appreciate you're filling in additional details.. but those aren't in this email exchange, that's stuff you're adding to the story. So, sorry if people aren't reading the email with the same insight as yourself

Yeah. Just thinking we have an email where Jaap sets a lists of expectations with "in principle we agree.. if.." and then the ARA guy says "As agreed:" with a bunch of items that are not clear, full of wiggle room and room for interpretation.. like "Steps are taken" and "Sort out" ... if this email is the extent of the contract modification that occurred, then nothing is going to be clear cut in the court case.. no smoking gun here. that's all i was saying. Thats assuming the translation we were provided didn't overly dumb it down for us.

obviously they didnt get enough in writing as now they too are SOL , space and time wasted as this ARA lawsuit now churns.

why do you keep posting in here? you seem intent on stirring the pot with either fake news or twisting things to wost possible interpretation. there are a lot of valid negative things to say about DP but come on.

it is as if you will benefit somehow from speeding up this implosion. so whats it to you? are you looking to pick up a container of ARA games to resell or what?

some people confuse what someone says with how they say it. i hope that being a dick about it or presenting speculation as fact will always get somebody a thumbs down.

seems like in this case if there really were people wanting to put more money in on this to see it out... it would be better to go about being actual investors vs gofundme so you get to see the books, etc.. gofundme just allows more of the same behavior to happen.

IMHO the deeproot guy has been a blowhard since day one so id take anything he says with giant grain of salt

don't disagree

its was pretty clear in the email they sent out

We think there's 150 outstanding orders right? so that's $3300 per person to get to 500k. And I would imagine this legal 500k goal is more, possibly much more, than whatever the ARA price increase that they balked at was? That seems more likely to fund than getting 500k from strangers or EAs without it concretely pointing to progress against their own specific game.

always thought if DP folded into Spooky that it would be the dream team of small manufacturer. DP as the design house and spooky for business management / manufacturing.

IMHO TBL is a better game than what spooky has put out (sans TNA but that's not trying to match bally/williams style)

they told me they needed to print more plastics so there would be delay on shipment. larger demand than they expected.

dupe

nope

the posts of late have been a great reminder of why the private thread is useful

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signal to noise ratio a lot better over there

sounds like something broke on the game in question or pitched weird. the ball should not make any contact with the pins on a fully functioning game.

nope

yeah, it is a timing thing not a contact thing. if someone has 3 broken ones, i can imagine the pins were deactivated but the ball was not.. so people kept launching balls against broken mech.

which could happen on route or something, so in that sense its a useful thing to have spares of. i can't imagine someone in their home who knows better is going to going to do that regularly.

if its happening that the ball is running faster than the computer thinks and hits a pin, i'd be looking for ways to slow the ball down a hair. i'd first adjust level of the game.. a steeper playfield makes a less steep bowling alley to see how far you are out. if the game is too steep before the timing corrects then I'd look into how i could shim rhe bowling alley independent of cabinet.

of course, you can go too far the other way and it kind of spoils the effect where the pins are going up so early that it is very noticeable and spoils the effect

correct. i will go get photos since people may be curious and my memory not perfect but i think there is an IR beam the ball breaks that starts the clock. the 'which pins should go down' is predetermined based on the direction the launcher is facing. all in all, its pretty convincing given nothing is actually tied to ball hitting anything.

im talking a hypothetical scenario where for whatever reason the ball is 'beating' the pre programmed timing.. getting to the pin before it is pulled up. the timing is pretty tight, to casual observer they may not notice the pin is already moving prior to ball striking it.

ARA would have to negotiate a deal with universal before they could do anything but destroy those games. let's see how it plays out, sounds like will know more soon enough.

yeah you don't really need a tool. it's a linux box, if you attach keyboard/mouse to it can escape out of the game. then you have Ubuntu desktop and can go poke around the folders.

got one from my wife

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nice, was starting to think i might want to sell mine to them here at some point so the public can see it but glad someone else did does it have my 3d printed bracket to better align the ramp and back scoop? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1786982 could bring one sunday if someone is interested

haven't had issues, so others may have to chime in on that. the important computer bits are multimorphic boards, linux PC. they sold replacement plastic sets. ive seen more complaints about the bowling alley than anything else, but worked out after all the initial troubleshooting.

pinball mechs are williams parts. the lens over the lower playfield is a CFTBL modified slightly / replaceable.

its easy to do whenever, no rush. the slot slides over the tongue of the scoop (top) on the dude ramp and just squeezes the clear ramp in a bit more funnel like way. i was getting rejects where the ball hit the sides of the scoop

installation video

check my math but 20% of fully paid pre-order games shipped? (40/200) it sucksfor a lot of folks, a total failure as a business... but not an outright scam either.

unlike others, DP used a lot of off the shelf kit. the hardware (lights, solenoids, switches) controllers are multimorphic p3. the standard pinball parts are largely bally/williams. heck the lower playfield window is the CFTBL window. so, actually.. i feel you have a better shot of maintaining these than some others.

i wonder if all this could fall apart during the inspection.. what if ARA didn't store the games climate controlled for the last 3 years as they were pissed and just moved them to where was convient/didnt cost them even more money. so, its very good they are getting inspected.. but also we'll see i guess too

the problem with that is the EAs predated cointaker even being involved with dutch pinball. why would cointaker want to take on burden of dealing with the folks that they never took any money from or had as a customer. the beef should be with Dutch for not holding any back or offering EAs the chance prior to handing allotments to cointaker

maybe they could think of making a pro model that moves the bowling modes to video modes. i do agree.. as cool as it is, it doesnt add much to the game.

wcbrandes had same problem, not sure of resolution but would ask him