Seawitch is a great game so not sure why this won't be.

I'll take five of 'em!

I do kind of agree with this. I guess Seawitch matches the "modern" style /speed of play out of the most of them.

Who wants to guess pricing?

I'm thinking in the Batman vein

8000
9500
12500

I'm also thinking most of these end up in Beatles' collectors homes.

Looks like there's a target behind the lower left bank of drops.

Wonder if there's anything else back there.

I know this is completely irrelevant but I cannot believe you didn't mention JJP or "toys" in this post.

It won't be long!

LOL there's no goddamn way.

I don't know man. I think the game will be fun. Seawitch rules. I bet this will have some things in it you can't recognize from the video, maybe a multiball.

But it's very "Supreme," an overpriced game destined to be loathed here for all times and also sell out. Those of you who don't think these will be gone are nuts - it's not for "us."

And much like Supreme, I bet I'll get to play it because Sunshine in Brooklyn buys everything. The rest of you guys...well I hope you are friends with some deep-pocketed Beatles fanatics.

Some of you guys may have forgotten...even in 2018...the BEatles are bigger than Jesus.

Yeah you just missed it, the rest of us clearly saw the LCD screen.

good eye.

Either a magnet lock or a lock hole behind a drop target bank. I bet an actual physical lock like Supreme.

I bet that's also a ball lock like lil deadpool / supreme.

Interesting discussion...I'd guess it DID save a little time and we all know time is money. But yes the whole thing had to be redone basically.

We went over this with Supreme.

If this sells out, why would anybody be embarrassed for Stern?

People need to get used to the idea that they have a business plan now that apparently includes selling games to "us" and selling expensive boutique games to "them."

Their ultimate goal is to make profits. If they can do that by selling Deadpools to us yahoos and Beatles to my parents, that's a successful, positive business plan.

As usual, people here need to not take this stuff personally. I don't take it as a personal affront to my pride and dignity when McDonald's pulls the McRib off the menu. You shouldn't take it personally when they make and sell a game you don't like.

No, I'm comparing the rollout, business plan, and pinside reaction.

And don't forget, Supreme was a huge success for Stern.

I don't care. And neither does Stern.

If the project is a success, the butthurt moans of pinside are completely irrelevant. You'd think by now people would understand that.

I'm betting the project will be a success.

$90,000.

I think Stern learned a long time ago there's no harm in letting others "win" pinball shows.

Why take the abuse? Absolutely zero upside for Stern to show this game at Expo.

I pulled the exact same act during the Supreme rollout when you idiots were all melting down over that.

And the Dark Night for Stern doozy.

Let me know when I actually turn out to be wrong.

The limited editions did yes, with little trouble at all.

Either that or it was the huge disaster pinside predicted it would be and stern went under.

I forget which. Memory isn’t what it used to be.

Steve always said it sold really
Well and he loved the royalties he got from it.

You don’t see em much because they are all in home collections. Which is what’s going to happen here.

Iron Maiden has 6 song modes but there’s more songs in the game.

Fact is we don’t know how it plays yet. At all. There’s a shit ton we don’t know about the game.

Fact is, nobody really cares. It could be a killer game to play, it’s not gonna affect anybody’s opinions much.

These uninformed clusterfuck monkey piles are cathartic for pinside and they have to happen every now and then.

See the JJP pirates production thread, or pretty much any stern reveal...

The Beatles are bigger than Jesus.

I think you are dead wrong.

(Also they’ll sell plenty to pinsiders)

You are correct. These teaser trailers tend to be awful (remember the Star Wars one?).

You just told us you want to fuck a pinball machine (congrats! You are like the 9000th guy to make this hilarious and witty statement about a game needing to fuck you to be worth the money) and I'm trolling?

1- we don't agree, people been saying that for 20 years and it's bullshit
2 - the target, like beyond obviously, is well-heeled Beatles fans (retired or otherwise), of which there are millions.

Weird to see you playing dumb on this.

Who knows if this is even going through distributors. Supreme didn't.

As far as I can tell it'll be sold through the Beatles Store.

Pinside needs to come to grips with reality.

The reality of the pinball market possibly being beyond pinside is what thousands of people here refuse to accept.

You'd think after Supreme people would have figured this out. But you'd be wrong.

We don't even know the prices yet bro. Let's relax for a minute.

I think if this turns out to be true, it's a huge game-changer on the perception and reception of this game, and you'd see PLENTY in Pinside collections and even on location.

I guess we'll find out November 6 and can adjust our outrage accordingly?

Supreme sold a couple hundred $10,000 pinball machines in 10 seconds with this model.

Next rhetorical question please.

Why? We've seen plenty of Batman 66 games on location, and that one was a pro or Premium (depends on your outlook) for beyond LE money. The cheapest Batman is $8500!

Now you are moving the goal posts. Stern doesn't give a shit what these games sell for in 20 years, just if they sell now.

Like Supreme did.

Because it isn't the Beatles?

Beatles is gonna kill in coin drop and getting players' attention. People will go to a location just to check it out and play it.

LOL good call

So kinda like Spiderman Vault Edition then. Which was, quite clearly, a vault edition.

Clearly, Beatles proves that Stern considers re-releasing and updating classic designs is a viable option in the future.

Should make many people here happy! Please head over to my All You Need is Love thread for more discussion on these exciting possibilities!

STAR WARS SOLD

So many terrible analogies in this thread.

You've been on point with all your Beatles info so that's good news.

Ben's been through a lot.

Dude worked with JPop for Christ's sake.

that's not true at all. Real superfans are sick of the "hits" and would likely be intrigued by this setlist!

Just go to the Stones forum any tour and read post after post of people whining about hearing Brown Sugar again.

I personally didn't even know the song It Won't Be Long. And now I do! It's great!

True!

I'll just point out one more time that like many, many things about this game we don't actually know what songs will be in the game. Iron Maiden has 6 song modes but another 6 or so songs in the game that aren't written on the playfield.

I can feel the wind from his massive dick swinging around all the way over here in NY!

Man you guys are cheap and bad sons!

Obviously you should be buying mom a Beatles pin!!

This is MOM we are talking about here!!

(Thank god mine would be happier with a $60 box of Neuhaus chocolate, which I will happily import during my next trip to Belgium in June)

Jesus. A post starting by accusing me of too much BS followed by a 78,000 word salad That nobody - including me - is ever going to read.

Beatles is bringing out the irony. Someone else - who has posted 10,000 more times than I have in the same amount of time - also accused me of typing too much!

Quality over quantity folks!

Yeah for sure. Shilton - who singlehandedly aided and abbeted the heighway scam, and is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of dollars swindled out of the hands of pinsiders - really shouldn’t talk. You’d think he’d feel bad about that. Probably did, for like “two weeks.”

His relentless shilling has a real human cost. Mine has resulted in a few butthurt pinsiders. Which is worse?

But not sure if you’ve noticed, this is a new go to for tons of people here against tons of other people. Everyone accuses everyone else of shilling for everyone.

You won’t see me do it - I’ve got better material!

That’s not fair dude! You know Ozzy is a huge Beatles fan. So are tons of metal heads. I love the Beatles bro.

Anybody who says the Beatles aren’t loved by a broad swath of music fans demographically is either trolling or ignorant.

Silver slugger was actually designed for the ball to smack the glass on every launch, to simulate the crack of the bat.

Admittedly kind of a dumb idea. Ops freaked so the games were fitted with a
Cover at top of shooter lane so this didn’t happen.

A lull of interest?!

There's like 10 thriving threads on pinside for both.

I love when people say stuff like this.

"Hey is there a chance that everything we've seen and heard so far about this game turns out to be completely wrong and the game is actually radically different than the machine they've literally revealed and we've all seen with our naked eyes and processed with our brains and is in fact in real life going to be the exact game I imagined in my head????"

Uhhh...yeah sure, I guess there's always a chance! I will say I admire the fact that Pinsiders never give up hope. It's the kind of optimism we need in these dark times.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that everybody was sick of the Hitler videos five years ago?

Looks like indeed no coin door!

Or a coin door...with no mechs.

Great additional songs, three of their biggest megahits!

Song choices are good - 6 megahits and 2 deeper cuts that haven't been played to death.

Of course it does. Gonna be a great game to play.

Yes you are missing something, just like the 30 other people who asked that exact rhetorical question.

If you want a Beatles pinball machine - instead of the approximately 9 million other things on the planet you can spend $6k on - you’ll consider buying this Beatles pinball machine, even though - perhaps even BECAUSE - it’s not monster bash.

Ridiculous!!!

For 3500 bucks I can buy a beat up transformers or a super nice Centaur!!

Am I missing something??????

Ha that’s true!

So...happy everybody?

So, exactly the same as every other NIB pinball machine on the market.

It does help to look at it that way!

YOu can also just hold that flipper up on a full plunge and take out some drops.

And, you can use the top left flipper to shoot through the pops and knock down some of the top right drops.

I did it yesterday! Super fun.

I mean...it's not all or nothing.

You could just wait to play game on location, a show, or at a friend's place. The game doesn't have to be dead to you, like a cousin who welched on a loan!

I don't think anybody really wants to revisit anything about that project, which was not a success.

Maybe the contract job was for Pabst. Who knows if Pabst got rid of all of them.

They got Cousin Brucie? That's pretty awesome.

Much like Adam West, I sure hope they don't wait too long to get all those calls recorded!

So is pinside getting more hysterical or just dumber?

Tough to determine, but based upon the response to Tamoore's transparently sarcastic toss off post, I'm gonna go with a little of both.

I heard the gold edition will only contain one alphanumeric display and no LCD screen, and also won't have plastics over the slingshots!

"FOR $8000?!!? Stern is WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!"

This is outrageous!!!!

Are there no boundaries to this Beatles scam?!?!?!?!?!?

????

?

Nothing new in coin op. People always wonder how they managed to sell 5,000 Popeyes.

The fact that Williams was forcing distributors to buy it if they also wanted the latest Mortal Kombat had something to do with it.

The VOX amplifier speaker panels are so cool and a great touch!

Like put out multiple titles a year, on a timely basis, not steal anybody's money, and do all of this consistently while also offering the least expensive commercial-grade pinball machines on the market!!!

I still don't know how they do it.

Hey, Pinball is hard!

Stern just makes it look easy.

I believe I can out run Adrian Peterson in the 50 yard dash. Doesn't make it so unfortunately.

Ha I thought the same thing!

LMAO yeah...

all the comments I see are like "look how slow that old man is running!" while he outruns the entire Giants D. They did catch up at the end for a horse collar.

Apparently that's the longest TD run in the NFL by someone his age since Jim Thorpe did it in 1921. HOLY SHIT!

Oh yeah Beatles is gonna rule etc. etc. etc. It will be a markedly different playing experience than Seawitch, which is obvious to anybody who isn't just regurgitating the boilerplate from the reveal day posts.

Good angle. I like it!

Only if you point out 350 times your wife agrees with you.

LMAO

People do not like facts anymore.

Finally this thread is getting interesting!

So like, as I get older, does it really matter what I'm listening to? I can't imagine my ears can tell the difference between FLAC and a 320kb rip of a CD.

Generally, music sounds shittier than ever but I don't even notice. It's also more convinient than ever which I do notice.

I remember when we got a CD player in 1989 or so, and I was all "Mom, doesn't this sound amazing?!"

She said "all I care about is that I don't have to flip the record over anymore."

My guess is whatever it is we will all hate it.

Ideally there'd be clips from the movies, the Ed Sullivan show, news reel clips etc. but that seems like an awful lot of licensing hoops to jump through. So you are probably looking at something more in the Aerosmith vein.

So as usual, expect the worst, and if it isn't the worst, privately reflect on that with gratitude but still say you hate it.

There was an Ed Sullivan clip in the trailer so that seems promising.

I love how "distros making cold calls" is now supposed to be the benchmark of failure, when they did the exact same thing on the $15K Batman which of course sold out all 80 without breaking a sweat.

I love how the fact that distros who make a living selling pinball machines are trying to sell pinball machines is supposed to set off alarm bells.

I also love how the people who bang the "you are all shills!!!" drum louder and dumber than anybody else will type more bullshit than anybody else to further their own transparent and petty agenda.

There's so much to love around here!

You crack me up Iycman!

We do know that YOU aren't buying one either.

So why are you commenting on it? It's not allowed.

Even the bullshit is bigger in Texas.

We have morons in New York just like you do in Texas.

How they pronounce my name (Think "American Pie") is not my concern.

It sounds much better with a Texas Twang.

I don't pretend to know what's going on behind the scenes with the big-money collectors, but you just don't see Batman SLEs up for sale publicly. Hard to say what they are "worth" but seems like people are holding on to them.

It's not. The entire premise of Vid's - and others' argument - is that there's an entire market out there beyond Pinside. That's been said for what seems like weeks now.

Obviously, if you don't agree with that premise, you'll say it's obvious that the pinside list is the only obvious indicator.

but obviously, others will disagree with you.

Obviously, we are all going to have to wait and see.

I was surprised to see Batman 66 Premium is going for $7600. Was that always the street price? For some reason I thought it was initially around $8500.

I don't understand why people think polls and pinside lists are an "obvious" indicator of anything, besides what people who participate in polls and lists on pinside are doing or want people to think they are doing.

I would guess the majority of registered pinsiders participate in neither (I don't), and beyond that, all of the stuff Vid said.

Great song but wouldn't fit the era they are pushing with this game. Even Drive My Car is kind of anachronistic to be in this game.

It’s getting better all the time.

Also the things that they loved.

He was a monster!

You could probably get sonny Liston cheap.

Dude, he said it was “obvious.” That alone should make you reconsider.

Not sure why anybody would care about this.

Is Kapow's web site a popular source for pinball news and information? I didn't even think to wonder if Kapow had a web site.

Anybody interested in this product will be going to Stern or the Beatles.

People have plenty of legit things to question or criticize about this release but I think this might fall under the jurisdiction of “trying to hard too find things to complain about.”

Weird or not I doubt anybody besides you cares or even noticed.

Man the official release of this thing can’t come soon enough.

I wish more companies were releasing more games more often so we’d have more to talk about and less downtime.

And yet on KaPow.com or whatever...nothing! It’s so sad!!!!

For some reason.

There’s a lot of

“This food is terrible. And such small portions!!!”

As well.

Imagine there's no Pinside
It isn't hard to do
No whining about Kapow's website
And no color bombing too

Imagine all the pinheads
Not complaining about everything under the sun

Woo-hooo-ooo

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
Maybe some day, you'll join us
And you'll stop bitching, and have some fun

I got more!

Imagine there's no companies
It's easy if you try
no pointless competition
and only dream themes to buy

Imagine a "man I wish they'd make this game" thread
Without Stern vs. JJP

eeee-eeeee

yeah I beefed and was correcting, now I'll just give up!

Christ you guys are fast!

LMAO I wonder why. Probably doesn't have anything to do with the fact that pinside has pounced on this project like it's a seal with a propeller wound in a shark tank?

Hey did he address the biggest controversy of all about this project, his neglected website?

Screw it I'll find out myself and actually listen to a podcast for once. Sounds interesting.

He also says it has speech from all four beatles.

He also tells everybody to get a life and lighten up.

And he also employs a terrible cargument.

So pretty much what I expected. Thanks for the interview mates!

I'm not sure how you people want him to react. YOU make it personal. You troll these guys endlessly.

Look at your language. "struggling product" lol

Do you realize how dumb that looks? Every one of your posts about this is laced with nonsense like that.

Multiply it by about 100. You guys want a reaction. So you got one. And now THAT is an irritant?

Take Joe's advice. Lighten up.

It's indicative of Pinside. Which is what he's addressing.

You are so bad at this HIlton. If you are confused it's because logic isn't really your thing.

Not at all popular. Last Pop Culture census report puts the number of Beatles fans worldwide at only 1,964.

Thankfully, they are all rich and buy all Beatles product, so I think Stern will be ok.

Has it really come to this? Someone trying to convince us “the Beatles aren’t popular?”

Holy Christ. Tomorrow can’t come soon enough!

Stop saying “stones throw” in a Beatles thread!!!!

Also you realize paul is a Very old, very rich man, and books shows for when and where he wants to play, right?

Paul Fuckin’ McCartney could book 365 nights a year if he wanted to. Comparing him to touring acts half his age and half as famous is as silly as saying the Beatles aren’t still popular.

Like you say, try to keep it in perspective.

It's retro!

You know like making an 80s pin with 2010s technology for a game that's supposed to feel like it's from the 60s with drop target banks from the 70s!

I went to a cargument and a pinball discussion broke out!

Psshhhhh

You macho alphas just can't handle that I'm a master beta.

I like the gold one, looks great. Clearly that's not leftover WWE mustard stock. Cool sparkle on the apron as well. Game looks much nicer with these hi res pics (shocker!)

Although the Diamond one with authentic signatures by all four beatles looks great. Who knew Yoko could do a John Hancock?

Yeah you gotta pay extra for one, as per Kamikow! What do you think, 200 bucks maybe?

In his Aussie interview he said "it's an option. If you want one you'll get one, if you don't need one you won't get one."

Who knows...I took it to mean it's an "option." Guess we'll find out shortly.

If true that's really not bad.

But, as proven in every single MBr thread, Stern would do well to say it's $7300 since apparently nobody here counts shipping as part of the cost of a pinball machine.