You have to be careful in which way you aim an opto to avoid interfering light sources.

Does anyone have a coil count yet? That is all that really matters in the end.

This is going to be a fun game!

It's a good theme, good shots, good flow and good gimmicks.

But for me a $5k game.

We don't even know the prices yet bro. Let's relax for a minute.

Pretty sure that bit near the end of the video announcing the song name is straight from the Spike-style LCD.

Again, it's a hobby where a bunch of rich men made videos begging to buy a $16,000 toy.

Manufacturers have yet to find the ceiling of what people will actually pay.

I think if this turns out to be true, it's a huge game-changer on the perception and reception of this game, and you'd see PLENTY in Pinside collections and even on location.

There's really not much chance of this being true, though.

In the licensing contract.

I guess we'll find out November 6 and can adjust our outrage accordingly?

Tell me all the times in manufacturing history a company trying to create a collectable market has actually succeeded in creating a collectable market?

It almost never works that way.

Collectables become collectable. They don't start out that way.

Fireball home, spiderman home, etc. There's a world above zizzle but below arcade. Just not for $50k a pop.

This game looks amazing. Great job. I'm not sure what everyone is whining about. Has great art and a sweet retro vibe. There are only so many layouts you can do with 2 ramps, 3 pops and a kickout hole. I'm glad to be moving away from that and taking hints of the TNA success for this title. Bravo Stern!!

Remember, Joe said you are gonna want one to play and one to keep in the box as a collectors item.

Supreme

Supreme sold a couple hundred $10,000 pinball machines in 10 seconds with this model.

Next rhetorical question please.

If that's true it's good news, but I still can't see any operator buying whatever the Gold version is (2 steps down in features from this "diamond" version) for LE money.

And we can look at where the value of this game ends up in 20 years. That's the mark of a true collectable.

Speculators bought the Supreme machine to flip it. We want people to buy a pinball machine to play it. Big difference.

Why? We've seen plenty of Batman 66 games on location, and that one was a pro or Premium (depends on your outlook) for beyond LE money. The cheapest Batman is $8500!

Now you are moving the goal posts. Stern doesn't give a shit what these games sell for in 20 years, just if they sell now.

Like Supreme did.

SUPREME.

Don’t forget:
Will this look good next to my Porsche, Bulldog and 70” 4K TV?

With MUCH more on the playfield to interact with, and likely more entertaining video (even at the terrible "finish the game in 15 minutes" launch and first year). I'd take a Launch BM'66 over this ALL DAY. No need to even graph that.

I agree with you there.
I assume people will buy them. But buying upfront isn't what creates a collectable market.

$7500 for the basic model of an already old basic rethemed game is a game changer? I don't see it. $5k would do it, maybe $6k. For $7500 though why not buy a Stern premium that has a ton of more features?

Batman Premium is $7600 shipped NIB. Would take that any day over a $7500 stripped down Beatles gold.

Because it isn't the Beatles?

We still don't know what the Gold and Platinum versions look like. It could be like AC/DC pro's giant space-sucking Angus face and they punish Gold buyers by putting Yoko ono's giant scowling face where the spinning record is on the Diamond version.

Yeah, will see if that's enough.

Funny that is Election day.

Beatles is gonna kill in coin drop and getting players' attention. People will go to a location just to check it out and play it.

LOL good call

This is not a vault of Seawitch. This is a rehash using little added effort to make a game that is reskinned.

If this was for pinheads, they would have just made and exact replica of Seawitch. It would have sold a whole hell of a lot better than this thing will.

I do question if this release is all part of the marketing and they are going to surprise us with a sub 5k "gold edition" after the diamond and platinums sell out to the deep pockets crew.

So kinda like Spiderman Vault Edition then. Which was, quite clearly, a vault edition.

Clearly, Beatles proves that Stern considers re-releasing and updating classic designs is a viable option in the future.

Should make many people here happy! Please head over to my All You Need is Love thread for more discussion on these exciting possibilities!

No way.

This thing is going to sell out.

No one would pay $50,000 for a vault of Seawitch, but there are plenty of people who would pay that for a piece of Beatles merch that was centered on when they were a cute boyband.

The only thing Stern messed up on was not having coin mechs that only took real silver quarters, and rejected any clad ones.

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did they change main parts of the layout on SMVE? I was pretty sure just new art and identical layout, code, etc...

A vault is an updated version of an older game in the essentially same design.
Beatles is taking Seawitch and modifying it plus reskinned with new art.

I view those as quite different and the Beatles itteration just makes it appear lazy and sadly likely to change the feel from Seawitch quite a bit.

Putting Coleman products (tents and chairs IIRC) in Final Fantasy XV was about one of the most awesome and subtle pieces of marketing ever. It's never even mentioned in the game, but the logo is clear as day if you look around, and it actually fits the whole "surviving in the wildereness, mostly" vibe of the game. It makes sense.

Meanwhile, Cup Noodle had a WHOLE QUEST where one of the characters talked about how much he loved Cup Noodle, and going to find things to add to Cup Noodle to make Cup Noodle a delicious quick meal so WHY DON'T YOU LOVE CUP NOODLE TOO, NOCTIS?! >_<;;

As for this pin...um...I'll stick with Seawitch. It probably has deeper rules anyways, and won't cost me the price of a modded Tron.

It looks simple enough for a 70 year old Beatles fan to want to play it.

It's simple enough that a non-pinhead, 70 year old Beatles fan can service it.

A 70 year old Beatles fan that buys it will play it for a month and a few years later the person managing the estate sale will be here trying to sell it as a rare collectible. Only 1,964 made!

What does the license say about "public use, display or operation"?

You STFU. Farfalla is awesome. Unlike this.

Well, I asked one after I showed her the video; she said:

Why the hell would I want one of those?!?
I’m 70 years old!!!
I’m scared enough already at my age about robots trying to kill me in my sleep!!!

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If it wasn’t for Old Glory insurance...

That's why Texas banned them last week

Texas county. Not all of Texas. And it's just sexbots. Roombas are safe.

So here is what is new on the playfield, as far as I can see:
behind the 3 drops on the left there is a target that is revealed.
below those 3 drops there is a large standup target added
2 thin standups added at the 2 loop entrances
magnet added to the top of the loop
magnet and spinning disc added to main playfield
an extra spinner on the left of the pops
a 2-ball multiball

And all that on top of a Seawitch playfield... I think this will be a really fun game! It takes a classic layout and does add a bunch of good stuff to it.

As always, code is everything. Happy to see more single-level games out there.

Any robot is a sexbot if you are brave enough.

LMAO

Old women are not really known for buying pinball machines or jukeboxes.

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"Look at this topper I bought for my pinball machine, Mildred! I know, my husband (god rest his soul) use to say that 'nothing shits up a game more than putting crap on top of it', but I just love it....."
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Let’s hope they sell off their collections before moving to Florida. Or they’ll all be under water in 30 years.