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The Big Lebowski Preorder Club (Members Only)


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Post #2465 Tips on removing the upper playfield Posted by sd_tom (3 years ago)

Post #2474 Photo of the updated divertor Posted by sd_tom (3 years ago)

Post #2477 Photos of new tilt graphics side art for TBL Posted by jGraffix (3 years ago)

Post #2506 Factory visit update! Posted by rubberducks (3 years ago)

Post #2926 DP's response to their issue with ARA and game manufacturing. Posted by JimB (2 years ago)

Post #2971 pinghetto contacts ARA for information regarding the delays Posted by pinghetto (2 years ago)

Post #2973 pinghetto information regarding contacting ARA Posted by pinghetto (2 years ago)

Post #3056 ARA's email response about DP's claims. Posted by CrazyLevi (2 years ago)

Post #3483 Jaap from Dutch Pinball counters the ARA story. Posted by Rarehero (2 years ago)

Post #3491 ARA counters the Jaap counter to ARA's previous communication! Posted by Rarehero (2 years ago)

Post #3650 Report from a dinner with Barry of Dutch Pinball. Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #3951 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #4259 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Rensh (2 years ago)

Post #5004 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Nikonokin (2 years ago)

Post #5229 DP update about an alternative manufacturer Posted by Nikonokin (2 years ago)

Post #5461 Details on June 19th DP Livestream Posted by Nikonokin (2 years ago)

Post #6420 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by KoenHeltzel (2 years ago)

Post #6684 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Concretehardt (1 year ago)


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#4834 2 years ago

I really want to see the machines come out, so I hope Dutch and ARA can agree on something. There are plenty of options to make more machines. The market is certainly larger than 300 machines, and any marketing material limiting to 300 games leaves a lotta ins lotta outs and what have yous. We don't see their licensing agreements, but the Dutch to Customer agreement is fairly vague.

For example, 300 games could be 300 as described, so they could make a few hundred "pro" version without the bowling lane at a sub $8,500 price and still honor the marketing claims. I bet a lot of people would jump in for that. There are way more than 300 people gawking at this thread.

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#6260 2 years ago

It's a fun game. I shot a 360 video of it at Chicago Pinball Expo.

The I probably needed the camera pointed down into the bowling alley, but this is a fun game. I like the warm orange colors on it.

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#6534 1 year ago

I have a pinball machine shaped empty spot in the basement, waiting on Cointaker's second crate to arrive from China. I am super excited for the machine!

#6537 1 year ago

I'm not low enough on the list at Cointaker to get one from the first container. So, I am hoping to get one from the second shipment.

#6558 1 year ago

This is an awesome idea. Wish I could upvote more than once.

Quoted from burningman:

Combo shots are needed. A few random ideas...
Hit the Walter ramp then the donnie orbit and get the "shut the fuck up donnie" award.

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#6642 1 year ago

I am pretty excited by the crate photo. That engineering sample in the photo is a major milestone. I imagine it's getting the "You see what happens. You see what happens, Larry!" treatment. I would be less excited if a good 2 weeks didn't pass before they approve the samples. If they get approved too quickly, a problem might slip through.

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#7348 1 year ago

What will the community think of a buyer who might acquire a machine from a hypothetical auction of the machines in a liquidation? If ARA gets to sell them, they would not owe them to the original buyers.

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#7913 1 year ago

I have no doubt that DP has the license to The Big Lebowski IP. But, I bet Universal might shout “OVER THE LINE” when they see TBL IP used in a video for a legal defense gofundme. I would expect a cease and desist will result in a takedown of this strategy pretty soon.

I want this to work out well. At the end of the day. There is a load of demand. There is a designed and manufacturable product, already tooled up.

#7921 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Sorry but there's no way it hasn't expired by now. Also proving ability to manufacture is required now which they've also failed at.
This is like a dog with 3 broken legs. Might still be alive but best to put a bullet in its head.

DP would have had a much bigger company than ARA on them if they weren’t clean (or cleanish) in Universal’s view. My main point is that the gofundme is based off of stolen IP, which is not legal, but also tacky AF.

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#8305 1 year ago

What do the non-EAs think about the chances of this coming out in 2019?

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#10330 3 months ago
Quoted from drfrightner:

I don't think ANYONE is going to pay $45k that just isn't going to happen. I have the game and if someone wants to pay me $40k SOLD! LOL
How much do you realistically think someone would pay?

According to the ad it is from Denmark, which makes it a one of one edition from when Dutch Pinball was in Denmark and not the Netherlands.

If you are going to put up a premium ad going for a skim price, don’t bone up the basic facts. As Walter would say, “Bleeping Amateurs!” Geography ain’t that hard.

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#10470 3 months ago

I would be in for a NIB at $10k to $12.5k with a 10-15% non-refundable deposit and a sub 1 year delivery time, in case anyone in this thread is doing actual market research.

#10505 3 months ago
Quoted from stevevt:

I don't know what to say about this.

I'm totally for non-refundable partial deposits, with a product delivery window clause. Partial deposits get assembly lines moving faster, while full deposits remove the hustle incentive from the upstart manufacturer. That's what we had in this case, as full deposits created a pile of money that wasn't managed well. Partial deposits make upstarts hustle to complete games, because they get paid on completion. The games rolling off first have to have good quality, because we'll document all of it.

Separately, we could debate if DP deserves this third/fourth chance. But, non-refundable partial deposits ensure both parties are motivated to get the transaction completed positively. It separates tire kickers from real buyers if there's $1,000 at stake.

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