And you believe them???

You do need to learn how to negotiate.

I know many pin owners and no one paid MAP on their Iron Maidens or Deadpoos

They are all kinda, sorta, **good** , you just have to be able to negotiate in a firm and manly fashion.

If they sense your weakness, you are going to pay full retail, and shipping too.

sorry, it has been made clear to me that sharing that info could prevent future deals.

I can tell you that I have called/ emailed JJ, Cointaker, Joe, Tilt, Fun, anmd a few others and gotten different prices (or add-ons) from every one of them on the same game.

Doesn't play there anymore either -- it's the identical link back to YT -- but like I said, might be a regional (U.S.) thing.

https://thebeatlesstore.com/pages/the-beatles-pinball-machines

Looks like you called the wrong 5 distos.

Your comment was false.

Really, did you by gotg nib and if so what did you pay?

This is great for used pins, buying a car, etc. Not so much for stern nib pins. They are in no rush and dont have to really wheel and deal. Many of the games are shipped directly from stern so they often do not have any money tied up or an incentive to give someone some deal because they were "manly" about it.

[Sigh]

This is what I'm talking about when I say you have to learn how to negotiate.

Because they don't have them in stock is EXACTLY why they they give manly buyers a deal.

Instead of getting defensive, **think** about who actually has the power when you call to negotiate the purchase of a product.

Got to hand it to Stern, they're always trying to come up with new ways to sell pinball machines. Keeps things interesting.

I've seen Iron Maiden Pros selling for just below $5100 NIB at a show, well below MAP, so it does happen.

I didn't see it posted.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/southwest/las-vegas-man-designs-beatles-themed-pinball-machine-1515681/

Thx for the link but the article is of course wrong.

Sorry for the language I'm overall a very positive person (related to this hobby) but: Kaminkow can't design shit!

He didn't design anything alone in the past (well despite pure gems like "BTTF") and as we all know the game is a retheme and the new functions are most likely Gomez doing, according to his statements.

The photos in that acticle are new!

You can see the gold trim with new artwork (gold edition?), the bottom of the playfield, that the Diamond Edition has a violet metallic (gold trim edition seems as well?) apron and that the vinyl disc has some cuts for lighting effects.

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So all Editions will propably stick with that greenish color seeing the new side art.

I kinda like it, but they're really overdoing it with the floarting heads everywhere,

BUT: Now with 2 Models revealed, I really beg the question where they will be noticably different other then by trim & decals.

BUT BUT: Kaminkow says in that interview it will be less then 10.000$. Does he possibly mean ALL Editions? If that's the case they won't need to be drastically different.

Very much looking forward to next week!

Simply Stunning

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They could call the game "Decap Attack!" also.

With the Gold Edition we have one pair of heads on the playfield, one on the apron, TWO on the artblades (left & right), TWO on the Backbox sides, and REALLY TWO AT ONCE Surrounding the "coin"door.

That a bit overkill, imho.

Btw. salesmen here still intendimg what we seeing with the diamond wedition plaque is not the diamond edition and the game will have a real coindoor?
I'm taking bets.

So, another way of using up the WWE trim?

I've indeed been stunned by the entire thing.

I think the color scheme on the cab is just hideous, and way too busy. To each their own. But if you zoom on the PF, there is a spectacular guest appearance!

I’d suspect that some of these will hit the secondary market with less than 600 plays as well.

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I like something like this (if we go with photorealistic)...

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That’s a great idea! Find 10 people willing to buy gold edition and band together and buy a lot of 10 pins. It might take awhile to find 10 people, but you’d eventually get there. Maybe advertise on Craigslist. Chances of winning each edition -

7/10 gold (70%)
2/10 platinum (20%)
1/10 diamond (10%)

Fortunately I don’t meet the qualification of wanting to buy a gold.

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Plus I’m turned off by the pricing which seems like a 100% money grab over what these pins should be selling for in a competitive market place. Stern is a Goliath. All in all I am not excited about this one in the least. Meanwhile I’m poppin for a Munsters.

I'm ready to take another bet:

When all 1964 Beatles are sold, Stern does a "Luci"... I mean "Seawitch" edition.
The Record will become a maelstrom.

MMW!!!

Why does everyone not want Stern to make some good money?

For every LOTRs there is a WOF.

For every AC/DC there is a WWE

For every Ironmaden there is a KISS

Stern has to make some money, or the next game that bombs could end them.

If Stern waited any longer to release The Beatles (they've had the license for 2 years), any remaining fans would be too old (or, let's face it, too dead) to buy it.

Im in my 40s and was told my whole life the Beatles were great. Can't stand them. Same with Bruce and Dillon. I thought the maiden title was a bad idea as well. The best thing they had was their mascot.

Give me a back to the future that's worthy to carry the name. Or nightmare on Elm street. Or south park. Or beavis and butthead. Or terminator 1 and 2 combined. Or Rambo.
Or stop charging 8 to 15k because of paying for trademark shit and make me a 4k machine with your own title perhaps named in a contest and start creating toys on a whole other level.

So why don't you buy Back to the Future, Nightmare on Elm Street, South Park, Terminator or Rambo... I mean Raven.
Only thing missing here is Beavis & Butthead and despite BttF all these games are at least descent!

At least grab the alt translite! Makes it better.

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Beatles is going to make WWE look like a best seller ...

I'm telling you guys, the Beatles are going to completely sell out

Today was the big distributor conference call, what’s the word? Full length songs or short clips?

I agree they will eventually sell out. The diamond and platinum will go fairly fast but the gold will sit on the market for a long time. Who knows you might be able to score a cheap gold after a year or two.

They discussed this article...and what to do with leftover games.

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I found another picture from Google engine.......what's this? A platinum edition??
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All together.......
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The amp speaker grills are cool. But otherwise, they should have saved some money and just called it Easter Egg Hunt.

Still does not appear they will have working coin slots.

Dare I say this but I rather like the gold one... Look forward to seeing the Advertised pricing who knows looks like it might be fun?

Agree!
Stern’s on a roll with artwork on the base model!

Come on Pinside, isn’t this when someone goes “all in” on one and starts a club thread..? anyone..!?? ..

I'm guessing this is an artist's rendering. No reason to take on the expense of a coin door with no slots. If that were the plan then just go with the home model with no coin door, at all.

I am a fan of the art! and a magnetic spinning disk seems like a winner! I do not understand why you would not pay 5-9K less and buy a seawitch! Are LCD that expensive? Turn off the sound and listen to beatles on vinyl while you play.

And this brings a down vote? Strange.

Except the door could still provide the necessary adjustments access... and be a way to comply with licensing limits while still allowing an easy path for owners to make their own choices... all with hardware that is readily available on the market already. Lots of reasons you could go that way....

Plus they can use all the stock unused WWE cabinets in storage.

I agree about the art.
I'm neutral on the spinning disk.
Music that's integrated with the game play software is amazing (better than just playing any track on vinyl).

In answer to your question: I won't buy a Seawitch for the same reason I don't buy 38 year old cars, no matter how good they were when they were new. I'm OK with others buying 38 year old cars and doing them up. But personally, I think that's a waste of money and time. And the car still won't drive as well as a new one. Sure I have to pay more money for the new one, but that's my answer. I have friends who love spending money (and lots of time) on old machines (pinball and cars) and doing them up and maintaining them (they generally need more maintenance than new machines). They get a kick out of it. Good for them. For me, I have a life with multiple demands on my time, and I choose to put my time in other ventures. Plus, I have a feeling Beatles will play a touch better than Seawitch. We'll find out soon enough.

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This will be the first bomb from the Beatles.
I don’t get it. Did Whoa Nellie really sell like gangbusters for Stern?

Nobody wants a $10,000 EM game.

Cabinets are the same as all the other games armor is added later...

I definitely prefer the backglass art on the pro, compared to Platinum and Diamond.

Yeah, agree. The gold armour trim looks better too in my opinion as it matches the gold colored speaker grills.

For the complete coulor art I'd give a 8 out a ten. The backglass is best on gold but I dont like gold trim and gold cabinet ...

$5,400, like everyone else in the know.

So is Joe K saying that these will all be selling below $10k? Read that somewhere.

Artwork looks really nice. The color schemes won't be to some peoples liking but it's a really nice looking game. I probably prefer the gold's BG the most so it looks like a win for people that only want to pay for a gold.

That was stern's MAP pricing for that game. I thought you got some sort of deal? That's literally what everyone paid.