“Questionable” on new orders in 2022 doesn’t sound great - DP still has a long ways to go to make all the OG preorders whole, and they need to keep selling games to make that happen.

When you say OG pre-orders, not sure what you mean? Original purchasers back in 2014 (or whenever the first run was done?) I know of folks in this thread who ordered between 2 to 1 year ago and their orders have been fulfilled.

If I were to guess, I think the response may be more to do with how long they will be manufactured, due to licensing.

Sorry, right, I meant original purchasers from 5+ years back. I’m not under the impression those will all be covered anytime soon, and unless there’s been a change in the finances they will still require 3 new sales per original purchaser.

That will never happen.

I was told that the license extended beyond 500. I placed an order about 2 weeks ago.

They will keep making them if we keep ordering them. Licensing can be worked out - it has many times already.

License is extended till end 2022 and even if orderbanks were to be closed backlog reaches (far) into 2022. TBL is in strong demand.

Spoke with Melissa at Allentown. She felt confident I’ll be in the second to next batch coming over. I ordered with deposit November 2020. Basically a year turnaround at this point. I know this is only an estimate and things change but it’s encouraging for sure. Hopefully theres no more parts or shipping delays.

I'm in your boat having paid my deposit in early November of last year. Hope that is true

My deposit was October 2020. Spoke with her there yesterday and got the “should be 60 days” answer. We shall see.

I should be in the same batch, deposit end of November.

I do not agree with this.

New code Dudes!

This is awesome news! Really looking forward to getting mine.

Rensh - When can we expect production to ramp back up? How long is the holiday and I'm assuming you are also waiting to ensure you've resolved the PROC board issues.

Thanks!

For the current batch first the Proc issues need to be solved. Than I foresee for the near future still not up to full capacity. Supplier issues .

Is it not part A than it is part B or C

Each time you solve an issue you think now we can go full steam ahead and than another issue pops up. No, being a manufacturer in these days is a real challenge I can assure you.

But we are doing our best.

Just keep on keeping on.

Rumor has it that they will most likely close the order window towards the end of the year as DP wants to move on to their 2nd game, but that’s just like what someone told me man.

Even though I'm not an EA, I've been following this whole ordeal since the start and I have been very optimistic that this will happen for the last few months, even before I got mine. This was after years of repeated disappointments that made me think the EAs would never be made whole. But I honestly think Barry is going to make this happen and DP will come out as a successful and well-regarded boutique pinball manufacturer. Do your part and order a game; help the EAs out.

What’s DPs next game ?

My little pony

Is there any information on how many have been ordered or how many would be made? Is it just that they will make as many as they can until the license runs out?

As many as they can, not a limited version.

And yes, ofcourse it will stop one day when a new model, my little pony, starts production. Or they go from 1 to 2 lines.

And I can understand that after producing TBL for a longer time a new challenge for the mind would be refreshing. And who doesn’t want a My little Pony after all ??

When are the EA will get their game? They ate waiting for years…

The official word is that every 4th game is going to an EA. We've had several EAs on here show pics of receiving their game over the past year.

I was one of those EA's (#59) - last October. Unfortunately, as Rens has acknowledged, games have not been going out to EA's at the previously targeted rate of 1 in every four and most are still in limbo regarding when they will get their TBL.

Ouch, that sucks. Why would they be planning on the next game then? Hopefully not to fund TBL...

At the rate they are going, they will be making these for years to

is it 3 new to 1 EA. It looks like it has been 25 new to 1 ea lately.

so does that mean the last achiever game went out 10 months ago?

Fair question, I thought they announced back in 2020 that they’d hit the “1 EA for every 3 new money TBLs” target and planned to maintain or even improve on it going forward. But maybe that’s no longer the case.

EDIT: Here’s an Oct 2020 post from Rensh discussing the ratio (but maybe he revised this in a later post?): https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-big-lebowski-preorder-club/page/244#post-5890405

No - there have been a few other EA games delivered after mine that have been mentioned in the Pinside threads.

Has not been the case unfortunately.

It is true that by far the number of EAs hasn’t be reached as hoped for months ago when the 3 to 1 ratio was announced.

Quite frustrating that everything finally is in place, funds for parts, trained personnel, space and that just shortage on part supplies is just killing the production . Can’t imagine how a juggernaut like stern must be suffering.

Anyway, pleased to let you guys know that another two EA are ready, 66 and 68. Owners have been informed and needless to say they are happy dudes .

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I'm happy to be getting a game and all, but a HUGE reason I put down a deposit is because I wanted to help EAs get thiers.

It's awesome to see the old orders being filled. I'll celebrate the day that happens.

Very cool - thanks to you and all that have purchased TBLs and enabled DP to keep going!

In the words of The Dude himself: "Fuckin' A Man!"

What’s typically the time between new shipments landing in the states? Every six weeks?

Rensh Have the Proc issues been figured out or are new games still on hold until that is resolved?

Units are shipped and in fact a shipment is on its way to CT.

Used is a different batch Proc, factory had also different issues with that batch Proc, but with 1 user for sure it isn’t the Proc as a replacement didn’t do the trick. We are working with him to see what it is. With a first user it was however solved with swapping Proc. So score is 1-1

Soulrider is doing the swap this weekend and than we will know more.

For those having the ticking issue, remove the connector on the Ps in the backbox in the red circle on attached picture. This will disable the safety circuit. Pls note : if you than open the coindoor the 12 and 48V will stay on the playfield. Be careful !! This is temp solution only.

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Rensh Thanks for keeping us up to date on the temporary fix for the ticking issue. I unplugged mine as per instructed by the Dude. Have a great weekend. Tim

Luckily there’s one on-site near me to tide me over till mine comes.

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Mine would have been 56, and apparently that finally went out to someone about a year ago…so you’re doing like 10 EA’s a year? A friend of mine is like 170…he’ll be dead before that game gets made…he’s asked for a refund and been denied. At this point, since new people are ordering in decent numbers - isn’t it about time you refund people who still want out? Doesn't it make more sense to give back $8500 when you can now sell a game for $12500?

All about cash flow.
Think if 50 EA people wanted to cash out?

So give 1 EA a refund per 5 or 10 or 50 games made. Cheaper than making one EA game (maybe). A lot of people praise DP for their customer service but what has been done and currently done to the EA's is not impressive service. I say this as a hopeful owner and excited for DP to do great things both with future code updates and future titles.

I am a "late buyer" and I hope that all EA get their game soon !!!
So far is a lack in the supply chain (as in many european industries) but if parts are available with the new factory hall and the higher output it should be possible to reach a fair quote !
Looking forward for this, so far several EA got a game and I guess that DP will stay in business , so they will be measured also on the delivery to EA´s !

So 2 or more people paid for the same game?

Sorry mate, I got your game, I feel bad!

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Don’t feel bad. I wanted out & got out. Feel bad for those who have to wait another decade or two.

It's cheaper for them to give you a game than it is to give you $8500. I'm pretty sure the game costs them 5k-6k max to make and ship.

They can't make all the EAs at once or else they'll run out of money since no new money would be coming in.

And they already have a backlog of games in the queue, so giving a refund, keeping the game and selling to someone else would be pointless at a financial standpoint.

SOLUTION?: I wonder if they could give EAs an option, especially those 100+ range to pay the difference (12500 - 8500, so pay $4000) and get your game asap. I get that it would suck to pay extra on top of what you've already paid and for as long as you've already waited, but the game is worth more than that anyway, so it's not like it'd be at a loss for the buyer, and there would be no more waiting either.

I'm spit-balling here and I'm not married to the idea, but I'd like to see everyone get their game. I don't know what the hurdles are, but I'm sure there are solutions that could be in the middle ground for everyone involved. If I was an EA at this point, I'd absolutely pay more to get my game ASAP and be done with it, but only because I know I'd be getting a game worth more than what I put into it in return AND I wouldn't have to wait anymore, so it wouldn't hurt me too much.

Maybe dp could throw in a little extra for these people too. Alternate translite? Topper? Something extra as a "meeting you halfway" type of thing.

How many EAs will there be?

I asked them (DP) this very same question two years ago, but never got an answer.
So, seems like we just sit back and see what the future brings...

Paying the difference doesn’t make sense cause your bumping in line slowing the new cash coming in.

Why did they Skip #67???

And when is the long awaited 69 Dude???

#67 was the chief of police in Malibu. A real reactionary.