Wonder why no one is mentioning the fact that the rights might be purchasable by another company? If dutch is bankrupt their assets go up for sale. If someone buy's the rights they can make the game without the need for the R&D. Now, the license with universal may transfer or it might have to be repurchased, but this seems more likely than a bankrupt dutch finding a new manufacturer and the funds to build more themselves.

I reached out to cointaker and would be a buyer at 12.5 on the current lot. Its gambling that they never get made again. Problem is cointaker is only doing wire transfer or check and I am not sitting on 12.5k. In other words no cc. I know I can quickly get the funds by selling a few from my collection, but don't want to risk selling games that are hard to get only for the 40 to sell out before I pay. So I am out.

If the game gets back into production? No way I'd pay 12.5. Not sure I'd pay 9. At that point its just another production game and I'd be more likely to sit and wait for a used one.

Have you been reading this thread? As for alien I did not ask, nor care. Already own it.

Well, I get that coin taker doesn't want fee's. On the flipside it knocks out a lot of buyers because 12.5 grand is not something many of us have sitting around. On the other hand couple no interest credit cards and a few pins to sell? Very doable.

Lot of companies take cc when buying pins though. Cointaker has also been good about refunding deposits on this title already.

I have debated it. The 375 doesn't bother me one bit tbh.

That is debatable. they may go up, they may go down. Hard to tell.

Which is why I said debatable. Parts availability/repair knowledge has historically kept some titles value low. Mystery Castle,AG Soccerball/USA Football for alvin g. Pinball Magic is another. DE/Sega large and small dmd games.

Essentially if it is perceived as hard to get parts for or difficult to maintain it hurts the value. Alien suffers from this a bit. Full Throttle really suffers from it.

Bar had what 20 something protos and over 200 of the remakes? Its on part with the likes of Mystery Castle or Alien. Bar parts availability (even in the mid 2000s when gene sat on all the capcom stuff) was better than alvin g ever was. Repair knowledge was much higher than alvin g. Alien is similar in production numbers claimed (although i do question it), but its not as reliable. If it weren't for a few dedicated in the community it would probably be worth well under 10k because once it breaks you'd be sol.

disagree. I would have been in for 12.5 if i could have used a cc as I didn't have 12.5 in cash sitting around that day. If they only built 100 more I'd debate buying one at 10, but if it made it to regular production no way I'd pay 10 in its current form. At that points its not rare and frankly there are better games for the money. Design wise its a little dated already compared to the latest machines coming out.

I looked at buying one. There were no assurances. You can buy a highly desireable 12.5k machine that was it. There was no assurance that parts would be available. The guy had a point, you don't.

Good luck with that. a 10k pro model? Won't sell. If this were in regular production for 10k today it would probably be received rather cooly. Some would buy it for the theme, but many would probably look at it and pass as there are other games for less that offer too many features. It pulls 12.5k right now because it is rare, that is it. Same with Alien.

Interesting news, but 500 machines at 12.5k? Don't see it. 40 machines at 12.5k after 20 were released in the us and a low chance it ever gets made again? Sure.

500? Not a chance. Market doesn't bear it for any other game. Even things like CCC which we know will never happen again or TRON LE which most likely won't happen again don't support that pricing. BBB had less than half that number made and if it had been silly expensive up front it would have never been funded.

If they manage to get this back in production I am betting they run out of buyers. Too much money for not enough game.

So much for the tbl seller saying there is only a 10 percent chance of anymore getting made.

True but any more machines that get released will affect the value of the existing machines. Say 25 more get made, that is still 25 percent increase in the population

Except bw games were never super deep. Stern raised thst bar starting eith tspp and lotr. Since then we have seen ever evolving rulesets.

Not sayong tbl is bad, but comparing it to bw which ceased to exist 2 decades ago is not a useful metric.

Disagree. I have been on the fence for a year now about buying one. Do not see the point in paying more for a used game. I get no warranty. No nib experience. If I have issues its my problem. If it was out of production that is an entirely different story, but if the only barrier is going on a wait list? Nope.

The other is the price has dropped and will most likely continue to do so. The supply is going up. Its clear dp isn't done making them and isn't likely to implode like initially thought.

Lastly, now the newer ones are improved. If I am buying I'd rather not have an older one. If it is an older one I won't pay as much as the ones with updated fixes.

Looking at joining the preorder club tonight. I too have an alien, but have not played TBL. Mostly doing it because I want the theme. Have never played the game.

At what point where there not concerns? This is a group of people who could not keep the original game in production despite demand.

This is a design where the electronics in the original are abysmal. I say this as someone who has owned Full Throttle (just sold) and an early alien that has been converted to the later hardware.

This coming from a preorder which led buyers to believe that they were ready to be shipped, and would be shipped by Q1. Here we are at the end of Q1 and they still cannot show a full gameplay video.

What part of the new Alien doesn't scream trainwreck?

I refused to pay 15k to skip the line. Waiting isn't that big a deal. Have the cash in the bank for whenever my number comes up too.

Timelines like this really make me wonder...
Ordered: 03-23-2021

I emailed cointaker yesterday and was told I am 5 months out. It seems, off.

My concern is that there are multiple people that have said that cointaker will tell them one thing, but the reality will be different. Am I concerned that I will get ripped off? No, but I am concerned that in 5 months I am not going to be seeing a game. Something tells me that it is going to take longer than 8 months.

Well guys I canceled my order. I was told 8 months from the start. 3 months in I checked and was told I was 5 months out. Hearing that people are at a year and a half to just pay in full and I think there are better things I can do with my funds.