Hold the show here folks, hold the hell on and stop. What the hell is going on?

The people that want "evidence" or are happy that Jaap is dying of cancer is some of the worst things I have ever seen in pinball or on this forum. It's a new low that Pinside Petey can't even do. It's something you would find on somethingawful.com or 4chan. You should be ashamed....I can't even believe what I am seeing. I have no stake at all in this nor do I understand what Jaap posts in Dutch on his Facebook but I remember Jaap in person at Pintastic a couple of year's ago. He was a a funny, warm, and personable gentleman. He asked me if "I wanted to play a game with him" and I wanted to play BoP 2.0 in front of us. He said "he had one at home and it was his first game he bought". I never recorded his seminar because my SD card's were full but I regret it. It's a wonderful game BoP 2.0 and TBL is one of the best games ever made, hands down.

Look I understand that people are angry and I would be too (hell I put down only $135 on the Stern pinball book) and you folks under incredible odds may be getting your games. Take a step back though and read what you are saying. Would you feel uncomfortable if a family or friend read what you posted?

I have no skin in this game but it sounds to me like the early achievers are getting screwed.

...but you’re confirming that the hostage numbered ARA games, that belong to early buyers, will be the games now sold? How many of those units are confirmed to be completed at ARA?

Nah, the worst thing was Jaap taking our money & then blowing it on other things, then lying to us and going silent. He’s no longer a friend. Why SHOULD anyone take this cancer claim a face value? He’s lied and screwed hundreds of people here. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. Take your “shaming BS” elsewhere. YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT.

Glad to see Cointaker post something on the subject.

Would love to know if CT is an investor in DP now and/or if they have heard something from Barry that gives them an indication that this new development has legs.

Hate to say this because I don't care for the guy, but Kaneda was right?

They’ve been getting screwed for 5 years. If their numbered games are going to be sold off to other people, that’s an extra spiked strap-on for their ass.

“Kaneda Was Right” should be his next T-shirt.

It would be damn difficult watching someone else post a unboxing video of "your" hostage game on Pinside. That you've been waiting years for. But, I guess if that's the only way to get things moving again...

The games are confirmed to be at ARA and we are getting a total of 40 games...

Excuse me

Iceman was right

He told Kaneda

Along with Alien coming and all you naysayer MF ers will have to eat shit

Well luckily there’s only one person who said anything of the sort. So while I agree with you that comment wasn’t necessary or helpful, you can relax — the commentary here has (appropriately) been focused on the pertinent issues.

We are NOT an investor in DP and yes, I've spoken to Barry and this is legit.

Awesome either way.

Man, I should have made the offer to buy someone's spot out a few weeks ago, when it was a topic of conversation. I didn't think there was any chance we'd see movement on this, so quickly, relatively speaking, after the court stuff.

It's actually an adaptation of a late 70s Blier film called Going Places, but with Jesus Quintana mixed in. On top of that, John Turturro created Jesus Quintana long before the Big Lebowski. No clue if he was a bowler, but the Coens like the character so much they mixed him into what became the venerable BL. From the page you listed it will not be a Coen-brothers film, and not a sequel.

Back to the exploding thread in progress.

Would you be willing to purchase my pre-paid TBL for $10,000? That would be an easy $2500 for you guys, right?

What about deposits with Nitro? Is Nitro getting any of these new games?

QSS

So that will be approx games #’d 54-94 (give or take a few numbers that shipped out of order). How is that right for people who bought those games & have receipts for them?

This just feels really dirty. Like a first come first serve blowout so ARA & Barry can get square. Very little hope that those who are owed those games will ever get anything.

Shame on anyone rushing to throw $12,500 to buy a game that doesn’t belong to you.

I kinda hope something else goes wrong and you lose it...may the games sink in transit.

I think this is the lowest I’ve seen this hobby go. Shame shame shame.

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Focus on who you shame. DP, ARA I get it.

New buyers that want to buy one owe nothing or have zero stake in this to existing buyers. Not the new buyers fault. No shame in getting some more TBL games out in circulation.

Sounds like original people that went through Cointaker will get money off of the 12.5k. Everyone else will have to dump 12.5k into it (new or original buyers).

It’s not. DP has commitments... they have failed to deliver no doubt. But the same thing could have happened before (and has with other companies too).

It sucks for EAs... but it’s the reality of buying into a company making a bunch of promises instead of goods on hand. You are at their mercy... and there is little room for moral high ground in these sink or swim kind of situations.

Dp showed years ago that making EAs whole was not priority one. This is not a shock anymore...

I think of people who sign up to buy a Stern LE before it is released, before they ever play it. Munsters LE frenzy, gamble. Except you know you will get a game.

Oh shit - wait- that was me!!!!

Anyone getting a game and consider selling it ! Let me know
Thanks

Call Cointaker to purchase one.

The people that had deposits in with us will pay the same price of 12,500 or they will not get one.
Not our doing, but in order to get the games, this is the cost.

Once these 40 are gone, they're gone. No way in hell any new one's will ever be made. It takes a lot of capital to set up manufacturing and tooling.....DP has no CAPITAL. This is a quick way to get semi whole with ARA and they're out. They tell people a good story about setting up manufacturing in China but it will never come to fruition. Why would Cointaker want to attach their good name to this train wreck for a slight bump in profit. Let's say they make $1500 off each game, so $60,000 and down the road when the train wreck happens and NO more are made.

So people put in a deposit at a lower price point and are now being told to pay more or they don't get a game?

I'm starting to think shame on cointaker...

That’s the way I read it.

Remember this is not Cointaker, this is DP’s price.

I believe Cointaker is trying to help - however - people might unfortunately point at them.

For everyone complaining about the price, if you want this game, now is the time to get it. Pinball pockets are deep in this hobby and these games will sell out by the weekend if not earlier....

It's A or B dude. Get it?

Yeah that's right, be thankful you have SOMETHING after all this time.

100% of NOTHING is what?...................NOTHING

If you’ve got the cash and you want one, looks like it’s now or never. Still, lots of uncertainty and maybe after years of getting screwed, people will be extremely skeptical and cautious.

Unfortunately that price is no longer offered to us. Our prices have increased immensely as well. No one is happy about this entire situation.
Either we pay the price they are requiring or the games go over to the European market,

I will absolutely shame anyone who buys these. You know they belong to someone else. It’s buying “hot” goods. That’s unethical. It’s taking glee in “I got mine” knowing someone else is being hurt. If you’re that type of person, I only wish pain for you.

That’s only if you believe this new story from known liars. My take: This is happening so Barry & ARA can call it square. After these games are gone, DP will officially cease to exist, you’ll never hear from Barry again or see any more TBL.

That’s only if you believe this new story from known liars. My take: This is happening so Barry & ARA can call it square. After these games are gone, DP will officially cease to exist, you’ll never hear from Barry again or see any more TBL.

Unfortunately I think you hit the nail on the head.

You can think shame on CoinTaker, but it was we bring the games to the US and offer to people who want them or they go overseas.
We are not making a huge profit on this in anyway shape or form. We are simply trying to offer customers who want this title the option to purchase
and are hoping that Barry can find an investor and get this back up and running...By the way, I am one of the EA holders as well and have even purchased
some of the EA's place in line and I am not keeping any of these games for myself. I am out the funds as well if this never takes off for several spots.

Every single one of those deep pocketed people are scumbag trash people. Please let yourselves be known so I can spit on you if we’re ever to cross paths.

Shame.

What is the plan past the current 40-50 games currently being held?

Tell us how you really feel

Sounds a bit judgmental. I learn every Sunday it is not my place to pass judgement. Not that it is working 100%

I think they are hoping to get an investor and start production again, at least I would hope that is the plan.

Hey I'm just telling you what I know will happen. I certainly wouldn't spend that amount for TBL but as soon as this news starts to get widely known, those games are gone.

And for the record pointing fingers at Cointaker is ridiculous. They're bringing this game over here so someone can have the opp to buy otherwise there is nothing.

They did this with alien as well - ONLY distributor to deal with that nonsense and give people like me the opp to have one. Their top tier in my book.

There aren't any more being currently held.

They need to get these future games "produced" after this batch goes out the door via the settlement.

It's pretty simple and common sense.

NOBODY is paying any deposits. If you want a game in the future then somebody is going to make it and you can buy it.

Will it get built? Who knows.

delt31 you know you can’t pass this up. Pull the trigger man!

I hope I am still on that list from the last time it was rumored and we spoke. I would still like to be one of the 40. Give me a call in the AM, I also sent you an email. Thanks!
-Sean G

So hopefully these machines get some legs and the code can be updated. If so these machines will be pretty valuable. Good look everyone who gets one

I think it is a safe bet / gamble. Even if they found an investor, the price point would still be 12.5k because these 40 will sell quickly.