I don't mind the stars gone from the apron, as I'm still old school and need the instruction cards there.
BUT I would really miss the illuminated Big Lebowski emblem in the center so I hope at least that one returns to the production machines.
I'm wondering why they're going with two discrete powersupplys instead of using only the MW RSP-500? in combination with a M3-ATX DC-DC converter to run the PC components.
Quoted from Deaconblooze:
but they deducted 3% for a "processing fee".
3% is what Paypal eats up from all transactions.
You normally don't see that when you purchase something, cause the vendor has to "pay" that fee.
But just try to use Paypal for sending money as a gift to someone, and you'll see these 3% added to your bill
Quoted from sd_tom:
This is our concern dude. If the word placeholder would of been spoken anywhere I don't think we'd be talking too much about it.
On the opposite.
If the've used that word, half the pinside mob would have gone nuts about still having placeholder modes while:
a) the game was delayed for so long and code still not finished?!
b) the game is now supposed to be shipping and code not finished?!
So, I could just send ARA 1k €uros and then would get my machine? ...tempting and if it's just fo the fun of seeing others go berserk over the next few months of further delays
If what Jaap tells is true, I wondern if ARA is really solely resposible for the delays or the inability to build the 300 Lebowski's till the end of 2016.
As if not (like delays due to design errors and re-engineering parts), that deal might be hard to hold on for 100%, despite ARA beeing the one missing the deadline.
Quoted from karl:
Who want their Game instead of a rocky path to the cliff of death instead?
Well, with accepting this deal, only the already built machines might be "save"
There is absolutely no guarantee that they will continue to assemble the other 200 pins....so there is big potential to screw over many owners anyway.
Quoted from bounoun:
so why not start the law suit already ? why this stalling with trying to figure out a way with ARA ?
A lawsuit would mean a stall of any activity for at least two or more years.
So no pins whatsoever to anyone and surely no Lebowski's built by any other manufacturer.
Quoted from Rensh:
ARA has for sure no interest in assembling more machines. They will sell off the finished goods and parts and that’s it.
I don't know.
If they have all the parts to build complete machines, it makes no sense to not assemble them.
The market for selling just the parts is quite slim, as only so few pins were made. So why not invest like say 3k$ into assembling and sell NIB TBL's for 10k?
Sure, after all the stock is gone, that would be it and they never ever think about pinball again.
Quoted from jayhawkai:
Anyone know why the donor list is anonymous when this other garbage gofundme includes full names? Is it something the gofundme creator control
No, the backers control if their name is shown or not.
I think nobody wants to admit that they sunk any more money into that scam hole, so that is why they all do it anonymous
I bet that most EAs would be willing to put up to maybe 4k € again....but only on delivery of a machine and not for some preorder/get-the-production-going stunt
Quoted from foxtj24:
Anther 50%. Hell no.
May I ask why not?
So you are paid in full with 8k and now have the choice of:
- do nothing and flush these 8k down the toilet
- spend another 4k and get a TBL
Yes you would spend 12k for a pin, but the resale value of this machine would be most likely higher, even if they produce another 100-250 pcs.
Heck, I could even see EAs spend another 8k for a guaranteed pin, as even then it's at least a zero sum game. (of course only of you plan on selling it one day)
Quoted from RTR:
Dude, just send me my parts. I can handle assembly
Hmm, really? Did not know that US citizens are capable of handling the metrics screws required for that machine
You have access to another TBL that can be used as guide to assemble a new one? As I don't think there is any manual for the game that could be used.
Moreover, while I believe that maybe it's possibly to assemble all the physical parts without any official documentation, when it comes to cabling it gets hairy... (though TBL may not look that bad from far away, as many PCBs and few wires)
Quoted from flynnibus:
The ARA setup was small scale... It's not like they would have had full parts for hundreds of machines on hand.
I am pretty sure that once I saw a picture of parts from within the ARA factory, that showed boxes with parts and a batch number of #300
I think the pic was even commented in the way to assure the audience about that number.
...but I could remember incorrectly
...or the number was a make up
Withing these numbers, there may be
a) a lot of Cointaker 1k people
b) more that jumped ship after the EA number reveal by Dutch Pinball
So I'm quite sure there are are no 187 games payed for in full.
If DP is really able to build more machines, a decent move would be to ask the EA's if they wanna shove in another 3 - 4.5k $ to make the 12.5k whole and get their machines first, or just wait till the end of line and get them for the original and already paid price.
Sure, DP would make less money upfront, but also need to build and sell much fewer machines to regular customers, in order to be able to afford all the EA pins in the end.
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