Quoted from Gexchange:

I thought it did 90 Seconds of each song? Am I wrong?
JJ

Quoted from Gexchange:

I thought it did 90 Seconds of each song? Am I wrong?
JJ

Quoted from jamesdeloris:

No the songs are on 30 second timers I believe.

Quoted from cottonm4:

Most songs back then were only about 2 minutes, or 120 seconds, long. I agree with 30 second clips.

Quoted from pinmister:

I really like Beatles but I am beginning to doubt that I will ever be able to justify pricing. $7600 can buy me two decent used Sterns. Little voice in my head keeps saying-screw Beatles and get an Elvis back in the collection. I am sure it would be a great game for guest and newer pinball players, but I may get tired of just a single level game. Other voice in my head is saying if you want a single level game to add diversification to the collection-buy a TNA. Damn all these voices in my head.

Quoted from pinmister:

I really like Beatles but I am beginning to doubt that I will ever be able to justify pricing. $7600 can buy me two decent used Sterns. Little voice in my head keeps saying-screw Beatles and get an Elvis back in the collection. I am sure it would be a great game for guest and newer pinball players, but I may get tired of just a single level game. Other voice in my head is saying if you want a single level game to add diversification to the collection-buy a TNA. Damn all these voices in my head.

Quoted from Whysnow:

WARNING, tldr

my source is the same as ASOA... you just pull a WAG and post it up.
However, my WAG actually:
1. looks at the numbers claimed to be sold by distributors with us all knowing that many of them flat out lie to push sales and then looking at all the other information out there. Watching the behaviors over the past few months of these salesmen has been telling in its self as some become desperate to sell stock.
2. Takes everything that the sales team at Stern says with a grain of salt. It is their job to sell and they have been shown time and time again to lie (call it half truths if that makes you feel better, but they spew BS much of the time > not personal as it is just their jobs). Watch their decisions to delay MUN post holiday in an effort to push Beatles.
3. look at the number recorded on public sites and correlate that with other games and numbers after a similar amount of time.
4. watch the hype here on the #1 collector site anywhere. Hype is all but dead here aside from a handful of owners (rightfully excited as the game is fun) and the various distributors (both ones that are open about being distributors and the few that post anonymously here but are in fact sellers/resellers)
5. Call around and talk to distributors. They all have them for sale, they still have them for sale, and the prices have dropped. You dont drop a price in order to sell an item that is supposedly flying off the shelves.
It really does not take much common sense to come to this accurate conclusion. If these golds are selling like gangbusters, where the hell have they gone to, lol. Some mysterious pool of NIB pinball buyers?
ASOA's WAG is that he is a distributor without bias... Keep in mind he wont tell us any actual data like how many he bought, how many he has sold, what prices he sold his diamond and platinums for and now what the golds are selling/ not-selling for.

I actually love the Beatles. I think the game is super fun (I played the 2 they had in Chicago). I think the theme is great also (finally a band theme I like).
Dont misinterpret my despise for distributors on a collectors forum spewing BS and false hype as hate for the game or them personally. I just think it is important that there is a voice of reality to counter the salesman pitches from some on here with the constant hype train.
Passion for the hobby is not hate. I dont want to see any of my fellow hobbyists fall for the fake hype. Beatles is a fun game, but priced much too high and the sales mirror that conclusion.
A little reality for you on what numbers are public
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/stern-the-beatles/owners
58 Golds can be accounted for (both private and public).
Most will accept that Pinside represents 30-50% of the public pinball collector world in numbers of games. PInside seems to be more heavily US/ NA based in users, but still useful.
You can of course cross reference with pinball owners which tends to be more overseas and find 5 gold owners.
Some may say that Pinside is a small percentage. Reality is that public locations are well accounted for here and on pinball map (total of 49)
For a small comparative, go look at WWE which is well accepted as being the worst selling modern Stern. There are 76 locations (pinball map) and 33 private owners. That means WWE is 2x the seller that Beatles currently is. Distributors will argue that WWE has been out longer, but we all know that the majority of game sales for any title happen in the first bolus in the first month prior and month post release. We are 5! months post announcement and 3 months post sales. Ample time for them to get out there.
need another comparison? How about Mustang, the widely accepted 2nd worse selling modern Stern. 100 locations and 83 owners.
Just stop buying into the false distributor hype on this title.
The clear reality is that the game was overpriced and the sales reflect it. This went over like a lead balloon and keep your eyes wide open when someone in sales tells you they are not biased (lol)
Own the game already?, GREAT! have me over to play. The thing is a blast IMHO!
Thinking of buying the game? awesome! just please understand the difference of salesguy hype and the reality of how many are sitting in back stock.
I believe that Stern "sold out" for the first run to distributors. They marketed this great by forcing distributors to buy a 10 pack to get in on the first run. Sold them on the hype and many distros cashed in big on the Diamond and platinum sales.
I believe that Stern is running some more in Jan because there are surely some distributors with customers that want this game and those distributors did not buy in for the first run for the 10 pack.
The reality is that Stern sells on hype to distributors and they in turn sell on hype.
Stern does not care if distributors are stuck with stock on a 10 pack and that shows as they run more games for new distro orders instead of telling Distros to sell their back stock to each other.

Quoted from jfh:I can’t imagine Stern would ever allow a MAP reduction. Maybe “buy a gold and get $2k off another title”. Game play is surprisingly fun but the art package and animations remind me of a Saturday morning cartoon.
Hilton’s WAG above is reasonable and thought out. I have talked to a number of collectors I know where money is generally not an issue and that I expected would be in the target market including one Beatles super fan. Not one of them has played the game and they all said some variation of “it’s priced too high for what it is”.
I think Stern knew these were going to be a tough sell when they came up with the 10 pack distributor idea which essentially incentivized dealers to buy more golds than they otherwise would have been interested in.
The Beatles situation is sad because it may hamper further retro redesigns using the excuse they don’t sell well while not admitting that the failure was due to the pricing model and not the game itself.

Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

And WTF does WAG mean?!?

Quoted from cottonm4:

WTF = You already know this one

Quoted from bigd1979:

New code editions? I cant bring up.the readme file

Quoted from Riffbear:

All I can say about Beatles is....
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Quoted from LOTR_breath:

V1.10 - February 6, 2019
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- Added additional topper lamp effects.
- Added adjustments to allow each drop target bank to be disabled (rules will compensate)
- Added adjustment to allow more songs to play during mainplay. (default = NO)
- Mystery Award will choose "Add Time" once per timed song.
- Custom message is now displayed every pass through attract mode (was every 10 passes).
- Increased Extra Ball points award to 200,000 and Special points award to 400,000.
- Added flipper power adjustments for lower flippers.
- Upper flipper power was not persisting across game power cycle. This has been corrected.
- Slingshot power has been modified and the default slingshot power is now 20.
- Super Skill Shot and Super Duper Skill Shot values are now increased with each successful shot.
- Super Duper Skill audit was not being recorded correctly.
- Reduced the window where a jackpot shot via the left orbit will not score if a ball
is being auto-plunged as the result of a ball save or add-a-ball.
- Removed the Bonus X Extra Ball award. This was not a part of Sea Witch rules.
- Added new adjustment "LEFT OUTLANE COURTESY SAVE" (default: NO) which will activate a ball save
if a shot which hits the super jackpot target (behind FAB) results in a quick left outlane drain.
This is valid during single ball play only.
- Increased Secret Skill shot value to 75,000
- Added additional display messages for Beatlemania Multiball/Hard Days Night
- Added additional display messages when a song advances to the next scoring level
- Mystery: Increased Light Extra Ball award percentage slightly
- Mystery now progresses in a certain award order when in competition mode:
25K, ADV Bonus X, 2X POPS, 50K, 2X Left Spinner, Beatlemania Letter, 2X Right Spinner, Hold Bonus, 100K
Add A Ball will always be awarded as the first award after All My Loving or Beatlemania Multiball Starts
Add Time will always be awarded as the first award after a timed song starts
- Added adjustment "Taxman Qualifying Difficulty" (Default = HARD) Setting this to EASY means that a single jackpot
during All My Loving multiball and getting to level 3 on all other songs will qualify Taxman.
- System Change (Version 2.21): Added Custom Coin Door Editor - See below:
Added Custom Coin Door Editor.
- You can specify the UNITS PER PULSE for the base coin and the number of PULSES
generated by each coin switch (left, center, right, 4th, 5th, 6th). The
UNITS have a range of 1 to 10000 and PULSES have a range of 0 to 100. For
example the USA coin door has a UNIT of 25 and the left and right slots
generate 1 PULSE and the center slot (the DBV) generates four PULSES. The
coin mechanisms accept quarters and the DBV dollars. Therefore, the UNIT is
25 (for 25 cents) and the left and right generate 1 PULSE for a single quarter
and the center slot generates 4 PULSES for a dollar bill being four quarters.
- If Standard Adjustment "Game Pricing" is changed to a selection with different
UNITS PER PULSE than the active CUSTOM coin door, the custom coin door will
be reset to the factory default for that Game Pricing selection.

Quoted from PinMonk:

Why are her legs cartoons and her upper body real?

Quoted from PBMAN:

Budman. If I buy one you will be the first PM when I go to sell it.

Quoted from PBMAN:

Budman. Haven’t bought one yet. Just sold Munsters. Going to a local Arcade this week to put some more time on it.

Quoted from PBMAN:

Just sold Munsters.

Quoted from PBMAN:

Budman. Haven’t bought one yet. Just sold Munsters. Going to a local Arcade this week to put some more time on it.

Quoted from PBMAN:

Munsters is a very smooth shooter. Very simple code. Probably much more fun with the bottom playfield. If you don't know me yet I tend to flip Pins real quick if they don't wow me. I will probably own a Munsters again. Most likely a Premium.
PSW - Where did you get you Beatles from.

Quoted from Hawks:

I get my Beatles Gold this week...yay!!!

Quoted from cooked71:

Love to known what u think of it.

Quoted from extendo:

Hey, has the shaker motor been integrated into the game and if so how does one test to see if it is working.
Thanks

Quoted from Hawks:

I get my Beatles Gold this week...yay!!!

Quoted from cooked71:

Never thought I’d be considering swapping my Munsters Le order for a Beatles Gold, but here we are.

Quoted from cooked71:

Never thought I’d be considering swapping my Munsters Le order for a Beatles Gold, but here we are.

Quoted from Riffbear:

She'll love you yeah yeah yeah...

Quoted from PBMAN:

Munsters is a very smooth shooter. Very simple code. Probably much more fun with the bottom playfield. If you don't know me yet I tend to flip Pins real quick if they don't wow me. I will probably own a Munsters again. Most likely a Premium.
PSW - Where did you get you Beatles from.

Quoted from Hawks:

My Beatles has arrived and it’s gorgeous
Very pleased with it, huge flippin weekend a coming [quoted image]

Quoted from Hawks:

My Beatles has arrived and it’s gorgeous
Very pleased with it, huge flippin weekend a coming [quoted image]