is in the DP code!

.

Shoot me a PM!

Looks great! Nice job!

Looking for someone to assist with imaging a drive and sending to a Pinside member in France. If you are able to assist, please PM me!

Thank you! Very much appreciated!

I installed a cheap USB splitter that hangs out the back of my TBL. This makes it easier to plug in the USB drive without having to take the heavy backglass off all the time!

Definitely a team effort. Thanks for the kind words! timlah79 and KSP1138 have been amazing throughout!

Something like this from Amazon. Super cheap!
Amazon link: https://a.co/d/buepkXd

Pic:
IMG_0758 (resized).jpeg

PM Sent

Was just messing around with some AI voice cloning. This is the free version, there are paid versions that are supposed to be even more accurate. Very interesting...

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g2ru9ewy8of8jrcsqq5ie/TheStrangerAI.wav?rlkey=20cq4hmpvaozqj1v6q62mlto6&dl=0

Also, for the record, I think the callouts are pretty awesome as they are. I had someone mention it to me (changing some callouts) which sent me down this rabbit hole

Check out post #185 above, I have a link to a music config that another did here to only have the original tracks I believe.

When you say "all tries failed" - can you elaborate on what you mean? I think I asked this in a PM, but can you post a pic of what you are seeing on the monitor?

The new OS (Arch Linux) should not really be the issue. DP added a Vertical Display option in v1.12 that I believe would fix you issue, but I would like to confirm. Thanks!

Yeah, but the zoom doesn’t have anything to do with the OS, which was my point. I bet the owner of the other pin hit a zoom setting on the monitor itself. I am not near my pin at the moment, but I recall that there are buttons on the top that might allow this.

Old OS vs New might not be the solution here. My fear is that you will go through a bunch of work to do this with no change….

PM me dude!

PM me!

Every power cycle. Can’t do it on every game due to the way the tracks are loaded into memory on power up.

Use the music config and exclude Kenny from the rotation if it drive you nuts!!

Here is an example of the music config:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i4rrxktyv350lfp/master_music.config?dl=0

If you place the music config (customize to your likings) on a FAT32 (this is key) formatted USB drive and restart TBL, it will pick up the changes!

Anyone here in France or close by that can ship a pinsider a drive? PM please!

120GB should work fine and is typically what I use when they aren’t sold out.

Most likely an issue with the imaging. Did you use Balena Etcher and ensure that the verify ran successfully as well?

Correct. The OS is Arch Linux, so you cannot see anything when you connect the drive to a Mac or PC.

Upgraded to 1.13 today without issue. No impact to the sound mod!

See page 18 of the service FAQ:
https://www.dutchpinball.com/files/support/Technical_Support_TBL_FAQ_Manual.pdf#page18

Hey All - If you have any other additions/suggestions for the Sound Mod, please shoot me a PM. I am thinking about adding some more songs to the rotation, but would like to do it all in a single release vs staggered over a couple! Version 9 has been solid, so I anticipate other than adding a few more songs in v10, that will be final! Thanks!