Thanks for the pic. Still waiting on a new newsletter which feels a little....overdue, but it's something. Hopefully it's the slow trickle before the update floodgates open.

Been too afraid to get excited about this given all the other (j) flops in the pinball world lately. Dare I say my hopes are getting up now. Keep the updates coming DP. Don't break my heart. Go Dutch!

I'd be really disappointed if the apron didn't have the cut stars. They really tie the game together. Seriously, keep the rug DP, but give me the stars. Let's just hope the aprons in the pic aren't what wind up in the game.

Anyone else notice the Wrestlemania translite to the left in the pic with the 2 cabs?

Was there any good news from this presentation? Could anyone that attended comment on the mood or demeanor during and following the announcements? They fielded questions so surely someone asked about solid delivery dates, apron, song clarification, etc. The only firsthand account I've seen is from pinball news. Reading this thread right now is depressing after hoping for excitement.

Also, if you read this DP, please respond to emails.

Yeah, but with the way things are trending it might just be a zizzle. A premium price should deliver a premium machine. DP need to be upfront about this stuff, and prove that the reward for being a "True Believer" isn't getting boned.

If by updated you mean the removal of key elements, then sadly the answer seems to be yes.

Right now I'd settle for a company that communicates with its customers.

Pinsider Skins covered some of those in this thread
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/from-expo-no-licensed-songs

Feel the same here. I'd love to stay positive, but there have been a number of missteps from DP along the way, and the excuses don't always ring true in my opinion. Dropping a bomb like the song removal after already missing 2 promised shipping dates does not instill me with confidence. If the "master" Roger Sharpe set them straight on the music wouldn't he have done that over 9 months ago? Why are we just hearing that now? Please explain the picture with music approved stamped on his forehead. Modding the clips afterwards might be a solution, but my $8500 went to a licensed game with an impressive song list.

How far along is the code? Is it really just a circuit board redesign we're waiting on? If so, why was the code so incomplete at expo? Are the protos out of date, or is there some other reason? I certainly don't want to have another promised shipping date missed, but not providing at least a rough estimate sounds like a stall tactic to me. "We can't give a date but we're close" is a nonsense statement that puts no pressure on them to deliver. The dates don't seem to matter anyway, but it at least puts some pressure on them. (PRE)Production games will be at DPO. Guess that is something to look forward to, but after the expo flop I have limited expectations.

It was nice to have a NSNL with some real information, but I'm a little burnt out on the process. Maybe I'm being very Undude not rolling along with this, but it feels like we never get the full story. The game is already late, and their expo was a debacle. It was supposed to be a victory lap not a firey crash.
I want to believe, but can't shake the nagging doubt.

Can I? It was my understanding the full refund time period has passed. Of course a lot has changed so I don't see why that shouldn't as well. I've asked DP about refund options and am awaiting a response which should come soon. Part of my irritation is due to the thought 100% refund might not be offered, but I guess I'll find out.

To be clear I'm not sure I want out yet, but I'd like to know my options. Also, there is nothing wrong with asking tough questions at this point. DP should be able to answer them. If they can't we should all be concerned. I want this game to succeed as much as anyone else in on this.

Very positive indeed! That is more like it.

Agreed. We're actually long overdue for having machines in houses and bars. I'm ok with that for now as long it seems like meaningful progress is being made, but how would we know? Sure would be nice if DP could finally get this communication thing down. Where are we at?

Yeah I can't believe that the rug modes will remain in that state. No way they'd dedicate the rug mech (a centerpiece of the game) and the entire middle of the playfield with the rug inserts just as an excuse to show videos and repeat random shots? Please tell that isn't the case. Hopefully we'll hear a little more from DP on this soon.

Shoot, just steal ideas from other games.
Rug Pisser mode - Bash rug up the middle for increasing point totals. Like bull dozer in Road Show.
Walter Beating in Larry's neighbors car - 100 switch hits in limited time to score a bonus similar to Bonesaw in Spider-Man
Etc, etc.

Those ideas aren't outstanding but they are miles better than repeating random shots over and over again. No way DP can be happy with that, right? Have to believe those are placeholders, but they did not indicate that as far as I can tell.

Yeah, I'd take a No New Sh*+ Newsletter at this point just to know they didn't forget my email. They were scheduled to have 20 production machines up by now. How can there be nothing to report?

Fingers crossed for tomorrow as Friday's seem to usually be the day. Toes are crossed that there is actually some meaningful information in the next one like some more details about the code progression. Ahem.. RUG MODES!

Coitus ruins everything

Congrats on the family expansion Hensbrooker!

Does this comment make you feel good or bad about yourself? If it's the former you may need the reality check.

Of course there is a long road ahead for this to work, and it might not. There have been some promising updates combined with better communication from DP so things are looking a little better. We've at least got dates now that can serve as benchmarks that confirm if this newfound hope is legit or more smoke. Time will tell.

To be fair you did not use the preferred nomenclature. Wu is clearly an Asian-American, please.

Predicting delivery dates is only “impossible” if you have no idea what is happening. I’ve had some cautious optimism about one day actually getting my TBL. These guys appear to be making things move along, but that statement takes a big dump on that optimism. You have engineering samples so the bill of materials should be set. You know what parts are needed, where to get them, how much they cost, and how long it takes to build with an inexperienced team that should only get faster. What is missing to give delivery estimates?

I’d guess the missing element is funding which needs to be supplemented by new orders that also need to be built. If there was strong confidence that will not be a problem we should have dates. An approach like building 10 new orders and then a couple early achievers would be nice and is predictable. We don’t have dates.

Same message here

Anyone know the last Early Achiever number to go out? Scrolled back and it looked to be somewhere around 70. That update at all?

As someone who is like 60+ EA’s away I need a damn angel fleet to take flight already. Maybe my grandkids can enjoy this game. I’ll certainly take progress news though. Thanks Rensh!

Anyone know where the shipped EA count is at? Last I heard was low 90’s end of September.

Anyone know the latest EA number to go out?

If it makes you feel any better I was invoiced in like 2014(I can’t even remember) and still no game

Hoping that changes soon though and it wouldn’t be possible without others jumping in. Hope you hear something soon.

Got my EA Lebowski earlier this week and finally got it into the basement. Super excited!

I’m also experiencing some switch issues in early play. On startup the right flipper had a stuck closed error. The opto isn’t registering properly. Unsurprisingly in play the right flipper flutters and sticks on occasion. Put a few games on it anyway and then had 5 total issues pop up and all were stuck closed stand up targets. 2 under White Russian, the right lock and the right Nihlist. I’ll be getting a switch gap tool as well but they are not holding the gaps