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The Big Lebowski Preorder Club (Members Only)

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9 years ago


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Post #2465 Tips on removing the upper playfield Posted by sd_tom (7 years ago)

Post #2474 Photo of the updated divertor Posted by sd_tom (7 years ago)

Post #2477 Photos of new tilt graphics side art for TBL Posted by jGraffix (7 years ago)

Post #2506 Factory visit update! Posted by rubberducks (7 years ago)

Post #2926 DP's response to their issue with ARA and game manufacturing. Posted by JimB (7 years ago)

Post #2971 pinghetto contacts ARA for information regarding the delays Posted by pinghetto (7 years ago)

Post #2973 pinghetto information regarding contacting ARA Posted by pinghetto (7 years ago)

Post #3056 ARA's email response about DP's claims. Posted by CrazyLevi (7 years ago)

Post #3483 Jaap from Dutch Pinball counters the ARA story. Posted by Rarehero (7 years ago)

Post #3491 ARA counters the Jaap counter to ARA's previous communication! Posted by Rarehero (7 years ago)


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#1292 7 years ago
Quoted from HENSBROOKER:

Hi Dudes!
Let me tell you a story...
About a girl who got really excited to open up a box... A really big box!
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Gently opening the box. First signs of it's contents...
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Undoing the box...
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And the rest of the carton... Holy moly!
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Hey... New switchbutton spot!
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And of course the über cool Rug!
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Quickly put it on it's back and checkout those high gloss cabinet decals. They look amazing!
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Attaching the legs and put it on the rug.
"It really ties..." Yes, that!
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Open up the playfield to do some setup stuff...
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... Nice plaque ...
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... Closeup view on the bowling assembly...
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Now closing all up again and we're ready for the first spin!
First STARTUP (after transport and handling) is always a bit exciting. TBL held up perfectly and gave a nice startup sequency.
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First game / ball went to the misses...
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Light-show and animations are over the top!
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Ended my first ever TBL game with a close to 7Mil score, which seemed not to bad after playing a lot more games!
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For all of you who are waiting for theirs -> It's a stunner!

Great to see that unboxed! Power of the inpatient youth! Game looks beautiful. Wonder how it plays? Modes? Code?

2 weeks later
#1408 7 years ago

Business was slow last two weeks in Holland due to vacations and holidays. So would think they crank up production this week if we are not all capped in the traffic jam

9 months later
#3430 7 years ago
Quoted from kapsreiter:

What a Horror Story!
Sorry for all supporters and there lost Money

Now that is a premature conclusion. I would wait and see what happens. This may take some time, but I hope they can work it out, as this is in general not good for pinball.

1 month later
#3904 7 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Basically...people taking money for something that's at the very baby stages of development = pre-order. I think this model is pretty dead in 2017

I don't think anyone without a trusted reputation will ever get enough money to "kickstart" a project ever again. If Dutch is expecting pre-order money for game 2 to bail them out of game 1...I don't see it happening.

Ok, wonder how Kickstarter did 2 billion last year - https://www.kickstarter.com/help/stats
In my eyes the same, you make a product get money for showing it, most of these items then get dissembled to see how they can ramp up production. A lot of kickstarter projects are way to late, or even never get happen. There is a risk to be early adapter.

A lot of persons can make a great machine, look at the HEP and Homebrew community. Only few will succeed in building a business. But that is not only with pinball.

If dutch shows a new great game, complete with code and all and will tell you they have these ready to order and will be build by some one else than ARA. A lot of people will get an order in. Wonder how many persons know about the issues with TBL.

#4272 7 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

While I hope everyone gets theirs sooner, I actually feel like this might be worse than jpop and kulek, as these guys are overseas. Just unbelievable.

Hard to compare this as Kulek did not have a license, DP does, and JPOP did not have a working game, DP does. Point is each situation is totally different. Again only half a year ago DP had it in the bag, a good 'killer' title, games shipping, and ramping up production. Then money issues with their only and needed partner. The overseas part is in my eyes no issues. I do a lot of work with overseas US, India, all different places. The issue is still communication. Although I live in the Netherlands, that does not mean I can knock each day on their doors. I think that last new letter told the story and there is just no news right now.

#4395 7 years ago

Well something is moving, hope the manager was fired because of the problem, not that he was fired because he proposed the solution. I hope Jonathan is going on with his pursuit to get some answers.

2 months later
#5735 6 years ago

Well, I look at it in another way. They have the right to take the money as long as they deliver the product. Only problem here is when will they deliver. Anything you pre-order, the money can be used to pay for anything, including salary. If that is furniture or travel or a car, it doesn't matter. Same applies for Kickstarters, Corporate investments, etc. Companies like Spotify, Uber etc have never made any money but have sky high salaries for CxO's. As long as investors and people trust the company, anything goes. Sometimes this creates a 'bubble'. Now with most products you will only loose limited money and no one will really have a problem with it.
On the refund part, that will be different. But I can understand that same as a bank, you can not give all people their money back at the same time. So also there will be some regulation. Problem is still that DP stated you will get the game you payed for and somewhere there is still the cash to do this. Only question is when will they deliver?

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