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The Big Lebowski Preorder Club (Members Only)

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Post #2465 Tips on removing the upper playfield Posted by sd_tom (7 years ago)

Post #2474 Photo of the updated divertor Posted by sd_tom (7 years ago)

Post #2477 Photos of new tilt graphics side art for TBL Posted by jGraffix (7 years ago)

Post #2506 Factory visit update! Posted by rubberducks (7 years ago)

Post #2926 DP's response to their issue with ARA and game manufacturing. Posted by JimB (7 years ago)

Post #2971 pinghetto contacts ARA for information regarding the delays Posted by pinghetto (7 years ago)

Post #2973 pinghetto information regarding contacting ARA Posted by pinghetto (7 years ago)

Post #3056 ARA's email response about DP's claims. Posted by CrazyLevi (7 years ago)

Post #3483 Jaap from Dutch Pinball counters the ARA story. Posted by Rarehero (7 years ago)

Post #3491 ARA counters the Jaap counter to ARA's previous communication! Posted by Rarehero (7 years ago)


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#3316 7 years ago
Quoted from twoplays25c:

Ya know, I have NO dog in this fight - other than to say this is one massive screwed-up mess.
Such a damn shame.
I just wanted to add the following 'two cents' to the many comments and opinions about this situation:
I worked for 12+ years for a global company, and we had sales staff based in the Netherlands.
Really nice people, wonderful - but my old employer discovered the court and legal system is a total nightmare (compared to our system here in the States). I recall that we spent countless dollars and several expensive corporate lawyers, just trying to get one inept sales person 'let go.' It was basically a 'contract for life' employment system at the time - some quirky crap about BOTH the employer AND the employee had to 'agree' together to the terms of termination, be paid what EACH felt was appropriate for years of service, and the employee could not be 'besmirched.'
I seem to even recall the company had to assist (pay?) to help him find similar new employment. Whatever it all was, my ex-employer was tied up in their courts there for more than FIVE years fighting this.
If anyone here thinks a legal action between DP and ARA will be swiftly settled, with settlement or damages awarded in a timely manner (as us Americans perceive it) or with anything resembling a 'quick process,' then go grab a bag of popcorn. Working this through their legal system could take YEARS.
More insult=more injury.

Courts anywhere can be slow and delay is a tactic one or both sides often uses very intentionally. There has been a bit of Dutch bashing here and having spent a fair bit of time there I think it is totally unwarranted. Great place and people.

This sounds like a classic situation where parties (DP and ARA) went into it hoping everything would work out. It didn't and now they have to litigate the contract. That is never pleasant for anyone except maybe the lawyers who happily bill away by the hour.

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#4942 6 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Can confirm that European pinball companies seem to take a lot of holidays.

Not just Europeans and not just people at pinball companies!

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