I just want TBL to be made again, but sadly, not sure we'll see that happen, with things the way they are.
Hmm...well this would be an interesting turn of events. Regardless of the mess with the company, etc, it sucks to hear about Jaap and the prognosis.
And yeah, I want the game as well. After the EAs get theirs, I'll gladly pay you for a machine, once I know the game is already built. No "We'll gladly build you a game tomorrow, for money today" anymore with Dutch Pinball.
12.5K...uh...no one(I wouldn't *think*) is going to pay that much, to DP directly at this point, on a promise of a game.
Man, I should have made the offer to buy someone's spot out a few weeks ago, when it was a topic of conversation. I didn't think there was any chance we'd see movement on this, so quickly, relatively speaking, after the court stuff.
Quoted from dung:
I reached out to cointaker and would be a buyer at 12.5 on the current lot. Its gambling that they never get made again. Problem is cointaker is only doing wire transfer or check and I am not sitting on 12.5k. In other words no cc. I know I can quickly get the funds by selling a few from my collection, but don't want to risk selling games that are hard to get only for the 40 to sell out before I pay. So I am out.
If the game gets back into production? No way I'd pay 12.5. Not sure I'd pay 9. At that point its just another production game and I'd be more likely to sit and wait for a used one.
Hmm, wire transfer/check only...yeah that clouds things a bit....
Yeah, I use CCs for my own protection, like most consumers. I'm not as likely to try and wire transfer 12.5k (if I had it sitting to send). If it is just about the fees, I'm like dung...I don't mind covering the fees. But if it is moreso for protection against DP, well...kind of hard to argue against their stance, tbh.
Quoted from Concretehardt:
The non EA price before the shit hit the fan was 10k from memory (included chrome armor and rug) + $500 shipping (the Euro was much stronger then so not sure how that effects) so best case if the can get these made is 10.5k shipped.
And I think...I'm ok with that price, assuming it isn't cash up front The game is awesome, I'm just hoping against hope, that we see production again.
Quoted from foxtj24:
DP owes 150 games that have been paid in full. They are about 1.3 million in debt with no assets. Who in their right mind would partner with them?
Well, to be Devil's Advocate here...Barry could go to potential partners, and say/show them "Look, we just sold 40 units in minutes basically, at 12.5k a pop. The demand for this game is there."
Now...I'm not saying this would work, or that any manufacturer would go for it, I'm just saying, he has something to present, currently.
Yeah, I'm sure they're aware that they won't continuously sell at $12.5k. That was priced that way for a reason.
Quoted from Dkjimbo:
So I am guessing Cointaker already has a list going for these hypothetical next set 400-500 of games. Does anyone know how long that list currently is? What sort of deposit (if any) is required?
They've got a long running list, I'm not sure how many names are on it, but they definitely have a 'list'.
Quoted from Pinhead1982:
When you say 100’s - do you 100’s or several 100’s?
I think CT/Melissa is talking about their personal machines, they are in the 1xx number range, as EAs themselves. Not how many machines are going to be sold, names on the list, etc.
Though, I definitely would love to know how many folks are on the list, at this point.
I think the bigger concern, if this pipe dream actually happens, isn't that it will be 500 games in before all EAs are made whole, but....
The belief that ~400 people out there, are willing to drop 12.5k on the game. Barry really needs to find a way to put the price between the original EA number (7500?) and the 12.5k that was used to, in theory, rejuvenate DP. I'm not sure there are 400 buyers out there, at 12.5k.
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