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Very funny, you pay hell lot of money for "moddings" but the seller do not offer a compatible cable to connect.
With my TBL Topper from BigLebowski came a perfect y-adapter. And he is not a pro selling expensive mods to the communty.

What sould I tell you ?! Buy a crimptool and some plugs and crim what you need. Cut of the small plugs and make the mods compatible. Or solder them diectly to the wire. I would send the mods back and ask them to make them plug and play. Making hell lot of money out of nothing, selling 3D prints for helllot of money but do not support theit products ?!

Thank you TomDK I agree with what you are saying but I cannot find the exact type of Y-cable needed with the right connectors. So my guess is no one makes one. I don't even know the names of the connectors I need, that's why I posted pictures and asked for links to buy what I need. The Y-cable I posted a photo of already splits out 5V and 12V (https://imgproxy.pinside.com/25_ZRLPRwu5hgZptMrJsLpCtSoMQYQTcpNgb8YPh9IM/rs:fit:2048:2048/q:70/aHR0cHM6Ly9vLnBpbnNpZGUuY29tL2MvNTEvOTkvYzUxOTk3YzZhOGFjOTgwNDFjZWQxNTI0ZGI0MWVlNWZhYjYyNDM3Ny5qcGc) outputs to 2 x 4-pin/4 wires/connectors that the TBL doesn't use. So how do I take that Y-cable and connect from the TBL power supply to the 5V needs of one of the small 2-pin connectors and the 12V to the other small 2-pin connector from the mods I have? (the second photo I posted https://imgproxy.pinside.com/4QEPMg1C-HHE_V7pLMlSXyerkB3qm8M5QnmepGAWWAQ/rs:fit:2048:2048/q:70/aHR0cHM6Ly9vLnBpbnNpZGUuY29tLzIvZGEvNTMvMmRhNTM4NDQ5MGMwNGMxN2QyNGI5OWMyMjdiMDU3MWZlZjY4YTliMS5qcGc) Do I simply only use the red and black wires?

I have ordered parts and I am in the process of making harnesses for sale.

It will have 3 - 12v; 3 - 5v; and 1 - 3V (for spinning bowl sign coming soon).

So that’s 7 power connectors for under the playfield. You will be able to buy hook in connectors to ModCouple mods as well.

I should have proto by next weekend and be ready to sell after that.

Thats the way it should be ! Most new people to pinball are not able to solder and understand how a pinball works, so there is need for ready harnesses before this people try to solder on SMD pcb to get some power for modding.

Apparently some people don't understand how forums work either and just post their opinions and assumptions about people's intelligence instead of actually answering questions from the community.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. But a little with skills and the time I am willing to invest in the hobby.
It seems that my comments helped at leat that one of the mod sellers will make the needet harness/Y-adapter. On the older pins it is no problem to "grab" a needet power from any source in the machine, solder 2 cables and it works fine. On all the new machines you can not do so. Nodeboards from Spike and Spike2 f.eks. dont like differences in voltage. Same on TBL. You can not solder 2 wires to a smd rgb led to get some power for mods. Therefor the mod producer have to offer plug and play on this machines. It is also not DP warranty to cover failed installations of mods.
The connector for the apron f.eks. delivers all needet powers. If you are able to figure out what is on which pin, you can use it but I would never ever giving in the forums a tip how to use this plug. Specially not to people with no experience in crimping a cable.

To anser your question, this is how a Y-cable can look like. This cable came with the TBL topper from @biglebowski.

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Thank you very much, TomDK . This is the information I was hoping for. I am experienced in soldering and somewhat good with a multimeter but when it comes to electronics power or crimping my own cables, I am still learning. This type of information helps that learning process. Yes your earlier comments helped influence an experienced modder to start on creating a harness, which I will wait for while I learn to be more self sufficient in this area, so thank you!

BigLebowski That topper looks awesome, can it be purchased in the U.S.? I've only seen the Gutter balls one but prefer yours. Apologies if there's already an earlier post with a link to it. If you have a link to where to buy it, that would be great!

For all those looking for a power splitter.

Pinball life is carrying this in their product line:

https://www.pinballlife.com/power-tap-for-atx-power-supply-games.html

You can contact BigLebowski for this great (and cheap ... versus Stern-Topper) topper.
He also ships to the US and has a manual in english ... and of course ... a Y-connector

Today an other TBL owner visited me and we spoke about mods for the TBL, he told me that all his mods from the USA came plug and play with connectors.

My game has only a handful of plays on it. Right flipper was working fine, now it raises and drops right back down, even if you hold the button. Went to look at the EOS switch and it is nonexistent. What's up with that? Any ideas how to correct this?

Thanks

Yes that's the one I bought and asked about earlier in this thread because I'm completely puzzled as how to leverage it.

you can't - wrong connector types

Box the machine back up and send it to me

There should be little circuit board there instead of typical EOS for the flipper which makes and breaks.
Are you asking where you can get one of those?

https://www.pinballlife.com/fliptronics-type-2-opto-board-replacement.html

However, this might be a coil issue .... OR....

RENS - can commit - I think there was a miss wiring that caused weak flippers.
(maybe search this thread of the fix it thread for tbl).

Wooo Hooo!! check out what just arrived. I've got a project tomorrow

TBL Starry Lit Apron
Woo Hoo!

There is no EOS switch on TBL.

Sounds like a hold issue. Can you swap the connectors on the main pcb so left flipper is activated with right button and vice versa? If the problem remains at right flipper we know it’s something with the coil assy. Pls check wiring for something loose.

Which serialnumber do you have?

Please check my pictures, the y-adapter from the link to PinballLife has 4 pins only and it is "round". My adapter looks different !

Thanks Rensh I will try this. I think my serial number is 488.

I might be crazy, but after doing the code update on my machine the behavior of multi-ball has changed. With two characters ready, I still only get a 2 ball multi-ball, but in the past it was 3 ball multi-ball ( ball in play +1 ball for each character). Am I crazy?

Cant remember the old days ... fact is with 2 charactzers only 2 ball multiball. I can , maybe, maybe, also remeber that it was 1 ball per character.
Easy to test .. load in the menu an older software and play ...

Yup. You are crazy

As answered already per mail this morning it’s 1 ball per character with only exception being that 1 character multiball has 2 balls.

Rensh

When I flipped the coil connectors on the board, the problem switched to the left flipper. Is my coil bad?

Thanks

So

Left button left coil working
Right button right coil not working

Left button right coil not working
Right button left coil working

Assuming the wires are correct connected to the coil my conclusion is coil is defective.

Yes, your scenario is correct. The right flipper worked about 10 games then started doing this. Should I work this through Cointaker?

CT being ‘local’ and knowing this is a standard BW coil I think that’s the easiest and fastest way.

Note: in case you get a standard BW coil this likely has a diode. Don’t forget to remove the diode !!

Hey folks - my pin is on order w/CT - looking forward to it.

I had a random thought / question - during gameplay - or other - is there a quote from the movie that goes "Who the F are the K-Nudesons???" Its one of the most random lines in the movies but its one of my favorites.

Thanks,

Its not a random line in the movie. The Knutson's paid Da Fino (the private eye) to find their daughter Fawn (who goes by Bunny Lebowski which is Mr Lebowskis wife). Fawn ran away from Minnesota and made porno movies, racked up big debt and somewhere along the way married Mr Lebowski.
The dude knows her as Bunny not Fawn Knutson so that's why he inquired in typical Dude eloquence. Anyway .. carry on!

Bunny is not the issue man....And you forgot the influence of Carl Hungus - just wondering if the quote comes up?

Logjammin’?

I'm losing my mind over the issue after issue with my NIB TBL I received less than a month ago. Can anyone who follows this owner's thread please look at this post and the related ones in the maintenance thread? I seem to be having issues that no one has ever reported before and really need some expert help. Thank you. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/a-lotta-ins-a-lotta-outs-tbl-maintenance-thread/page/12#post-6283770

What does this mean?

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This means that the switch named MENU/ÖUS RIGHT was for 30 games not in action which brings up this message.
Same will happen to the tilt blomp ....

Ignore it or use this switch 1 time ...
Its a bug that also this kind of switches are listes/checked from the system.

So dont worrie ... doenst mean anything !

The spinner switch will occasionally show up as well.

Starry lit apron beauty, thanks Barry!

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Wondering when you ordered this? I did about 3 weeks ago…still awaiting arrival dude.

It’ll get there

Just as a follow up on the apron, I got mine today and it works like a charm! So no 12V issue after all. That scratches one more concern off the list! Thanks you guys for all your input on this.

Hey dudes, I might be late to the party but does anybody have any ideas in regards to this? Am I buying a USB keyboard to get this to go away?

Haven’t played the game in about a month and haven’t touched anything it seems like it has a mind of its own and this is what I get when I play tonight. New shit has come to light: Rensh

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How to deal with this is posted in this thread.

I haven't run into this but could only find steps from ubuntu experts themselves: https://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-system-program-problem-detected-ubuntu/

Is there a post in this thread that gives options besides having someone plug in a keyboard and dig into the system? Seems like there should be an in game resolution for this.

I know how to search, just wondering if anyone had a quick solution. What post number roughly?

This would be handy! Not super familiar with Linux or entering commands I’m out of my element!

Search for this in the thread

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Made a FAQ on this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/va6ipxwx7x8mt4s/System%20error%20pop-up%20FAQ.pdf?dl=0

I have gathered all my FAQ’s in 1 document 128 pages which I expect to release this weekend. So than it will be one link always containing all info-knowledge I have.

Very helpful thank you very much for this I’ll give it a go later today.

Does anyone know if it is possible to add light up flipper buttons? Specifically if any of the brite-button versions would work?

Next dumb question…What USB port can I use for the keyboard?

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