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The Big Lebowski Preorder Club (Members Only)


By Nilroc

4 years ago



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24 key posts have been marked in this topic, showing the first 20

Post #2465 Tips on removing the upper playfield Posted by sd_tom (2 years ago)

Post #2474 Photo of the updated divertor Posted by sd_tom (2 years ago)

Post #2477 Photos of new tilt graphics side art for TBL Posted by jGraffix (2 years ago)

Post #2506 Factory visit update! Posted by rubberducks (2 years ago)

Post #2926 DP's response to their issue with ARA and game manufacturing. Posted by JimB (2 years ago)

Post #2971 pinghetto contacts ARA for information regarding the delays Posted by pinghetto (2 years ago)

Post #2973 pinghetto information regarding contacting ARA Posted by pinghetto (2 years ago)

Post #3056 ARA's email response about DP's claims. Posted by CrazyLevi (2 years ago)

Post #3483 Jaap from Dutch Pinball counters the ARA story. Posted by Rarehero (2 years ago)

Post #3491 ARA counters the Jaap counter to ARA's previous communication! Posted by Rarehero (2 years ago)

Post #3650 Report from a dinner with Barry of Dutch Pinball. Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #3951 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #4259 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #5004 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Nikonokin (1 year ago)

Post #5229 DP update about an alternative manufacturer Posted by Nikonokin (1 year ago)

Post #5461 Details on June 19th DP Livestream Posted by Nikonokin (1 year ago)

Post #6420 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by KoenHeltzel (1 year ago)

Post #6684 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Concretehardt (1 year ago)


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#5463 1 year ago

Probably not smart to stream test video an hour before with outlook open and people's email addresses showing

#5592 1 year ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

This time without Barry's e-mail inbox!

Yea pretty unprofessional. Good to know who's a regular and gets their own folder for storing archival emails.

#5701 1 year ago

This is a probably a silly question, but has it ever been asked / answered what exactly giving up 51% of the "company" really means? Does it mean ARA simply profits off the rest of the game built? What is the worth of dutch pinball anyway if it's in debt?

What I'm getting at, if giving up the majority of the company gets games built, couldn't the founders simply let "dutch pinball" do what it does (finish manufacturing the only pinball that was designed), and they start up a new company called "dude pinball". This time they learn from their mistake and develop a fully working pinball before taking any pre-order money. It's not like ARA owns the designers and can force them to work on title two. If ARA wants to continue to be in the pinball business, they'll have to hire people to design the next title.

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#6209 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinhead1982:

Being built in China will really reduce labour cost I reckon.

It "could", but I would hope that the dutch owners plan on either making lots of trips, or moving there. Hopefully the latter seeing how China is as far from the netherlands as it is from say New York. Setting up manufacturing via skype won't work. You will end up wasting even more money on tooling that is incorrect that can't be used (see Mike from homepin spending thousands of dollars on tooling for a lockbar only for them to tell him in the end that their press doesn't have enough tonnage to form the shape he needs with reasonable quality, and he LIVES there). Not saying Dutch are building every part (I'd hope they are buying as many off the shelf components as possible), but certainly there are things that need to be tooled up (and have to assemble) Even if all the tooling is correct, manufacturing work procedures and fixtures is almost as much work.

Not trying to be a downer, moving to China is honestly probably their only option at this point (and could make future projects more cost effective), I just hope they realize the uphill battle they have.

8 months later
#8135 9 months ago

if the gofundme was asking for 500k euros to cover lawyer fees, can we assume thats how far they are in the hole? if so, that does not bode well.

7 months later
#8685 30 days ago
Quoted from Micky:

I really don't believe what Kaneda says....ever. Why would he have some magical insider info that no one else knows about? He is just stirring the pot and causing trouble like he always does.

And he still wonders why people don't like him

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